Yeah, I absolutely don't see Holmgren as an alpha scorer. Definitely not now, maybe not ever. He's more of a glue guy who can potentially be a great 5 or a very nice 4. Don't see a volume scorer or a clutch scorer at this time.
Chet might be a Robin, too.
Yeah, I absolutely don't see Holmgren as an alpha scorer. Definitely not now, maybe not ever. He's more of a glue guy who can potentially be a great 5 or a very nice 4. Don't see a volume scorer or a clutch scorer at this time.
^neither was Timmy at 19. People might be forgetting Chet is just 19 doing advanced skills and at his size.
Spurs aren’t trading Dejounte bro![]()
Murray just needs to have a sprained knee or ankle or back and sit and cheer us on to a top 4 pick who will be his wingman for his career in SA.
They weren't going to trade him this year, and that ended up being a wise decision. I doubt they'd trade him next year either, but his accolades means there's a good chance they'll get an offer more inline with the value they place on him. That wasn't the case before this year
I agree.
Imagine getting a better haul for Murray than for Number Two.
These two are special
Davis gives off a little Brandon Roy vibe to me
Davis is unspectacular but I think his game will translate really well to the NBA.
He won’t throw down huge dunks or droop 7 threes but at the end of the game you’ll look up and see 15-25 points regularly with a ton of midrange shots, opportunistic drives, and a three pointer or so.
The narratives around midrange game are being exposed.
Being great in the midrange is an advantage right now in a league where everyone gives away midrange shots with ease.
Only a highlight video but there is some good content here.
John Butler (FSU) and Blake Wesley (ND) both having solid games.
Some nice Butler moments at 7:33 - 7:57 mark. Shows the drive with the left, the quick tip using his length, the defense on weak-side to get the block and then the spot up 3 in transition.
Be very surprised if some Spurs peoples didn't attend this game...
Patrick Baldwin shot getting so bad was not expected. I've read he's been playing through an injury, but his offense, which was his biggest selling point, has really taken a nose dive. Maybe that let's us get him with one of our later 1st round picks. Spurs can get his shot right. With his size and abilities, he could definitely be a difference maker once he finds his shot again. I'd love to get him at a discount pick. The intangibles are still there.
The kid draft mocks have him falling so fast that he has fallen to second round - Unless he gets a wink wink promise to get picked in first round he should definitely stay in college for another year
My guy Jabari been hoopin’ lately. He or Chet will go first. Think he gets the nod.
John Butler is an interesting player to keep following. Good find. FSU players typically play defense which is a good starting point. Definitely a candidate for one of our later FRP’s, if we keep it. I think this is where the draft will be crucial, in finding the gems because after the top 4 there is a wide variance at this point from what I can tell.
Agree completely. I expect 5 - 20+ will vary wildly from mock to mock. I hope the Spurs keep swinging for the fences like they have with Primo.
There seems to be a lot of good big wings that’ll be available in the 5-12 range. That has to be what the Spurs are looking for, preferably one 6’7 or above who can play the 4 spot next to Jakob and Keldon. Anything can happen but I am assuming Jabari, Chet, Ivey, Banchero will be the top 4 taken. After that you have the following 3/4s;
Keegan Murray
AJ Griffin
Shaedon Sharpe
Ben Mathurin
Tari Eason
Marjon Beauchamp
Kendall Brown
Jeremy Sochan
Keegan Murray is my preference followed by AJ Griffin.
Some additional thoughts I have. I think the Spurs would take Keegan Murray above AJ Griffin.
The Spurs are 26th in the league in defensive rebounding % this season. A big reason why is because of Keldon and McDermott at the 3/4 spots, one is a average to below-average rebounder (Keldon) and the other is a terrible rebounder (Doug).
I am not sure AJ Griffin can play much 4 spot in the NBA as a starter. I think he’s more of an out and out 3 like Keldon, if he plays 4 in the NBA he’ll be undersized, again like Keldon. Griffin seems to have a poor rebounding rate in college and looking at him physically he has a really long neck which means his standing reach won’t be that great for his height, which is already undersized for a 4. It partly explains the below averaging rebounding imo. Will be interesting to see his combine measurements. Rebounding is one of things that translates the most to the NBA. Keldon also was a so-so rebounder in college and that’s been the case in the NBA. I think Griffin has a much higher ceiling than Keldon but I can’t see the Spurs drafting Griffin and playing him alongside Keldon.
The Spurs really need someone can play the 4 without the team suffering rebounding wise and defensively. They also need the 4 to be a guy who can stretch the floor and be able to play some 3. Keegan Murray is perfect imo. He could even play some small ball 5 in short bursts.
Last edited by mystargtr34; 03-04-2022 at 03:59 AM.
I think the priority is a switch 1-4 lineup more than getting bigger. That is the way they are playing defensively. Of course getting that 4 guy that can switch to guards solves everything and I don't think that is Keegan, Smith is that guy with some lottery luck. Griffin and KJ is closer. Doug is an exceptionally poor rebounder getting an average rebounder at the 3 can easily solve our rebounding woes.
Wright like these late growth spurt guys though, Keegan is more late weight spurt guy. Is that a thing i don't know, but maybe he categorize him as a late bloomer and justifies taking a near 22 year old. AJ is just such a better prospect that combination of skills + youth is always a good indication of success plus being big for his position at 220. Prioritizing switchability over rim protection/rebounding and perimeter skills over inside scoring makes you a more deadly playoff team.
Last edited by rankingtear; 03-04-2022 at 06:25 AM.
Love this kids game. Was hoping the spurs would have a shot at him, but he seems to be playing too good for that.
It's all about the bounce of the ping pong balls.
agree, id love to see the guy from my country in my fav nba team
March Madness is going to have a big impact on a lot of these mock drafts it will be fun to watch who moves up and who moves down
Me too
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