I never said it was a given. His intel with the Lakers is much more likely to be on point, but he has some access league-wide. If you have seen his stuff over the years you know he is not your average blow hard.
My hope for the draft #4) A. Risacher or B. Buzelis #8 A. Castle or B. Carter. Would be ecstatic if we ended up with Risacher and Castle, but any of those scenarios where we get one of those wings with the 4th and the guard with the 8th I would be happy with.
if atlanta wants clingan it makes a trade for number 1 more likely if clingan lasts to 4. also makes the spurs able to trade out easier.
I doubt Atlanta takes the PR hit of trading out of the 1. Fans don't like that . They'll just take who they want to take.
Hope we can get Boogie Ellis and Wooga Poplar.
Most sports media do this, float their trade ideas and pass them off as rumors. It’s a dumb take since they mortgaged their future to get Dejounte. If they blow it up they’re gifting top picks to San Antonio.
Even if he doesn't become a star, if he hits on his archetype Risacher will have a lot of value. Think of Trey Murphy, Herb Jones, Cam Johnson, Mikal Bridges, those guys are not only productive, but also widely valued across the league, so even if he never develops the ability to create off the dribble, he'll be a coveted asset that headlines the package for a true superstar.
I found this discussion about how the Pistons might be approaching this offseason very interesting. Sharing:
https://www.freep.com/story/sports/n...y/74062080007/
Some notes:
- fans love Reed there and see him as perfect fit next to Cade
- new GM is not a fan of Ignite guys, which throws some cold water on link to Buz
- asset ac ulation should be name of game and trading down may be smart
- renting capspace possibility for assets, and they foresee consolidation trades of current guys around the corner
- Clinton would be at play at 5; apparently fans are super low on Duren
Implications for us?
- would they trade up to 4 to get Reed?
- would they trade back to 8 at right price?
- are any of their young pieces available?
- Buz could be there at 8
Detroit should definitely rent out cap space. A player like Levine is a massive albatross for Chicago. They could use a guy who can just run around and score, plus can get assets to take him.
And trading down in the draft seems wise. I'd ring the bell for any diners wanting Clingan and take the best package. I hadn't thought of them as a team to jump to in order to get a Castle if, say, the 4 is Risacher.
Yes, Pistons fans really aren't big Duren fans. Apparently his defense is totally awful.
Vecenie did a podcast today where we traded with DET for 5. Trade was 8 and the better of SAS and ATL’s 2027 picks (top-7 protected) for 5. He had Rissacher falling to us at 4. We then took Castle at 5.
I don’t love Castle, so I think the proposed trade is an overpay (I’d do lottery protected, maybe). But he does his pod with a dude from Detroit, so that’s a somewhat interesting coincidence.
Possibly one of the only scenarios where I'd consider moving up from 8, but certainly not at that price.
Man these are some ugly ass draft day caps. NBA definitely went with one of their lower tier designs for a lower tier draft.
They said "that's all you deserve".
"Do you want to keep these?"Man these are some ugly ass draft day caps. NBA definitely went with one of their lower tier designs for a lower tier draft.
"No, that's okay."
“The kids in third world countries didn’t even want these… it, let’s use ‘em for the 2024 NBA Draft presented by State Farm”
Vecnie on his pod today pretty much sums up my thoughts on the Pistons "With Langdon, we have no idea what they're doing" which is true, we really haven't heard what his vision, or his thoughts on the team etc.
at least to be fair I haven't seen that.
nah Simmons is connected, hes predicted a lot of stuff thats come true.
if he references "what im hearing" its never something he makes up.
You may not like Simmons, which whatever, but hes got solid sources, as does Russillo
yeah id be shocked if Risacher falls to 4, however I can 100% see the Wizards taking Clingan. they've been pretty much signaling they want center BADLY for a long time.
To the point where there was legit ideas if the Spurs won the lottery, of flipping that to them for Avdija
Vecenie in his latest mock does this:
Sarr
Clingan
Reed
And then with his guest they wind up hashing out a trade with Detroit, moving up from 8. They wind up trading the best of the ATL/SAS picks on 2027 protected 1-7. Not sure what capital it would require but okay.
Risacher
Castle
So they have Risacher slipping past Washington, which makes tons of sense to me. And they have the Spurs aggressive to get Castle by moving up from 8.
If castle and Reed somehow end up on the Spurs this draft is a huge success
It just occurred to me that the Hawks could be floating the rumors of them being interested in Clingan to drive up the price of potential trades.
It amazes me how much variance there is in the opinions on some of these prospects.
Some say Castle has no star potential. Others say he has superstar potential. Some say Risacher is destined to be a career role player. Others say he's one of only two players in this draft with likely star potential. Some say Salaun has the highest upside in this draft. Others say he's a guaranteed bust. Etc.
And all these proclamations are made so confidently, with such remarkable self-assurance, as if the person writing them could determine the entire career trajectory of these players just because they happened to read a few articles and watch a YouTube video about them.
I think this is what makes this draft a lot of fun! It would be a lot more fun if getting it right weren't so critical for us
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