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  1. #76
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    No one's stupid enough to move a team away from LA..
    Signed, The Oakland Raiders and St Louis Rams

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    Signed, The Oakland Raiders and St Louis Rams
    OK, no one is stupid enough to pay $2 billion and move the team away from LA

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    Ballmer is described as a "Seattle-based former Microsoft chief executive."

    "Seattle Clippers" has a nice ring to it.


    Sorry Juan, Ballmer will be ting on Fredo in LA

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    Five years ago it made sense to move the Clip Show, imo.

    Doesn't make sense to move them now, though.

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    I don't get the cons utional rights objection. Free speech means you can't go jail for expressing unpopular opinions.
    I read that as less of a screed over protected rights and more of a comment on digital mobs with pitchforks. Somebody gets into trouble because of something they said or did, the digital mob foments and then the offending party has to resign or quit from whatever it is that he or she does. Just once I would like some public figure to say "You know what? you. I'm not resigning/quitting."

    I don't know that I want to live in a world where we beat up a guy because of he said in private when he was illegally taped. Don't we all feel better that we ganged up on this dude now that it's been revealed he's senile and has alzheimers? All those liberals patting themselves on the back for how enlightened and progressive and tolerant they are because they had the balls to gang up on a sick old man. It's just meaningless posturing and signaling and there's more important to be worried about. those idiots who act like Donald Sterling himself personally came to their house and dropped N-bombs to their face. To those people I say get over yourselves.

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    All those liberals patting themselves on the back for how enlightened and progressive and tolerant they are because they had the balls to gang up on a sick old man.
    Let's not pretend like Sterling didn't make a career out of preying on the weak as a de able slumlord....

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    Let's not pretend like Sterling didn't make a career out of preying on the weak as a de able slumlord....
    I'm willing to bet that pretty close to 0 % of the digital mob gave a about any of that until he got busted on TMZ.

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    Sorry Juan, Ballmer will be ting on Fredo in LA
    To be fair, Ballmer was Microsoft Fredo.

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    I'm willing to bet that pretty close to 0 % of the digital mob gave a about any of that until he got busted on TMZ.
    Doesn't mean he deserves sympathy or pity for getting a far more sanitized version of the kind of treatment he doled out to countless other people for decades without a care in the world....

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    To be fair, Ballmer was Microsoft Fredo.
    Meh, there's a big difference between being CEO of a company and being a sports team owner, so it doesn't really translate.... the owners who try to run their teams like a business usually are the tiest ones....

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    Doesn't mean he deserves sympathy or pity for getting a far more sanitized version of the kind of treatment he doled out to countless other people for decades without a care in the world....
    It also means I don't have to take seriously most of the people criticizing him.

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    Yet posters on a message board call him a "moron" who "overpaid"

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    Yet posters on a message board call him a "moron" who "overpaid"
    Try spining it which ever way you feel like it, but Ballmer overpaid by a good 400 odd mil son. This ain't the Lakers or the Knicks, you're one Blake Griffin injury away from lottery.

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    Five years ago it made sense to move the Clip Show, imo.

    Doesn't make sense to move them now, though.
    Yep, now with Ballmer's money the Lakers will slide into irrelevancy.

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    Yet posters on a message board call him a "moron" who "overpaid"
    Pays to be friends with Bill Gates tbh. LOL those shares going up that much once he said he was leaving.

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    OK, no one is stupid enough to pay $2 billion and move the team away from LA
    I think the purchase price demonstrates that money wasn't the first consideration.

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    I think the purchase price demonstrates that money wasn't the first consideration.
    Moot point anyways, since the other owners would never approve the move while they have maybe the best stadium in the NBA to play in.

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    Man, if the Clipps are worth $2B, I wonder how much the Spurs are worth. Especially with their $2.99 court side seats.

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    Moot point anyways, since the other owners would never approve the move while they have maybe the best stadium in the NBA to play in.
    The renderings of the new Sonics Arena look pretty awesome.

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    Moot point anyways, since the other owners would never approve the move while they have maybe the best stadium in the NBA to play in.
    Yeah but they don't own the building, and from what I've heard they have much less favorable terms on their lease than the Lakers do. They also have a TV deal closer in size to San Antonio's than the Lakers. Basically the only real big market revenue stream the Clips are tapping into right now are ticket prices. Are there advantages to staying in LA? yeah. And I would enjoy watching a competent owner compete with the Lakers in the market. But with a guy like Balmer, if they don't gain traction in the market I could see them looking at Seattle in a couple years if that situation hasn't resolved itself. The new media deal the league is going to sign is going to further erode the advantages of big markets over smaller ones.

    So I guess my point is that they probably stay in LA. But Balmer has already proven that money isn't the deciding factor for him (and since he is sole owner he has no partners where this is an issue) BUT even if it was a factor, going forward the upcoming revenue streams from league-wide rights will make it even easier to make serious money in mid and small markets.

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    Yeah but they don't own the building, and from what I've heard they have much less favorable terms on their lease than the Lakers do. They also have a TV deal closer in size to San Antonio's than the Lakers. Basically the only real big market revenue stream the Clips are tapping into right now are ticket prices. Are there advantages to staying in LA? yeah. And I would enjoy watching a competent owner compete with the Lakers in the market. But with a guy like Balmer, if they don't gain traction in the market I could see them looking at Seattle in a couple years if that situation hasn't resolved itself. The new media deal the league is going to sign is going to further erode the advantages of big markets over smaller ones.

    So I guess my point is that they probably stay in LA. But Balmer has already proven that money isn't the deciding factor for him (and since he is sole owner he has no partners where this is an issue) BUT even if it was a factor, going forward the upcoming revenue streams from league-wide rights will make it even easier to make serious money in mid and small markets.
    They have two years in that current TV deal, which was ty because it was negotiated under Prime Sterling's garbage team when it looked like we were headed into another great depression.

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    Yeah but they don't own the building, and from what I've heard they have much less favorable terms on their lease than the Lakers do.
    IIRC, they pay less than the Lakers do to use the same arena, so it's not really that unfavorable.... additionally, I wonder if he might try to buy the Staples Center next, since AEG has been rumored as wanting to sell it for a while now....

    They also have a TV deal closer in size to San Antonio's than the Lakers.
    That will be changing soon in a major way, especially with how desperate FOX will be to keep as many LA teams as possible with Time Warner encroaching on the market.... FOX already lost the Lakers and Dodgers to Time Warner, doubt they'll want to lose a third.... I could see Comcast looking to get into the LA market as well....

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    IIRC, they pay less than the Lakers do to use the same arena, so it's not really that unfavorable.... additionally, I wonder if he might try to buy the Staples Center next, since AEG has been rumored as wanting to sell it for a while now....


    That will be changing soon in a major way, especially with how desperate FOX will be to keep as many LA teams as possible with Time Warner encroaching on the market.... FOX already lost the Lakers and Dodgers to Time Warner, doubt they'll want to lose a third.... I could see Comcast looking to get into the LA market as well....
    Comcast is getting into the LA market by buying Time Warner.

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    Comcast is getting into the LA market by buying Time Warner.
    You're right, I didn't know that was being finalized.... last I heard, Charter was trying to buy them instead....

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    You're right, I didn't know that was being finalized.... last I heard, Charter was trying to buy them instead....
    I think Charter is going to get some of the markets that have to be jettisoned from the others to clear the an rust business, but it seems like the sale is going to happen.

    Seriously though, I think Ballmer is just going to wait out the lease or even pay to break it to bring the NBA back to Seattle in a few years. The sheer amount of money he put into it makes me think he wants the Sonics to be his legacy.

    I mean, what existing franchise would be the easiest to move? For most intents and purposes, the Clips are kind of redundant/superfluous where they are.

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