Bovada had Steph -100,000 for ROY a few hours ago. Who the is going to put up $100k to try to win $100?
Draymond and Baron Davis singing praises
It’s like having #1 picks b2b. Let’s see how Castle pans out compared to his draft class. I think he has the best all-around game and possibly the #1 pick in a re-draft imo
People who bet on something that is voted on are short bus special, tbh.Bovada had Steph -100,000 for ROY a few hours ago. Who the is going to put up $100k to try to win $100?
This is the progression of someone who will scratch All-Star level sooner than later. Rookie guards being inefficient is par for the course. I expect him to level up in that regard. An uptick in his free-shooting alone would be huge boost.
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Notable to me was how Castle's non-scoring production really shot up at the end of the season. Yeah, his usage was really high and won't stay quite at that level, and his TOs went up accordingly, but his rebounds and assists were up significantly.
It hasn’t dawned on me but Castle might possibly be the best player of his class. Definitely the most all-around. And Spurs was lucky he was available at pick 4. It’s like having b2b #1 picks.
Bontemps is a certified Spurs hater. Not sure what's more annoying, his attempt at posing as a basketball maven and not just a mere reporter, or his grating voice and the delivery of it all .
This won't be close. Castle will be the 2025 ROTY. You can quibble about the advanced stats and some of it is a function of who he is playing with. His metrics started to go south when he shared the court less and less with Wemby even before the latter shutdown (a pattern seen with CP3 too). But Stephon has been by far the most consistent rookie this season. I don't think he even encountered the proverbial 'rookie wall' through out. Having that kind of 'floor' for his game is a reassuring thing
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Here is this year's awards tracker for anyone interested:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...KfpQ/htmlview#
If the Spurs hadn't gotten Castle into the starting lineup, the ROY very likely could/would have gone to Risacher. He (Risacher) had a big February/March. But with the minutes Castle got in the SL, there's no reasonable chance that they give it to anyone other than Castle.
One thing most people haven't paid much attention to, but it has some implications going forward. Castle's FG% and 3P% are a bit concerning. BUT...97.5% of Risacher's 3P attempts were assisted, and 73% of his 2PA were assisted. Compare that to Castle: 79% of his 3PA and only 46% of his 2PA were assisted. You see that Castle was forced to play a much different role, and not just a different position. I'm pretty optimistic that he, more than most, will really benefit from having better players on the floor. De'Aaron Fox being on the floor will get Castle better, less-contested looks, and his shooting numbers will increase even without him getting better (which he will).
Another glaring difference is that Risacher got 3.8 FTA per 100 possessions, while Castle drew 7.7 FTA per 100. That's a huge difference, and it shows that Castle forced defenders to respect him and foul. And as bad as Castle's FT shooting was at times, even I was shocked to see that at the end of the season he averaged .724 from the line. Still not enough, but it's better than I would have expected after what seemed like a lot of .500 games from the line.
Who he was playing with is key. Just the last few games how many times did he hit Biyombo in the lane with a great pass only for him to brick the shot with some half ass ugly hook flip shot?
IMO he had it wrapped up All-Star weekend.
The moment when LeBron talked to him after one of their games was also a big boost for him. Draymond also spoke highly of him and knowing Fox was excited to play with Castle just shows his pull around the league.
It’s too bad he couldn’t get a play in game to really show his potential. No more losing seasons. I really hope the spurs move quickly with their coaching decision. It’s time to get to work.
no wonder McMahon is always making fun of Bontemps.
castle shows up in more than one spot here
Nice, Castle with majority
also assuming Sam Venecie gets a vote, he's also said he has Castle as ROTY... he doesnt appear on that spreadsheet. maybe he doesnt have a vote, but that would surprise me
Nice, 12/14 now for Steph, with Bontemps voting Risacher and Andy Larsen from Salt Lake Tribune voting Jalen Wells as the two non Castle votes.
So, practically official now, huh? Back-to-back ROTYs?
What a great pick Castle turned out to be. I really liked Sheppard before the draft and still believe he can become a good player, but I'm extremely happy we got Castle instead. The "PG question" seemed like a very worrisome problem a year ago, and now it's beyond solved between Fox and him.
Now, if we could only make a trade-steal for one of those coveted 3&D SFs out there...
17 of 20 now for Steph
Hilarious that people thought this would be close….
it was just crybaby's prematurely whining about "media hates us, so unfair
Still mccains if healthy
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