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Well, no one thought it would be unanimous, but Steph should win. You always have obscure voters who want to be contrarian and have the hot takes. They are a loud, vocal minority, but they are in fact a minority.
i wasn't describing the criteria being used. i was describing the voters that i am starting to see indicating that they'll be voting for risacher. and, yes, some of them will be using counting stats as one criteria. others will argue that the hawks are playing in more meaningful games.
Well, no one thought it would be unanimous, but Steph should win. You always have obscure voters who want to be contrarian and have the hot takes. They are a loud, vocal minority, but they are in fact a minority.
i hope so. windhorst is undecided. bentamps is voting for Risacher and ESPN has Castle at #2. i hope they're still watching. risacher was awful the other night and castle has had two solid back-to-back outings.
Tim Bontemps is one of those hot take idiots I was describing. This is all created drama. If the race is pretty much decided, and it is, they generate fewer clicks. They need to bait the hook.
He sounds like it since Risacher is super one dimensional. He has definitely approved but not on the same level as Castle in any regard.
There will be a bias against Castle because there are voters who just don't like the idea of the Spurs having back to back ROTYs, probably the same guys who don't like the idea of a rookie winning DPOY last year. It's not an anti-Spurs bias, per se, but rather a bias towards idiotic "old school" thinking. A significant portion of those who vote for these NBA awards (perhaps even a majority) are people who's opinions no one should really give two s about. For example, the San Antonio Express-News' own Jeff McDonald.
I don't know who these people are who put this together (their Twitter info, email and Reddit handle are in the link), but they do a good job of compiling this list of who they think are the 100 media member voters: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...#gid=643451732
Coming into the league as a 3 and D guy is just such an easier role to walk into and that fact should be taken into account. Obviously good 3 and D's are extremely important, but its not functionally a difficult role to learn compared to lead/secondary ball handler. Now how that should be taken into account (if at all) in an awards race for RotY is open for interpretation. As a (biased) Spurs fan I give the nod to Castle for his overall counting stats advantage but his bad efficiency can't be ignored. I think the race is way closer than Castle thinks it is.
Castle's ability to get to the line is becoming a wild card in this race that needs to be acknowledged. Drawing fouls is often one of the biggest predictors of offensive star potential and seeing that in Castle has been an exciting development. If he can get a few seasons of upticks on his shooting splits and further hone/discover his favorite spots his efficiency will take care of itself.
I agree it's a lot closer, and just as you point out the 3&D role is a lot easier to come into than the role Castle was thrown into... one could counter that it's a lot easier to pad your stats on a bad team than it is on a team contending for postseason play (never mind only 4 games separate these teams and it's not Castle's fault the team's two best players had season ending injuries)... so for me I always go to this tiebreaker for ROTY:
Of all the players who have put up performances worthy of consideration (of which I think there are only really two, Castle and Risacher), which one would I rather have as a key building block of my team going forward. To me, that is clearly Castle.
castle will win running away imo. wont be unanimous but i dont think it will be particularly close
I don't think ROTY has the same anti-B2B bias that other awards have, likely because it's not the same player both times. It's only been 9 years since the Wolves did it with Wiggins and KAT. The voter base probably hasn't changed all that much since then.
Lowe and Goldsberry pick Castle for ROTY. Both are extremely high on his future prospects.
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ESPN got risacher. I don’t necessarily agree with the rationale around efficiency (castle is a creator and asked to carry the team offensively for a big chunk of the season) and TO (castle is a PG while risacher is a finisher).
Risacher is a nice 3D guy, but he does have limitations. Castle is playing a more difficult role with better output. It is hard to have risacher over castle.
Click bait.
Risacher just put up 38, this is gonna be a toss up
If they give it to Risacher, all the award voting has gone down the ter for most of the awards.
Victor was DPOY last year and he should have also gotten it this season despite those rules about minimum games played. When you're far and away the best defender in the NBA (it's not like anyone else was going to outplay him for it if he was able to finish the season) like he is, but unfortunately had a serious medical condition where he couldn't finish the season, I don't think you should be penalised for that when you've played close to the required amount of games. If the compe ion is closer like ROTY, fair enough giving it to the guy that played more games, but when you're a run away winner, I don't see why something out of your control like an injury or serious medical condition should take the award away. I think they should at least lower the amount of games required to win it (maybe to 50 IMO), because if there's a run away winner, it's crappy that he gets to miss out on it.
Castle will get screwed just like he did in the dunk contest. It will keep him motivated during the summer. He's gonna be a beast.
Against Brooklyn’s gleague team. Also, it’s one game. Where has this been all year?
Castle got this in the bag. The media is just giving a little drama to sell, and you es are already affected.
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mean media is going to give to risacher
christ... castle is going to win, and the pre-emptive crying is just sad. as if atlanta is the hotspot of NBA media/narrative rigging
Castle will win ROY
what pisses me off about wemby getting shafted out of the DPOY last season is having to hear Windhorst actually admit that his voting for Gobert was a mistake and that he should've voted for Victor.
not only that, ATL was deliberately feeding the ball to risacher just to pad his stats. the whole game was a joke.
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