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    Your le under your name "dangerous floater" used to be Tony. Now it's just "stinky brown floater"
    the gloss was overdetermined from the very beginning, I'm surprised it took so long for anyone to go there.

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    People show more outrage at a picture than children and toddler abuse. ing gots for real.

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    People show more outrage at a picture than children and toddler abuse. ing gots for real.
    The US and entire "civilized" world is full of freak show customers who just want to get a peek through squinted eyes and turned head at the baby carnage in specific instances. Then they pretend to be outraged by it.

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    pretending to be outraged isn't the only viable emotional reaction. I see what you mean, but this time even the hypocrites are right.

    dangling children to compel a plea bargain has a Satanic feel to me, what do you think?

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    The US and entire "civilized" world is full of freak show customers who just want to get a peek through squinted eyes and turned head at the baby carnage in specific instances. Then they pretend to be outraged by it.
    WTF does that have to do with what I said?

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    WTF does that have to do with what I said?
    I didn't read your post.

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    Here's a current story how Spain's Franco dictator also separated children to punish the leftist parents and give babies to non-leftists people

    Obstetrician's trial could unlock secrets of Spain's stolen babies scandal

    http://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-s...s=mcnewsletter



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    1,000 Detainees Just Got Sent To A Prison That Staffers Consider Unsafe

    Disease outbreaks and a lack of medical personnel await those imprisoned in Victorville, California.

    poor medical conditions in the prison in the Mojave Desert complex will endanger detainees, as well as the inmates and staff who are already at risk.

    t initial medical screenings of the detainees were rushed and that comprehensive checkups for all the detainees will not be completed within the two-week period that’s standard procedure. They say so far this has resulted in an outbreak of scabies and a
    case of chicken pox among the detainees, as well as the potential for more widespread infectious disease.

    the Justice Department had previously identified inadequate medical staffing as a key issue across the Bureau of Prisons in a
    2016 inspector general’s report.

    Staffers held a protest outside the prison last week over the arrival of the detainees, holding signsthat said, “Budget cuts will result in death!”

    “Our medical department, as well as some others, are in absolute need of staff and have been for some time,”

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...gEmail__062518



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    USA Empire's "meddling" in the Northern Triangle now receiving blowback with a humanitarian crisis of USA's own making, and Trash/JeBo/Miller's worsening

    At the U.S.-Mexico border, immigrant mothers seeking asylum prepare for whatever may come

    No longer would the U.S. grant asylum to most victims of gang violence or the domestic violence that Pojoy was fleeing.

    “It’s almost certain they will deport you,” an immigration attorney told her. “You have to really think about this before turning yourself in.”

    “I can’t stay here; I can’t return,” she responded. “I’ve come so far. I’m going to chance it.”

    At dozens of temporary shelters lining the U.S.-Mexico border in Tijuana, hundreds of asylum seekers fleeing violence of all sorts are making calculations before turning themselves in at the San Ysidro Port of Entry.

    Across the Southwest border, they have had to weigh the risks of a “zero tolerance” policy for illegally crossing into the U.S., the threat of being separated from their children and a ruling that shuts out many asylum seekers knocking on America’s door.

    For many, the terrors back in their homelands — in Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador — supersede the tribulations especially engineered for them by the U.S. government.

    Most believe this is their last chance as the Trump administration methodically rolls back nearly every avenue of immigration relief.

    “If we return, I’ll be killed for sure,”

    said a Salvadoran immigrant named Carmen, who was fleeing the 18th Street gang in her neighborhood.


    http://www.latimes.com/local/califor...349cc-80115881


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    Trump Lies And Claims Pictures From His Child Prisons That He Released Came From Obama

    Trump falsely claimed that all of the pictures that his own administration has released really came from 2014 and Obama.

    Trump said, “We want children staying the law has been this law for a long period of time.

    You would understand this better than most because of the great job you do in your country.

    No. It was — there was a false story, fake news in the

    “New just the opposite.

    I wanted to sign that.

    In fact, I was saying yesterday before I read this phony story in the “New York Times” that I was very, very happy that I signed that.

    And it also — it shows, we’re all talking about humanity, whether it is what you are doing in Jordan or what we are doing here, the laws are obsolete.

    Laws are horrible having to do with the border, both in terms of security and in terms of taking care of people.

    President Obama had a big problem.

    In fact, a lot of the pictures used they thought would be I guess — I don’t know what you folks did.

    You used pictures from 2014.

    They were all taken during the Obama administration.

    But the Bush administration had the same — it is the same laws.

    They’re a disaster. Laws have to be changed.

    And whether it is North Korea or whether it is so many different things like trade,

    we’re taking care of a lot of problems that should have been taken care of over the years.

    Well, one of the highest on the list is immigration.”

    https://www.politicususa.com/2018/06/25/trump-lies-and-claims-pictures-from-his-child-prisons-that-he-released-came-from-obama.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&u tm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politic us+USA+%29

    Trash is one very sick mother er



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    We don't share a border with Asia.
    Chris has never heard of air travel.

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    few extra - ok - if you say so. Even with a few extra, wonder what 3 times what 9K per classroom that could be going to transportation, health, or God forbid, your own (I don't mean you personally) children would do. I'm very happy with my property taxes - are you?
    so you don't know. You're just fraidy guessing. Figured.

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    Please Bookmark This Post. Seriously.

    Sarah Sanders just again complained that Democrats support “open borders and rampant crime” that she claims comes with “open borders.”

    These are straight up lies, so blatant and frequently repeated

    that I thought it was important to provide links here which can allow anyone who is willing to state and repeat the actual facts again and again and again.

    First, in 2013 the Senate passed the Border Security, Economic Opportunity, and Immigration Modernization Act,

    the most recent iteration of so-called ‘comprehensive immigration reform.’

    The bill was a mix of things both parties wanted, substantial funding for border security along with a path to citizenship for undo ented immigrants already in the country, etc. Here’s the actual text of the bill.

    The bill had critics on the right and left.

    But it included a huge amount of money and laws for border security and efforts to prevent illegal immigration.

    It is demonstrably not an ‘open borders’ bill.

    All 52 Democratic Senators voted for it as did the two independents who caucus with the Democrats.

    This is the clearest, most concrete and dispositive evidence that this repeated claim by Trump, Sanders et al. is a provable lie.


    Second, “rampant crime.”

    The through line connecting all of

    President Trump’s rants about immigration policy is that immigration is a security issue,

    that there is a clear connection between the scale of immigration and crime.

    This is false.


    All credible studies, approaching the question from a variety of angles, find that immigrants – legal and not – commit crime at a dramatically lower rate than native born Americans.

    The scale is striking, ranging from 50% the rate of the native born to as low as 20%.

    Here are studies from

    The National Academy of Sciences,

    National Bureau of Economic Research,

    CATO.

    Here’s an overview of research from the Times.

    The evidence is consistent and overwhelming.

    Immigrants commit crime at dramatically lower rates than the native born.

    And large influxes of immigrants actually appears to bring the crime rate down in areas of high concentration.

    Immigration does not drive up crime rates at all.

    The entire premise of Trump’s immigration arguments are based on a demonstrable lie.

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog...+%28TPMNews%29

    Border Security, Economic Opportunity, and Immigration Modernization Act of 2013


    The bill was not considered by United States House of Representatives and died in the 113th Congress.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_Security,_Economic_Opportunity,_and_Immigra tion_Modernization_Act_of_2013

    Also, Repugs in the Gang of 8 wrote and voted for it.

    Boner refused to bring it to a vote, yet again,

    Repugs BLOCKED immigration reform

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    Folding, YET again.

    Border patrol decides to stop referring migrants for prosecution ‘until Congress can find a lasting solution’

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/06/bor...ting-solution/
    Last edited by boutons_deux; 06-25-2018 at 08:17 PM.

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    Nielsen going in hard, scapegoating Dreamers

    "Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen claimed that tens of thousands of Dreamers "have been released into the country owing to loopholes in our laws" and

    argued that our government should shut down DACA

    to "project a message" discouraging immigration.
    "

    ... from an email. also seen on the deplorable Moonie Times

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    I didn't read your post.
    You see emojis, you cant read them.

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    Nielsen going in hard, scapegoating Dreamers

    "Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen claimed that tens of thousands of Dreamers "have been released into the country owing to loopholes in our laws" and

    argued that our government should shut down DACA

    to "project a message" discouraging immigration.
    "

    ... from an email. also seen on the deplorable Moonie Times
    what about the 2.3 million dreamers waiting to have a mom and dad that are legal USA citizens

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    ^Pretty sure that's Israeli. Mexico never built anything that sturdy.

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    HHS Secretary Makes It Clear That Children Are Still Being Held Hostage for Trump's Wall

    The president is not surrendering.

    Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar has made it clear: Trump is not surrendering his hostages.

    he told the lawmakers that if they wanted kids returned to their families,

    it would have to come as part of legislation.

    Otherwise, Trump will continue to have families held, children will continue to be separated, and

    no one is getting a kid back unless they’re on the way out of the country.

    “I cannot reunite them, though, while the parents are in custody because of the court order that doesn’t allow the kids to be with their parents for more than 20 days,” he said.

    “We need Congress to fix that.”

    Trump’s executive order didn’t end, or even seriously effect family separations. Though it did do an excellent job of collecting headlines informing the nation that Trump had “solved” this problem.

    If Azar is correct, then some children have actually been deported, even as one or both of their parents remains in US custody.

    https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/hhs-secretary-makes-it-clear-children-are-still-being-held-hostage-trumps-wall

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    Some kids already have to appear in immigration court alone. Trump is now making a bad problem worse

    What happens when the federal government forcibly separates young migrant children and teens from parents at the border due to a barbaric “zero tolerance” policy?

    You get children, some barely old enough for kindergarten,
    facing a judge by themselves in immigration court:

    “In some cases, children as young as 5 will be in front of an immigration judge,

    expected to explain why they should not be deported and manage the legal process that is required to prove that,”

    said Kate Lincoln-Goldfinch, an immigration lawyer who has been interviewing migrant women.


    It’s a fact that when immigrants have legal representation,

    they are more likely to be able to stay in the U.S.

    But unlike the criminal court system,

    the law does not guarantee representation to immigrants in immigration court, including the most vulnerable.

    According to data from the Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse (TRAC) at Syracuse University,

    last year only 33 percent of unaccompanied kids had representation.


    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...-problem-worse

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    ICE hacked its algorithmic risk-assessment tool so it recommended detention for everyone

    ICE hacked the risk-assessment tool it used to decide whom to imprison so that it recommended that everyone should be detained.

    This gave ICE a kind of empirical facewash for its racist and inhumane policies:

    they could claim that the computer forced them to imprison people by identifying them as high-risk.

    The policy let ICE triple its detention rate, imprisoning 43,000 people.

    The risk assessment software requires the ICE agent to ask the immigrant up to 178 questions and the assessment must be reviewed twice, which the DHS claimed can “add several hours to alien intake processing.”

    https://boingboing.net/2018/06/26/software-formalities.html



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    'Where are the girls?' DHS chief shrugs, can't say where migrant girls and toddlers are held

    Nielsen was asked, “Where are the girls? Were are the toddlers?”

    After all, reporters have only been given photos and videos of men and young boys being detained, no sign of the girls and the younger detainees, some of whom are infants without their mothers.


    Nielsen refuses to tell reporters where they are, and says she’ll look into that.

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/6/18/1773057/--Where-are-the-girls-DHS-chief-shrugs-can-t-say-where-migrant-girls-and-toddlers-are-held?detail=emailLL

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