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    I was trying to tell you that b4. None of the guys who will be FA this summer will get you back anything better than what you have.
    Indeed, if the draft is as guard-rich as touted, Mills' value might actually decline between now and the draft.

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    Marcus Thornton to be waived via woj

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    Dammit ya'll... Mills stops thinking and starts playing when the Playoffs start.
    That man is a playoff performer and this team needs more like him, not less with some of the weak spines here.

    Mills does not get traded. If he leaves... he leaves.


    He will prove his worth to the team in these playoffs, in the end.

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    I can see that - especially out East, you are getting the sense (ATL move, WAS move, BOS rumors) that playoff teams are dying to add to their teams. Many of the best bench options are gone like you said. However, there is still plenty out there and teams seem to be valuing picks a lot so I think it would still be tough. Eating money is one way to do it though (see BKY).

    You're deal would basically be like BKY's deal and how they netted a pick.

    But DEN still has many guys they seemingly will deal; plenty of options still.
    I actually wouldn't mind having Marco back, either. His contract expires in 2018 when the Spurs actually need space, and he's familiar with the system already. Dunno if I'd be willing to have Roberts and Murray duke it out for real minutes so late in the season, though.

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    Man, if someone at the spurs organization can motivate Thornton to not be fat and lazy, I'd take him pver forbes in a heartbeat!

    We need more overconfident dudes who isnt afraid to take shots and make moves in very limited minutes. Thronton does that. Forbes os scared pf the ball.

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    Even though I probably agree, the only reason I would like getting a first for Mills is so SA doesn't have to pay him next year and maybe that cracks the door for Murray to be force fed minutes and who knows what happens with that.

    But Mills has value to the Spurs for sure and SA is probably better off keeping him even if he's going to walk next year.
    I don't think this team can afford to lose Mills with Ginobili retiring and Parker needing to retire, and that's factoring in a breakout year from Dejounte.

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    I actually wouldn't mind having Marco back, either. His contract expires in 2018 when the Spurs actually need space, and he's familiar with the system already. Dunno if I'd be willing to have Roberts and Murray duke it out for real minutes so late in the season, though.
    For sure - taking on salary now knowing that Gasol is 99% opting in and TP still on the books is no big deal as long as it does not extend past next season. Like you said, added Bonus is Beli knows SA very well and does what Mills does basically (both good and bad) while getting SA a pick.

    But with Mills only having this half season left, I don't see a team giving up a first for that.

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    I don't think this team can afford to lose Mills with Ginobili retiring and Parker needing to retire, and that's factoring in a breakout year from Dejounte.
    Don't let M4T see this.

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    I don't think this team can afford to lose Mills with Ginobili retiring and Parker needing to retire, and that's factoring in a breakout year from Dejounte.
    If you don't think Mills is a starter you can't pay him what he will command.

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    Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine

    Andre Drummond is beloved by Pistons ownership, but Detroit is unexpectedly fielding offers on Drummond and KCP --> espn.com/nba/story/_/id…


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    For sure - taking on salary now knowing that Gasol is 99% opting in and TP still on the books is no big deal as long as it does not extend past next season. Like you said, added Bonus is Beli knows SA very well and does what Mills does basically (both good and bad) while getting SA a pick.

    But with Mills only having this half season left, I don't see a team giving up a first for that.
    It would probably have to be a team more desperate for cap space. Dunno if there are that many this season. Imagine there will be a lot in 2018, but the Spurs will likely be among them.

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    If you don't think Mills is a starter you can't pay him what he will command.
    He's basically Gary Neal with a higher shooting percentage. He can't run the offense to save his life and his defense is woefully pathetic but, the Spurs can't afford to lose him.

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    if you want the spurs to contend this season then the spurs can't afford to trade mills for a draft pick.

    mills has the 4th best 3 point shooting percentage in the league. next on that list is manu at 21st.

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    Regardless of what any of us think I do believe retaining Mills is a priority for SA. Whether we agree with that or not is another topic.

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    Dammit ya'll... Mills stops thinking and starts playing when the Playoffs start.
    That man is a playoff performer and this team needs more like him, not less with some of the weak spines here.

    Mills does not get traded. If he leaves... he leaves.


    He will prove his worth to the team in these playoffs, in the end.
    Dabom, get out of that body.

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    if you want the spurs to contend this season then the spurs can't afford to trade mills for a draft pick.

    mills has the 4th best 3 point shooting percentage in the league. next on that list is manu at 21st.
    So Danny Green's three point shooting percentage has gone down the ter with all those airballs he's been chucking up?

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    So Danny Green's three point shooting percentage has gone down the ter with all those airballs he's been chucking up?
    Nah, it's still at like 41 percent. But obviously, you hope for another boom period to start soon.

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    I actually wouldn't mind having Marco back, either. His contract expires in 2018 when the Spurs actually need space, and he's familiar with the system already. Dunno if I'd be willing to have Roberts and Murray duke it out for real minutes so late in the season, though.
    Can consider it a sunk cost but this would amount to Charlotte trading two firsts for Mills as they already dealt one for Beli (Kings actually made a good trade). With Kemba on the roster not sure why they'd be falling over themselves to offer Mills a big deal.

    That said, as some have mentioned, there is a lot less money to go around in FA this year and more guys will sign with original teams = value of Bird Rights for guys like Mills (rights stay with player when traded).

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    Dabom, get out of that body.


    Hey... I just feel that way, baby.

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    Dabom, get out of that body.


    Hey... I just feel that way, baby.

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    The thing is as great of a teammate as Mills has been teams have to know he has a desire to start. So if you trade for him you have to have that in mind. From everything I've read GMs around the league value Mills pretty damn high.

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    Dabom, get out of that body.


    Hey... I just feel that way, baby.

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    I'd do whatever it takes to get KCP on this team....

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    I'd do whatever it takes to get KCP on this team....
    That's because you're a try hard dumbass.

    Anyways,

    KCP is an expiring next year. PATFO isnt going to dish out money on an unproven player in a spurs structure.

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    I'd do whatever it takes to get KCP on this team....
    Why? He is not much of a shooter.

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