***** The Official 2015 Avante Football Thread *****

[Avante]

I see a Carolina victory never in doubt in this one. So how about your prediction...BEFORE...the game, ok?

So who disagrees?

I went 8-2 SU in the playoffs, plan on going 9-2.

Cam Newton has never lost a Championship game, he won National Championships at Blinn JC (a track powerhouse) Auburn and now in the NFL. Only QB in history to do that.

The Broncos have never beat a black QB in the SB, make it 0-3.

Score...Black QB'd 85 Denver 18, so far.

[Avante]

Pay attention.

O.J. Simpson averaged...

3.9
4.1
4.1

....his first three seasons in pro football, he never gained over 760 yards in a season, there was talk of him being a bust, well in a way he was, he does have a bust in the Hall of Fame.

Would you people please slow the down and give things some damn time? Stop acting ing goofy over a game, a play or even a season or a couple, ok? I've seen some of you....HE SUCKS!!!!!!!...over a play are you kidding me? The Packers once held Barry Sanders to ..0..yards in a game, what....HE SUCKS!!!!!!...ha~~~

We have QB's in the HOF who threw almost as many picks as TD's, RB's with a 3.9 average.

It takes a QB some time to get it at the NFL level and none of them are at their best in 1-6 years, none of them, ok rookies?

And never ever ever ever, talk when the score is 6-0 in a third quarter, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Slow down little people, give things some time...............ok?

This was ing funny.

Carolina is killing them, 24 to 0.
STRUGGLE...HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OH MY GOD A BLOWOUT...at 31-0

half time

Seattle scores....7-31

well we didn't plan on a shutout.

Seattle scores...14-31

not a bad pass by struggle.

21-31

Ah...well..ah...

24-31

Ok ok struggle is getting a little lucky (gulp)

31-24 final

Carolina killed them, STRUGGLE HAHAHAHA (while inside...whew close, that Russell Wilson, wow!)

[Avante]

Russell Wilson three more td's and an MVP.

I realize nobody here knows much history so trust me when I tell you nobody has done it better after just 4 seasons....nobody!!!!!!!

But, how's he going to make it without....BEASTMODE....hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!! How aout an NFL record 4000/34/500....haha!!!!!

Thank God Derek Anderson wasn't there when he arrived in Seattle, he'd still be sitting the bench, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!

How can I see RW's greatness, all the media guys go on and on about him but some of you just don't get it, weird.

This...I MUST PROVE AVANTE WRONG....hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My fav...

$$$winning week
winning week
winning wek
break even
winning week
winning week
losing week......HAHAHAHA YOU SUCK AT THIS.

Hahahaha!!!!!!!!!

[Avante]

Wayne Allyn Root made his living selling his ATS plays to the public. He had it down, he left no stone unturned. I read his book and learned how to beat the NFL point spread. Yes there is a science to it. When I say ...beat...I am talking 58%. That really is all anyone can hope for so it comes down to money management, knowing what plays to up to bet. Root preached that.

He also preached ..role playing. A team will be one of 4 things...

HF...home fav
HD...road dog
RF...road fav
RD...road dog

ya need to know how these teams perform vs ATS in whatever role they are in that week.

This week we have Carolina as a RF vs Denver as a RD....something we will only see in a SB. Yep, unique.

There really isn't anything strong there, but you need to know that. The Marc Lawrence (professional gambler) PLAYBOOK, has every stat/trend/angle in existence. A must for any ATS player.

This helps.

http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/against-the-spread/

There are a couple things that do favor Denver in this "spot" talking ATS, one is the Panthers have struggled coming off a bye week. And, playoffs teams scoring 40 points in a game are 5-22 the following week ATS.

And at 6.5/7 a case can be made for Denver and I know Root would be on that side. But I jumped on that 4.5 the minute it came out anticipating the public would bump it up to 7, which I think it will be by kickoff.

I have mentioned in the playoffs ya don't wanna get too in tune to trends, here it's more about coach/QB and health. But I like to disect things looking for something that gives me the edge. My experience/knowledge lets me know what to look for. And here it is....

The Panthers will win the turnover battle. They are amazing at taking the ball away, number one in the league. Denver entered the playoff at minus 4 in TO's, Carolina a plus 20, that is HUGE.

So I'll either end up plus $450 or plus $1500. Will play 550 to win 500 laying the 4.5.

Now if anyone disagree let's have now and not after the game. And tell me why Denver is the play.

I get we have a lot of kids out there who get off bugging people while in hiding, I do have my fun with that but....if ya follow my ATS plays you will never have a losing season. It will always be about how much you will win. This season I lost 6 games in the last minute of the game. Three times that hook did me in. Not a good year, but another winning one, like they all are.

[Avante]

Imagine crawling out of bed with Miss America, or was it Miss USA and then going to catch passes from Joe Montana.

[Avante]

Kaepernick to the Jets, hmmmm?

First player the Jets ever drafted was George Izo a QB out of ND. That was in 1960, then in 1962 they drafted Sandy Stephens from Minnesota, THEN...in 1965 here game Joe Namath...EUREKA~~~~~

Since Broadway Joe , a whole slew of guys other teams dumped. They did have a decent QB in Richard Todd another Bama QB and Ken O' Brien out of tiny Cal-Davis.

, why not Colin Kaepernick? But, he's not an upgrade over Fitzpatrick.

[Avante]

Ok...

Let's get off..AVANTE AVANTE AVANTE and AVANTE....and talk football, ok?

Here's how it's going to go.

The Panthers will overwelm the Broncos and Peyton. The outcome will never be in a doubt, a total and complete beat down. I wouldn't be surprised to see Osweiler come in to protect Peyton.

The Panthers will get three turnovers, control the line of scrimmage and make it look easy.

How about...32-13?

[AlexJones]

Ok...

Let's get off..AVANTE AVANTE AVANTE and AVANTE....and talk football, ok?

Here's how it's going to go.

The Panthers will overwelm the Broncos and Peyton. The outcome will never be in a doubt, a total and complete beat down. I wouldn't be surprised to see Osweiler come in to protect Peyton.

The Panthers will get three turnovers, control the line of scrimmage and make it look easy.

How about...32-13?

FADE AVANTE BABY

[Avante]

My take...

First off I party on SB weekend, It's a real big deal with my circle of friends. And we party up in the hills above Porterville. I just got back, it took me awhile to be able to drive. And I still have a headache.

I haven't read anything here....yet....but I'm betting it's a bunch of rookies OVER REACTING to "a" game...right? Now Newton totally sucks...right? Hahahaha~~~~ As he joins..

Dan Marino
Jim Kelly
Fran Tarkenton
Dan Fouts
Sonny Jurgenson
Warren Moon

...who have never won the big one. All of those guys in the HOF....anyway.

OBVIOUSLY, the Panthers 0 didn't show up....why? The offense totally sucked, while the D played good enought to win.

There are a few things I should have put more into.....

Denver wanting to win one for Peyton.
Denver wanting to make amends for the last time they were there.
Carolina known for struggling after a bye week in the Newton era.

I don't wanna hear anything about that catch that was called incomplete, or any excuses, this was a butt kicking.

Cam Newton did prove that he is no Russell Wilson, who handles defeat like a man/leader should. To watch this guy looking like a spoiled brat, not good. BUT....at his age, he will have plenty of chances to get it right.

[Avante]

Knowing the depth of the water here.....

Stop being sooooooooooooo damn caught up in the right now, ok rookies? Always look at that big picture, ok? Stop over reacting to every ing thing....ok? Newton is a young guy, now think, ok rookies? Don't put too much into any 5th year QB, ok? If he's a stud like RW, cool, but he's going to get even better, as is Newton and all these young guys....ok?

Rookies, sheesh~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


If you little s are going to talk to me elevate your game, got it?

[johnsmith]

Knowing the depth of the water here.....

Stop being sooooooooooooo damn caught up in the right now, ok rookies? Always look at that big picture, ok? Stop over reacting to every ing thing....ok? Newton is a young guy, now think, ok rookies? Don't put too much into any 5th year QB, ok? If he's a stud like RW, cool, but he's going to get even better, as is Newton and all these young guys....ok?

Rookies, sheesh~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


If you little s are going to talk to me elevate your game, got it?

Hey stick....it's the super bowl....id say that's the big picture. No one on here is talking legacy except for you.


you're stupid.

[Avante]

Hey stick....it's the super bowl....id say that's the big picture. No one on here is talking legacy except for you.


you're stupid.

A ing...AVANTE AVANTE AVANTE....calling anyone stupid, hahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

, how long have you been sucking ?

[johnsmith]

A ing...AVANTE AVANTE AVANTE....calling anyone stupid, hahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

, how long have you been sucking ?

You're washed up and tired. Your posts don't even acknowledge the subject anymore because you're too stupid.


Now dance clown!!

[Avante]

You're washed up and tired. Your posts don't even acknowledge the subject anymore because you're too stupid.


Now dance clown!!

Apparently you're not paying little man. Who gets most the attention here? Hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

Look at you, who do you spend 90% of your time here humping on his leg, yep....Avante. Why is that ya little ?

[johnsmith]

Apparently you're not paying little man. Who gets most the attention here? Hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

Look at you, who do you spend 90% of your time here humping on his leg, yep....Avante. Why is that ya little ?

Easy camvante....

Down dance clown!

[Avante]

Easy camvante....

Down dance clown!

Hump leg got, hump.

Does this little er got it bad or what, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Avante]

I always get a kick out of thIs black/white thing on the internet.

I remember the old SEC/SWC back when they had no black players. And there was a time when less than half the NFLers were black (not talking way back). Trust me when I tell ya......SLOW...ok? White guys simply don't have that....SIZE/SPEED...combo, ok?

Would you believe in the history of sprinting, no white American has ever ran a sub10.00? , the HS record is 10.00. The fastest white American is John Teeters who has a 10.07 and he's at Oklahoma St right now.

The NFL has had...

Ron Brown
Sam Graddy
Trindon Holliday
Bob Hayes
Jacoby Ford
Alvis Whitted

...all run a 10.07 or faster.

White people can't run that fast, and it's real obvious.

Look at Von Miller, Derrick Thomas, Deacon Jones, Lawrence Taylor, with that size/speed. White guys can't do that? Oh yeah, JJ Watt....ha~~~

Look at yesterday games, who was starring, yep....big fast black guys.

[Avante]

The dumbest thing I read here is this..

Avante lost he won't be back (or something to that effect) do you little people honestly believe I'm at all afraid of midgets, hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!! I get a kick out of you little people, that isn't obvious?

Look at all of you who were totally wrong about the SB, but notice how I'm the only one who gets any bull over it, ha~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Yep, big fish, small pond.

[AlexJones]

Avante.. has been successfully faded

[Jodelo]

Ok...

Let's get off..AVANTE AVANTE AVANTE and AVANTE....and talk football, ok?

Here's how it's going to go.

The Panthers will overwelm the Broncos and Peyton. The outcome will never be in a doubt, a total and complete beat down. I wouldn't be surprised to see Osweiler come in to protect Peyton.

The Panthers will get three turnovers, control the line of scrimmage and make it look easy.

How about...32-13?

[Avante]

Avante.. has been successfully faded

Avante had a piss poor ATS season but STILL won $$$$. That's 23 winning seasons in a row. Lost so many games with a minute to go, it was weird.

[Avante]

What was your pick?

[Avante]

Top 10 NFL QB's in 2016.

1.Tom Brady
2.Aaron Rodgers
3.Big Ben
4.Drew Brees
5.Russell Wilson
6.Tony Romo
7.Cam Newton
8.Andrew Luck
9.Carson Palmer
10.Eli Manning

Top 10 PAC12 QB's

1.John Elway Stanford
2.Aaron Rodgers Cal
3.Warren Moon Wash
4.Dan Fouts Oreg
5.Troy Aikman UCLA
6.Carson Palmer USC
7.Drew Bledsoe WSU
8.John Brodie Stanford
9.Mark Brunell Wash
10.Andrew Luck Stanford

Top 10 All Time

1.Tom Brady
2.Joe Montana
3.Peyton Manning
4.Brett Favre
5.Dan Marino
6.Drew Brees
7.John Elway
8.Warren Moon
9.John Unitas
10.Fran Tarkenton

Top 10 Black QB's

1.Warren Moon
2.Russell Wilson
3.Donovan McNabb
4.Cam Newton
5.Randall Cunningham
6.Steve McNair
7.Michael Vick
8.Daunte Culpepper
9.Teddy Bridgewater
10.Tyrod Taylor

Top 10 Non Power Five Conference QB's

1.Brett Favre So.Miss
2.Steve Young BYU
3.Big Ben Miami of Ohio
4.Kurt Warner Northern Iowa
5.Terry Bradshaw LaTech
6.Tony Romo Eastern Illinois
7.Phil Simms Augustana
8.Randall Cunnigham UNLV
9.Joe Flacco Delaware
19.Steve McNair Alcorn

Top 10 QB's to never win a SB (in the era)

1.Dan Marino
2.John Unitas
3.Warren Moon
4.Fran Tarkenton
5.Dan Fouts
6.Jim Kelly
7.Philip Rivers
8.Sonny Jurgenson
9.Tony Romo
10.Vinny Testerverde

Top 10 Niner QB's

1.Joe Montana
2.Steve Young
3.Y.A. tle
4.John Brodie
5.Jeff Garcia
6.Alex Smith
7.Jim Plunkett
8.Colin Kaepernick
9.Steve DeBerg
10.George Mira

[Avante]

http://sportshoop.la/threads/the-dif...ussell.203111/

[Darth_Pelican]

Top 10 Black QB's

1.Warren Moon
2.Russell Wilson
3.Donovan McNabb
4.Cam Newton
5.Randall Cunningham
6.Steve McNair
7.Michael Vick
8.Daunte Culpepper
9.Teddy Bridgewater
10.Tyrod Taylor

Teddy Bridgewater & Tyrod Taylor but no Doug Williams? Come on man. Doug Williams stats don't jump off the page at all, but the dude has a Superbowl MVP in his trophy case. Tyrod Taylor above him?