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    Any info on Pacome Dadiets measurements? I’m intrigued by him, seems like he should be a lot higher on big boards/Mocks
    Only seeing height w shoes 6’9” - and weight 217 lbs atm.

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    He has potential but probably not enough for first round and more seasoned NBA ready will go before a project in late first or early second.

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    Another observation from the 2K simulation was that the Dillingham-Branham bench backcourt was a disaster defensively, exacerbated by a lack of size. Topic-Branham made more sense, because then you could have Branham guard the opposing team’s point guard and Topic the opposing team’s shooting guard.
    Branham-Anyone pair is a mistake.

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    think i want nikola durisic,Think he can be steal of the draft.

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    think i want nikola durisic,Think he can be steal of the draft.
    At #35 sure!

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    Risacher 6’8.5” without shoes

    wingspan is 6’9.5

    standing reach is 8’11

    195 pounds

    slight build but very good length for a 3. Barely a positive wingspan but considering he’s talk to begin with not a bad number anyway

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    Risacher 6’8.5” without shoes

    wingspan is 6’9.5

    standing reach is 8’11

    195 pounds
    Man, you just can't teach that kind of size and fluidity combination (fluidity when finishing). I wish we could snag this guy, but he gone before #4. Trading up would make a lot of sense.

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    wrong thread

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    Man, you just can't teach that kind of size and fluidity combination (fluidity when finishing). I wish we could snag this guy, but he gone before #4. Trading up would make a lot of sense.
    Makes a ton of sense to trade up, but only if they’re planning to trade for one of the big PGs.

    Garland, Vassell, Risacher, Sochan, Wemby would be awesome

    Otherwise stay the course. Try to figure out how to come away with one of these pairings:

    Castle + Shepard
    Castle + Matas
    Matas + Shepard

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    Man, you just can't teach that kind of size and fluidity combination (fluidity when finishing). I wish we could snag this guy, but he gone before #4. Trading up would make a lot of sense.
    It’s definitely not a great wingspan. It’s fine. But the height helps in that dept hence the standing reach

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    Risacher 6’8.5” without shoes

    wingspan is 6’9.5

    standing reach is 8’11

    195 pounds

    slight build but very good length for a 3. Barely a positive wingspan but considering he’s talk to begin with not a bad number anyway
    Almost identical measures to Matas Buzelis:
    height without shoes: 6'8.75"
    wingspan: 6'10"
    weight: 197 lb
    standing reach: 8'9.50"
    hand length / width: 8.50" / 9.25"

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    With 3 weeks left, I'm still going with Risacher/Castle/Buzelis at 4 and Dillingham/Sheppard at 8.

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    How did matas have more height n wingspan but lose standing reach?

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    One, if Wembanyama is starting to call the shots to play with his buddies, we have problems. This never ends well.
    LeGM becomes... Le GM

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    FWIW, I tried simulating the Spurs on 2K by adding a bunch of different prospects (Risacher, Castle, Dillingham, Topic, and Salaun) to the roster. Here are my observations:

    1. Risacher is such a good fit on this current roster.
    2. The rotations were more sensible when a PG like Dillingham or Topic was on the roster.
    3. Castle can start at the 3 between Vassell and Sochan.
    4. Backup 4 is a sneaky need for this team right now, unless you believe in Bassey.
    Just did the same thing and agree how 2k can be pretty insightful tbh. Just won Summer League with Castle + Dillingham and man what a fun duo.

    Also agree at the surprise realization that the 4 PF is basically barren. Especially if you play Sochan down at SF. Barlow, Mamu, Osman, you name it and out of position as they may be, nothing is good enough and the positional depth is super weak.

    Then you look back at the 2024 draft differently, okay is there anyone who could play some PF? You see not much there really except Salaun (Matas, Tyler Smith, De Silva? I looked), and these are not ideal at all and many probably flat won't work. Then you go to the FAs, Maybe Jalen Smith opts out of his $5.4? He's more of a C/PF and not good enough of a player. Maybe Precious Achiuwa? Not good enough of a player, too much of a project still, can't hit FTs lol. Looked at Cs like Jaxson Hayes and Bol Bol, lol awful options, no way. But these are what you have to choose from unless you do a trade.

    Then I looked at 2025 draft, lol. Getting desperate now. Not really any true PFs that catch my eye immediately. Maybe the French player, Noa Essegue? Too far off to say but perhaps an option. Who will play PF in SA? Been trying to solve this since small ball Keldon Johnson and Sochan helps but anyway you see the sudden sneaky need OOP is talking about for at least a backup 4, and jokingly as another member posted, maybe a starter caliber PF too lol.

    But looking at 2025, the guards are really brilliant. Traore at PG, Demin at PG, Tre Johnson at SG. When I ran that Castle Dilly it was almost too many PGs plus regular season you add Tre Jones(off books 2025). I love the Castle Dilly pairing and it, that is the best, most realistic pair you get with 4 + 8 barring changes. Tempted to just do that although I'm starting to get buyers remorse on Dilly after that sim. When he's good, he took over for stretches. With Castle on court too, the duo DESTROYED teams, it was beautiful to see. Almost would say don't get Dilly if you can't get Castle too lol they seem very complimentary at least in projection simulations.

    But when Dilly was bad, he was really bad. Castle gave you something pretty much every game, even when the shot wasn't falling but Dilly got exposed. And that's with the game juicing up Dilly way better than he'll be in real life (78 which he may be but I'd put him more at 76). Makes me think Dilly is kinda gimmicky but you'll have your Kyrie's and your Brunson's that hit so it's going to hurt if Dilly meets his ceiling if SA passes. I'll also say I bet Dilly does better on other certain teams than he'd do in SA. Like Spurs will pass, Dilly goes to DET (yes even with Cade, look again, it's a better fit than you'd think) or CHI or even UTH and he looks great but it's because the system allows him stuff Spurs system would try to change, affect, adjust or get him trying stuff outside his comfort zone. So there'll be a fallacy that SA slept and let gold slip when that may not be the case.

    So then I reenvision the whole roster build. Back to targeting two forwards in 2024? Trade up down or out? Go all in on Traore 2025 for the French duo Traore/Wemby?

    Target Risacher and bundle 4 + 8 but do it without trading any of the 2025 FRPs and then bundle every last pick you have for Traore next year and have the French big 3 Traore/Risacher/Wemby locked in. Would take a miracle lol but I hope SA has a plan. What happens if you get to 4 and Sarr, Risacher, Castle are gone and there's nothing left but shrimps and wimps? Even if you can just pull Castle at 4 would be huge at this point.

    Sorry for the long post thoughts hoping someone can follow all that just a blob I'm brain storming and kinda stuck on. Sorry for posting 2k sims as real life insight cliche too I know that's kinda sacrilege lol

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    regarding PF I thought that DaRon Holmes would be a very insteresting prospect.
    but now he has canceled all his work outs, so it's given that he has a 1st round promise. (rumor say it's the Nuggets), so no chance he will be there at #35.
    Spurs might hope that one out of the group of Klintman, das Silva, Filipowski, Tyler Smith falls to #35, I think there is a small chance this happens.
    on the other hand, the #35 pick might be better used on a shooter, say Antonio Reeves, or Scheierman, or Sandford.

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    PF. Well. Markennen only way

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    Also curious who gave the DaRon Holmes II first round promise, myself.

    DEN jumps out because they just got exposed on Gordon's inability to shoot from range with defenders sagging off just daring him to shoot. Holmes is the logical fix around that range.

    Could also be NYK to shore up Randle. I wonder if NOLA wants to shore up Zion in the same way. So the De Silva, Tyler Smith, Klintman types may be getting snacked up in that late first range.

    And I am secure on AJ Johnson with #35. Wonder if he'd go back to NBL on a stash but he could spend the year in Austin too and then backfill Tre Jones departure next year and serve as Wesley insurance.

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    Also curious who gave the DaRon Holmes II first round promise, myself.

    DEN jumps out because they just got exposed on Gordon's inability to shoot from range with defenders sagging off just daring him to shoot. Holmes is the logical fix around that range.

    Could also be NYK to shore up Randle. I wonder if NOLA wants to shore up Zion in the same way. So the De Silva, Tyler Smith, Klintman types may be getting snacked up in that late first range.

    And I am secure on AJ Johnson with #35. Wonder if he'd go back to NBL on a stash but he could spend the year in Austin too and then backfill Tre Jones departure next year and serve as Wesley insurance.
    in the big picture we should expect that both 2nd round picks might be stashed. (or traded). the roster is filled up anyway and there are some more 1st rounders coming in 2025. not that I wish they go that route, but I wouldn't be surprised and the reasons are obvious.

    there will be enough raw talent to place a bet on and watch them develop for two or three years. like Johnson, Dadiet, Djurisic, Ajinca, Chomche, Flowers.

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    Kinda hope they pick #35 this time as I like the chances of some dream fallers but you are correct the pattern has been to trade out from this similar range early second round now as a recent trend and they probably should with such a full roster.

    Like you were saying some interesting names to see who falls to #35 and wonder if SA has any targets they'd actually select if they tumbled far enough. Maybe Dunn and as you mentioned Da Silva though I think he goes mid first tbh. Love his player template though and would be a decent answer to the PF question as I think he can play up some from SF at 6'9.5 and a good shooter. Da Silva and KJ Simpson were doing most of the work while Cody Williams soaked all the acclaim, pretty crazy Williams gets mocked so highly; must be the name thing.

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    How did matas have more height n wingspan but lose standing reach?
    Same way Reed Shepard had the best vertical…

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    Spurs rarely lock-in on a player like that, this wouldn’t likely be a draft where they would, and I’m not sure Risacher is any better than Salaun or Cody Williams. I’ll grant your possible scenario where they really want Risacher, but I’m not buying Givoney’s BSPN click bait. He’s an analytics and talent evaluator guy, not an insider info guy, and he’s already been wrong about the extent of Topic’s injury by listening to his “sources”.
    I do'nt know why you guy keep comparing Risacher and Salaun. Zach is clearly more refined, natural and talented with a better court vision and BBIQ than Salaun who mostly relies and his motor and hustling.
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    If the Spurs are truly interest in appeasing Wemby, they’re drafting Salaun, not Risacher. Their families are already close, due to each daughter playing basketball together. He’s also had positive comments about Tidjane. Zacharrie is a guy he knows a bit.
    Yeah, their famileis know each others and he spent a bit of time with him, lifting weight and stuff, but they're not close friends.

    Then Wemby on Risacher:

    "I probably don't know anyone more talented than him in this draft. He can do about anything. In Europe, few players can go from youth to pro programs, he did it and he's dominating. I'm proud of him".

    I realy don't believe Wemby's familiarity with french guys in this draft is a factor at all. He not close with them like with Bilal for example.
    Last edited by JPB; 06-07-2024 at 06:03 AM.

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    There’s heaps of variables with height vs wingspan vs standing reach. Some guys like Topic who have long necks and big heads are going to have shorter relative standing reaches compared to alien looking guys with high shoulders, short necks and small heads.

    Risacher has a shortish wingspan because he has really narrow shoulders and only slightly above average length arms. But he has high shoulders and a short neck and small head so his standing reach is relatively high.

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    I think the play offs showed kind of a come back of defense and last nights game wasn't an exception.
    the C's are dominating without an outstanding performance on offense, because they have no weak link on defense.
    that's why I don't share the oppinion you can afford to play with a liability on defense because you have a plus defender in Wemby behind him.
    the moment you start sending double teams to help out your weak link is the moment the defense cracks.
    the C's don't need to worry about this, beacause they have 5 players out there, who can handle the job on defense.

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