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  1. #76
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    What power forward is greater?
    Duncan isnt a power forward.

    He's a FINO. Forward in name only.

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    Duncan isnt a power forward.

    He's a FINO. Forward in name only.
    LOL you're full of excuses

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    LOL you're full of excuses
    If we PRETEND that Duncan is a power forward (he's not), hes not EVEN CLOSE the scorer, rebounder or all-around player that Charles Barkley was. Likewise he was consistent but not "Karl Malone consistent". Number of 20 & 10 games:

    1 Karl Malone* 818
    2 Shaquille O'Neal 723
    3 Hakeem Olajuwon* 639
    4 Tim Duncan 601
    But he was a pussy center who wanted to guard smaller players so he called himself a "forward". The turth was he was a good center but was never dominant like Shaq or Hakeem.

    Sorry, but the numbers dont lie.

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    Eh...no.

    The "Jordan Game" of 40 points and 5 assists:
    So you just came up with a list that was essentially pointless.

    Its easy with the "Truly Greats". They all have something they were the best at.

    So what was Duncan the best at?
    Winning championships for small markets.

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    So you just came up with a list that was essentially pointless.



    Winning championships for small markets.
    So youre saying the numbers lie?

    Also, teams win championships, individual players dont.

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    So youre saying the numbers lie?
    No, I am saying your criteria has no relevance. It's quite arrogant that you'd somehow that whatever criteria came up with is the be all and end all, despite it being clear that is not the case at all.

    Also, teams win championships, individual players dont.
    But Duncan was in part of those disasters

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    No, I am saying your criteria has no relevance. It's quite arrogant that you'd somehow that whatever criteria came up with is the be all and end all, despite it being clear that is not the case at all.



    But Duncan was in part of those disasters
    But, again, I ask YOU to define the criteria and you cant:

    A) Duncan did a lot of times (say more than 30)

    B) Barkley, Malone, Olajuwon or Shaq didnt do it MORE.

    We can do it for Shaq, Hakeem, Malone, Barkley, Jordan, Lebron...even Kobe.

    But not Duncan.

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    25 points, 10 rebouds, 3 3-pointers:

    1 Dirk Nowitzki 54
    2 Kevin Durant 50
    3 Kevin Love F 48

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    But, again, I ask YOU to define the criteria and you cant:

    A) Duncan did a lot of times (say more than 30)

    B) Barkley, Malone, Olajuwon or Shaq didnt do it MORE.

    We can do it for Shaq, Hakeem, Malone, Barkley, Jordan, Lebron...even Kobe.

    But not Duncan.
    Longevity, win shares, advanced stats, playoff performances.

    BTW, your second criteria basically compared 4 greats to one.

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    10 points, 10 rebounds, 10 assists:

    1 Jason Kidd G 107
    2 Magic Johnson* G 91
    3 Larry Bird* F 46
    Note that Magic and Birds first three seasons arent in there.

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    Longevity, win shares, advanced stats, playoff performances.

    BTW, your second criteria basically compared 4 greats to one.
    Not true. I CAN find a criteria that Shaq did a lot and more than Barkely, Malone, Hakeem and Duncan. Its easy. Most games with 30 points and 15 rebounds.

    We can do it for Hakeem, Barkley, Malone and Shaq.

    But not Duncan. Anything he did, the others did better. Because they were better.

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    Putting Barkley and Malone on the same level as Hakeem and Shaq
    Thinking Barkley and Malone were better than Duncan

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    If we PRETEND that Duncan is a power forward (he's not), hes not EVEN CLOSE the scorer, rebounder or all-around player that Charles Barkley was. Likewise he was consistent but not "Karl Malone consistent". Number of 20 & 10 games:
    Barkley couldn't win as the #1 with Majerle and KJ, and made the Rockets worse when he tried coat-tailing Olajuwon and Drexler. Karl Malone consistency Consistently blowing the playoffs. Why do you love losers so much?

    But he was a pussy center who wanted to guard smaller players so he called himself a "forward". The turth was he was a good center but was never dominant like Shaq or Hakeem.
    Yeah, that was the Spurs gameplan to have Duncan chasing around smalls.

    Sorry, but the numbers dont lie.
    Yes, Duncan won 30+ playoff series.

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    Putting Barkley and Malone on the same level as Hakeem and Shaq
    Thinking Barkley and Malone were better than Duncan
    Same way Jared Dudley > Carmelo

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    Barkley couldn't win as the #1 with Majerle and KJ, and made the Rockets worse when he tried coat-tailing Olajuwon and Drexler. Karl Malone consistency Consistently blowing the playoffs. Why do you love losers so much?



    Yeah, that was the Spurs gameplan to have Duncan chasing around smalls.



    Yes, Duncan won 30+ playoff series.
    Well, I think I proved my point.

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    Ill check in later. See if anyone can come up with anything except "team accomplishments".

    But they wont.

    They cant.

    You cant fabricate greatness.

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    Ill check in later. See if anyone can come up with anything except "team accomplishments".

    But they wont.

    They cant.

    You cant fabricate greatness.
    Who had more 20 and 10 games between Jared Dudley and Carmelo Anthony?

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    Who had more 20 and 10 games between Jared Dudley and Carmelo Anthony?
    Getting upset, arent ya?

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    Getting upset, arent ya?
    I just want to know, you say Dudley is better.

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    I just want to know, you say Dudley is better.
    Number of games by a forward where they shot 20 times but shot less that 40%:

    1 Carmelo Anthony 149
    2 Antoine Walker 142
    3 Jamal Mashburn 94


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    Thats game, set, match bum.

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    Number of games by a forward where they shot 20 times but shot less that 40%:



    And every single NBA team would still trade Dudley for Melo without a moment's hesitation.

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    Thats game, set, match bum.
    How many 20/10 games did Dudley have and how many did Melo?

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    Not true. I CAN find a criteria that Shaq did a lot and more than Barkely, Malone, Hakeem and Duncan. Its easy. Most games with 30 points and 15 rebounds.

    We can do it for Hakeem, Barkley, Malone and Shaq.

    But not Duncan. Anything he did, the others did better. Because they were better.
    Duncan's got five parades to Barkley's one

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    How many 20/10 games did Dudley have and how many did Melo?
    You dont know when to quit, do you?

    Commendable!

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