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now yoni has martin running around in circles. lol
i'd have a chip if i were being stalked.
now yoni has martin running around in circles. lol
How long does it take to run from point 3 to point 5?
as long as it took for george to make it up.
How long does it take to run from point 3 to point 5?
He ran because he was being followed by car and then Zimmerman got out of his car to run after him? He was probably afraid and trying to avoid a confrontation which makes it highly implausible that his motivations would suddenly have changed.
More than scratches.
Longer than the time between the phone call and Trayvon's death imo. It also looks like the kid was trying to go home in that map. That makes it even less likely to me that he circled around.
How long does it take to run from point 3 to point 5?
nice presentation, yoni. the kids just trying to get home.
why is the truck location "presumed"?
oh, and its not his truck. its daddy's truck.
Head wounds bleed a lot Yoni. Unless he got s ches I'm still inclined to say that they weren't that serious and that they certainly weren't life-threatening. Even then the need for s ches doesn't necessarily mean that deadly force was needed in this case.
During the police call Zimmerman indicates he is stationary when Martin takes off running.
Why did he first approach Zimmerman and then run? Or, is that a lie and a very good bit of acting on the part of George Zimmerman, during the phone call?
nope, how many s ches?
More than scratches.
and tell us more about the concussion you gave george.
I'm not looking at the blood. I'm looking at the length and amount of insulted tissue on that one laceration running vertically. What caused it?
He'd already followed the kid by car at that point though. He probably stopped the truck because he was on the phone with the police.
Judging by that map it looks more like he would've had to pass the truck in order to get home. Going by the girlfriend's testimony Trayvon probably decided to cut into that pathway so that Zimmerman's truck wouldn't be able to follow him home as well. At least in part.
but we already know that george lies.
caught lying does not = good acting.Why did he first approach Zimmerman and then run? Or, is that a lie and a very good bit of acting on the part of George Zimmerman, during the phone call?
Which means he was stationary when Martin took off running.
No argument here.
So, was it some kind of slow-motion chase for Zimmerman and Martin to end up at point #5? Because, if I recall, Zimmerman was on the phone with police for over a minute longer -- after Martin took off running.
Nobody's saying that there wasn't a fight or that Zimmerman didn't sustain injuries during the altercation.
But if those injuries aren't consistent with the head pounding he claimed *and* they were able to treat him at the scene without sending him to the hospital or anything I just don't buy the idea that Zimmerman was the victim of a barbaric beating and that his only course of action was to shoot his opponent.
For the most part I'm waiting until the actual trial because a lot of these arguments make Zimmerman look worse imo.
Can you see the contusions above the cut? And, there is another laceration out of frame. He was also hit hard enough to fracture his nose.
I buy the idea Zimmerman was in the process of receiving a barbaric beating and ended it with a bullet.
D'okie dokie.
don't forget about the concussion you gave him. lol
From the transcript:
At 2:08 into the call...
At 4:07 into the call, 1 minute and 59 seconds later.Zimmerman:
Yeah. You go in straight through the entrance and then you would go left. You go straight in, don’t turn and make a left.
He’s running. [2:08]
You're telling me Trayvon Martin couldn't run further than point #5 in 1 minute and 59 seconds?Zimmerman:
Thanks.
911 dispatcher:
You’re welcome.
Call ends 4:07
who said he was running, yoni?
Here's a wider view of the neighborhood and, I can tell you as an old fat man, I can run from the front gate to the back gate of that community in less than two minutes.
A 17 year-old football player could probably do it in less than a minute.
From point 3 to point 5 is nothing.
george said he was running.
george is a known liar.
You're suggesting Zimmerman was doing a little acting during the 911 call?
Well, that would certainly indicate premeditation.
Even so, I could crawl from point 3 to point 5 in less than two minutes.
you wouldn't have to.
you're not the target george was after.
Still doesn't mean his life was in danger.
The paramedics would've sent him to the hospital if that was the case. I won't claim to be an expert here but I'm pretty sure that EMTs and Paramedics don't let someone go to the police station for questioning if there's concerns about a concussion (let alone one that could have made him a vegetable for life) and/or a need for s ches and what have you.
I find that significant because Zimmerman's the one who said that he was receiving and had already been on the receiving end of a horrific beating by the time he pulled the trigger to save himself.
All that those photos prove is that there was an altercation which I don't think anyone has denied. Either Zimmerman didn't realize that his injuries weren't that serious and panicked or he's lying about what happened.
No arguing here since I'm just curious, but is this a common saying or just something you personally use? I'm used to seeing "Okie dokie"...D'okie dokie.
I was talking about Trayvon's phone records which showed that he was on the phone according to what I've read.
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