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    Keeping Tony Parker is a ing waste. Did your source tell you why they would keep him over Pau? Not that Pau was a difference maker mind you. I heard from my source that Pau's contract had some stipulations that would make it unlikely he would be moved. However, Green's name came up as a likely piece to get moved.

    Tbh they said stash pick and Green will be a casualty...I just assumed Pau is getting moved and that Parker would be staying.

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    Tbh they said stash pick and Green will be a casualty...I just assumed Pau is getting moved and that Parker would be staying.
    Sweet! There's still hope then. I heard the Spurs are working out Free Agents over the next few days. That came as a surprise because I didn't think teams could talk to FA's. Well, while that is true in terms of negotiations or recruiting, teams are able to have them work-out for them.

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    I can see them stashing, though I know it may break Manu4tres heart. I haven't been into the draft prospects this offseason much bc I am skeptical about Spurs drafting someone they will play next season myself. The pick is at risk to be stashed (or even traded, gasp! in a salary dump). They could use a center, however Milutinov has progressed and they owe him a deal.

    I can see Danny getting traded, specially if the want to pay JSimms. The rumors about Hanga picked up steam too.

    They would still need to trade someone else. Maybe LMA?
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    Sweet! There's still hope then. I heard the Spurs are working out Free Agents over the next few days. That came as a surprise because I didn't think teams could talk to FA's. Well, while that is true in terms of negotiations or recruiting, teams are able to have them work-out for them.
    That's how they discovered JSimms. They work out dleague, undrafted, nobody under contract. Helps to fill out the summer league roster too.

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    Why exactly do the Spurs owe Milutinov a contract?

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    That's how they discovered JSimms. They work out dleague, undrafted, nobody under contract. Helps to fill out the summer league roster too.
    Its not just those type of folks, I heard Ne Ne is in town too, as well as some other NBA'ers that just finished their contracts.

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    FWIW, both SA Express-News beat writers Mike Monroe and Jeff McDonald believe the Chris Paul-to-the-Spurs discussion is smokescreen and nothing more.
    I'm waiting for the Tspence/Don Harris cage match.

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    Milutinov is a first round pick. Similar to the Livio situation... I have no desire to go in depth about it bcut was a super long discussion last summer. Though he's still under contract in Europe and likely to join the team in 2018...
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    Its not just those type of folks, I heard Ne Ne is in town too, as well as some other NBA'ers that just finished their contracts.
    Interesting. I suppose as long as the player is a FA is up to their ego if the want to work out for a team in the summer.

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    Spurs will stash their pick..

    Green/Pau will be causality...

    Parker will come back to be back up while Murray holds down the fort...

    I don't agree with the possible move..I'd rather lose Parker but just going off what my source told me..

    Obviously will know more come draft night..you can call me a liar if the Spurs don't trade/or stash pick in the deepest draft in a decade

    In this scenario, who would be the starter at the 2? Would we keep Simmons? Bc if we do actually let Danny go, Simmons becomes a HUGE priority to keep.

    Also, who slides in at the 4 if LMA plays the 5? Do we sign a cheap big or do we slide in Kyle?

    Do we bbring over Militinov to play the 5 with LMA at the 4? Lots of other decisions/moves would need to happen if we move Danny, but finding a serviceable 3&D guard would be a huge priority unless they think that guy can be Simmons
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    A state income tax in Texas would signal death for dem Spurs.

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    This article takes a pretty good look at the reality of what would have to happen for the Spurs to sign Paul this year. I know it's BleacherReport, and I'm sure people will bash the author. But some of the facts are just facts. And you have to admit - it wouldn't be the first time a player has used the Spurs as leverage for a contract:

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...e-agency-noise

    I did get a kick out of the picture in the article. It's funny to me how many highlight films and pictures show the player doing something blatantly illegal, but still seem to be praising them for it. This was a nice arm-bar by Paul, trying to defend Kawhi.


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    Interesting. I suppose as long as the player is a FA is up to their ego if the want to work out for a team in the summer.
    You were right - mostly D-Leaguers. NeNe wasn't there after all.

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    This article takes a pretty good look at the reality of what would have to happen for the Spurs to sign Paul this year. I know it's BleacherReport, and I'm sure people will bash the author. But some of the facts are just facts. And you have to admit - it wouldn't be the first time a player has used the Spurs as leverage for a contract:

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...e-agency-noise

    I did get a kick out of the picture in the article. It's funny to me how many highlight films and pictures show the player doing something blatantly illegal, but still seem to be praising them for it. This was a nice arm-bar by Paul, trying to defend Kawhi.

    Yes. It makes perfect sense this is all about leverage.

    From the Spurs I agree they don't do draconian but a team that was close this season may be worse bc Manu is 40. At this age every year hits differently. I think much as I like him it's time for Manu. His efficiency is the least of his career etc. Anyways, there's a lot that can be said about it but that is not this thread. Tony 's injury is bound to take a toll as well. And as the article noted Gasol's production declined in the playoffs and he's also old. Danny has stalled in his development at best and he can't compensate for others declining.


    Some of the team's FA may still find themselves elsewhere or Spurs massively overpaying for roleplayers in the long run. I think the team's upside lies in their young players and they would be in the team with this overhaul or without it so I really don't care which way it goes but it's uphill and unlikely.

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    Some of the team's FA may still find themselves elsewhere or Spurs massively overpaying for roleplayers in the long run.

    Two 3 1/2 foot tall guys don't add up to one 7-footer. And three 8 point a night guys don't add up to one 24 ppg player. Overpaying for role players is the freeway to disaster. You have to surround the core with the right role players, but it's the core that wins in the playoffs. I'm sure the Spurs' FO knows that. I hope they remember it.
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    Yep. I'd rather forget about Mills, Simmons and all those guys if they're going to cost 12-17 million. I'd rather spend a bit more and get a better player. If not CP3, Hayward or someone like that would be OK too.

    Don't overpay for role players, don't even pay them market value. It'll screw the team for years and Kawhi will leave. He should have a Championship level team around him. He helped get Tim his 5th, and he's worked his ass off to become a great player (could possibly still improve even more), so I think the Spurs really owe it to him to get the best team around him to legitimately compete for a Championship. And when I say compete, I don't mean we have to have a super team that is the favourites in a series against the Warriors, but a team that has a 30-40% chance if things go well is good enough for me.

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    Top FA considers joining the Spurs not only because of Kawhi but specially because of Pops. How long is he still staying? He is not getting any younger. I think every chance to get a Superteam the Spurs should pursue. It doesn't happen to the Spurs everyday. Not until LMA signing was the Spurs a destination of FA at their prime. I want to think that the Spurs are quietly working on it. We get CP3, LeBron playing with Kawhi and Aldridge plus development of Murray, that's a Dynasty. Maybe will finally get a back-to-back or three-peat that long eluded the Spurs.

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    Hope Duncan joins the Spurs meeting with CP3. Wake Forest connection.

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    Wouldn't the main advantage of bringing in CP3 is to get LMA better involved? I simply can't see us trade LMA to bring in the guy he would benefit the most off. Trading Parker won't happen, so it's Green and Gasol. Which could actually happen. 76ers could actually use Green and I see they would even give some value back, just like Washington. Gasol on the other hand is a more difficult story, IMHO.

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    If/when this happens, CP3 re-signs with the Clips immediately tbh.


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    Won't happen. What can the Clipps offer? A bag of chips and some mid 20 draftpicks? Won't cut it.

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    Won't happen. What can the Clipps offer? A bag of chips and some mid 20 draftpicks? Won't cut it.
    same as us smh

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    The sign and trade would be with a clipper not Paul George. Sign and trade cp3, Blake or Red and then trade him for pg13

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    Won't happen. What can the Clipps offer? A bag of chips and some mid 20 draftpicks? Won't cut it.
    Clippers can't even trade a future first until 2021.

    They have no second rounders either in 2017 or 2018.

    They have no one stashed.

    Only young players like Brice Johnson had injuries. No young players stashed overseas.

    They have a bunch of trash contracts like Crawford and Rivers.

    They have nothing to offer really.

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    Clippers can't even trade a future first until 2021.

    They have no second rounders either in 2017 or 2018.

    They have no one stashed.

    Only young players like Brice Johnson had injuries. No young players stashed overseas.

    They have a bunch of trash contracts like Crawford and Rivers.

    They have nothing to offer really.
    The idea is that they would sign and trade Blake or red for George

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