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    If it was ISIS inspired what are the odds the public would be told?
    100%.

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    Always tough to judge sound from a video but this does sound like a second shooter around the 2 minute mark.

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    I am talking about any message board. ar15.com filled the vacuum. Facebook and YouTube posts filled the vacuum. Alex Jones filled the vacuum. We're filling the vacuum with our speculation, myself included. I just take my speculation and that of others with a grain of salt.
    Not much official has come out so speculation is all we are left with at this point.

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    Always tough to judge sound from a video but this does sound like a second shooter around the 2 minute mark.
    Dunno. Since it's in the middle of the other barrage sound it could be bullets impacting something like the stands these people were on. I'm sure there are plenty of holes and impact marks to trace angles of fire.

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    Not much official has come out so speculation is all we are left with at this point.
    And some are more prone to run with that speculation than others.

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    Dunno. Since it's in the middle of the other barrage sound it could be bullets impacting something like the stands these people were on. I'm sure there are plenty of holes and impact marks to trace angles of fire.
    It’s a crazy place to hear gun fire like that with all the echos from the building and the soft thuds from the gun and the crack from the bullets.

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    Top Republican Party donor Sheldon Adelson said on Friday he met presidential candidate Donald Trump earlier this week
    http://www.businessinsider.com/donal...delson-2015-12

    Donald Trump met with Sheldon Adelson last week in Las Vegas, the second face-to-face encounter between the Republican nominee and one of the Republican Party’s biggest donors in recent weeks.

    After meeting privately in Manhattan with Trump the week before, Adelson and his wife, Miriam, attended a Trump fundraiser in Las Vegas last Friday, and were seated next to Trump at the head of a large u-shaped table.
    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...adelson-227688

    A casino an, Adelson’s Las Vegas Sands Corp. owns The Venetian and The Palazzo hotels plus a number of high-end resorts in Macau. He’s a political heavyweight who spent more than $100 million trying to elect a Republican during the 2012 election, leading some to dub the compe ion for his endorsement (and the millions of dollars that come with it) the “Adelson primary.” He eventually pledged allegiance to Trump, but it appears that he only committed to give the Republican nominee $5 million -- peanuts by his standards -- instead focusing on congressional races (he committed to give Republican candidates $40 million), though he may have donated more in the closing weeks of the election. In late 2015 he purchased the Las Vegas Review-Journal. His wife, Dr. Miriam Adelson, is also on the committee.
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    Republican financier Sheldon Adelson will dine with President Trump on Thursday night at the White House
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    As Las Vegas mourned, Sheldon and Dr. Miriam Adelson met with President Donald Trump at the White House on Monday....
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    I'm really interested in what you posted, Chris. Let's talk about it. What do you think is going on here?

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    It’s a crazy place to hear gun fire like that with all the echos from the building and the soft thuds from the gun and the crack from the bullets.
    Yeah. I think echoes could be coming off the other wing of the hotel and others off Delano behind Mandalay Bay but maybe even the Luxor Towers further north too. Hearing the bullet impacts in any of the videos is pretty sickening because you know hundreds of bullets and shrapnel pieces are going into people.

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    I’ve never seen or heard anything like it. I couldn’t even imagining being there. My wife said her high school friend was there and her husband took shrapnel to the head and one in the leg. Two of my customers knew multiple people at the concert. 2 hospitalized. This one hit very close to home to many people in my circle. I hope we don’t see something in the future with a team of shooters. .

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    I thought it was just a matter of time before terrorists started hitting softer targets or gatherings but I didn't think of this. Can only hope it doesn't inspire copycats.

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    It will and it will be much worse. A well placed shooter or two waiting in a car by the gates would have been devastating. Would have added another 100+ deaths easy. Scary thought.

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    Yeah, we're almost lucky this guy seemed to have the hi-rise scenario stuck in his mind and maybe had an intention to possibly escape. If someone just wants to maximize kills it could be really bad.

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    This is amazing. Dude had a GoPro going through the entire attack. The shots and impacts sound so different as he walks around the venue. Completely understand any witness confusion.


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    Several youtube vids spouting doubts, confusion, paranoia, contradictions, "things don't add up", conspiracies

    When 10Ms of Americans believe the Bible is literally, historically, scientifically accurate, each person can interpret (make up his own ) about the Bible, deny evolution, etc, they'll believe any ing thrown at them.

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    I just saw a video of a concert goer saying the N word as they were running away. White supremacists are something else

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    blacks use the n word all the time

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    blacks use the n word all the time
    1989 argument

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    blacks use the n word all the time
    How often do you use the n word

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    I do not use the n would

    I call all race idiots stupid other names at times when they make a mistake
    like that was a idiot thing to do

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    How often do you use the n word
    you?

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    blacks use the n word all the time
    This guy said the -ER version which is sad because one of the first victims was black and one of the hero's saving victims was black.

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    I don't recall ever calling a black person a ******

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