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    So instead of just trying to get sacks, he shouldn't be deflecting passes, forcing fumbles, returning them for TDs, tackling for losses, hitting the QB, and intercepting the ball?
    well if we are speaking about stats, then his numbers are way down compared to 2012, and he didn't win the mvp then, so..

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    well if we are speaking about stats, then his numbers are way down compared to 2012, and he didn't win the mvp then, so..
    Having the most sacks doesn't automatically make you MVP. The fact he has to carry the entire team and is a big reason why they aren't going to be 2-14 again, AND scoring on offense. You said he should.be leading the league in sacks and then move the goalposts. Oh, and he is 2.5 sacks away from leading the league, with no other primary rushers.
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    So why aren't those millions of average Joes in the NFL making catches?
    Seriously dude?

    Warren Sapp was known for making crazy goal line touchdowns..

    People call me a homer..

    I played WR and DB through HS, and FKLA is right on this. Over the shoulder, one hand catches, they take talent... but ANY average Joe can make a good catch once in a while.

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    This and your Dunning Kruger takes are historically bad. Catching the ball is a skill you dumbass. And defensive lineman usually don't have the hands to do so.
    Forgot about those.

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    Having the most sacks doesn't automatically make you MVP. The fact he has to carry the entire team and is a big reason why they aren't going to be 2-14 again, AND scoring on offense. You said he should.be leading the league in sacks and then move the goalposts. Oh, and he is 2.5 sacks away from leading the league, with no other primary rushers.
    i did not say he'd be the mvp, but if you have a ty record, your D is not even close to being the top ranked one and you don't even lead the league in sacks, interception or tackles, then i don't see a scenario where a few td (well, not that few) can make him the mvp.

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    Seriously dude?

    Warren Sapp was known for making crazy goal line touchdowns..

    People call me a homer..

    I played WR and DB through HS, and FKLA is right on this. Over the shoulder, one hand catches, they take talent... but ANY average Joe can make a good catch once in a while.
    He's making those catches consistently and is the best TE on the team. Average Joes can be easily covered in the end zone. Watt can't which is why they put him there on scoring opportunities.

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    i did not say he'd be the mvp, but if you have a ty record, your D is not even close to being the top ranked one and you don't even lead the league in sacks, interception or tackles, then i don't see a scenario where a few td (well, not that few) can make him the mvp.
    Watt has the most pass deflections by any defender, most fumble recoveries, most tackles by a defensive lineman, most combination tackles by any defender in the league. Most TD catches by any TE on the team .And only needs 2.5 sacks to be in first. This is with Clowney barely playing, and a ty QB all year. Yet they have a chance to have a winning record next week.

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    Also, the Texans D has the most takeaways in the league. #MVPWatt

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    Watt has the most pass deflections by any defender, most fumble recoveries, most tackles by a defensive lineman, most combination tackles by any defender in the league. Most TD catches by any TE on the team .And only needs 2.5 sacks to be in first. This is with Clowney barely playing, and a ty QB all year. Yet they have a chance to have a winning record next week.
    ahm, no he's not.

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    http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/pl...nse/sort/sacks

    Not going through 36 pages. He obviously leads DL.

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    Watt started out as a tight end at CMU before transferring to Wisconsin, so he obviously has experience catching the ball. FkLA being a re ed tranny-lover per par.

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    Watt belongs in that club with Jim Brown, Don Hutson, "Slingin" " Sammy Baugh, "Night Train" Lane, Deacon Jones, "Bullet" Bob Hayes amd Lawrence Taylor........those who were unique and not seen before.

    If I could start a new franchise and could have any player other than a QB it would be Watt.

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    not what you said tbh

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    ing lol at the two dumbest posters on this site trying to play the youre dumb card. Yeah, Watt is Gronk bc he made an over the shoulder catch. If I need a big catch in a crucial game I am going straight to Watt!!
    ing lol at you being so asshurt over whatever these two posters said to you that you try to say that JJ Watt catching over the shoulder fade routes in goal line situations is something most any defensive lineman could do.

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    Trying to bring up his stint as a TE at Central Michigan as if that's a good thing. So let me get this straight...he was a below average receiving TE in the MAC yet somehow now hes the best receiving TE on an NFL team. That makes sense.

    Watt wouldn't even make an NFL squad as a receiving TE, you re ed homers.

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    Didn't Antonio Gates and Peppers play bball in college? Bet they couldve been the best player on an NBA team!!

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    It really is weird that someone who calls themselves a Spurfan can be so hard-headed about the impact a player has on a game outside of their raw stats, tbh...

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    It really is weird that someone who calls themselves a Spurfan can be so hard-headed about the impact a player has on a game outside of their raw stats, tbh...
    Its really weird that you seriously think JJ is the difference maker for Houston

    thinking Watt is more Burke to their team than Rodgers, Brady or even Rivers.

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    He's making those catches consistently and is the best TE on the team. Average Joes can be easily covered in the end zone. Watt can't which is why they put him there on scoring opportunities.
    Bwahaha this re ed ass actually thinks Watt is catching TDs bc he 'cant be covered'. Gronk and Graham aint got on Watt tbh.

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    The first college basketbaler to make an impact in the NFL was Niner receiver R.C.Owens. He played b-ball at Idaho.

    He and Hall of Fame (to be) QB were the first to use the ...Alley Oop...pass as a legit weapon. tle would just throw it up high and Owens would out jump everyone for the ball.

    There was a game where the opposition was going to try a long field goal, the thought process was....it might just make it barely.....so they put Owens back there to block it, yep....jump up and bat the ball down....hahahaha!!!!!!!

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    Owens was a trail blazer of another supremely athletic move. But it was one that was barred from the game.
    In 1962, the 6-foot-3 Owens wowed fans by standing under the goal post at the goal line (goal posts have since been moved to the back of the end zone) and leaping to block a long, line-drive field-goal attempt by the Washington Redskins. The tactic was legislated out of existence.

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    Not saying he was some amazing tight end, just pointing out that he has experience on offense. Obviously if he was some great TE, he'd still be playing there. Nobody's acting like Watt would be a stud on offense but to claim that just any defensive lineman could make those catches is re ed. Go back to searching for tranny porn, you're clearly out of your element.

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    Its really weird that you seriously think JJ is the difference maker for Houston

    thinking Watt is more Burke to their team than Rodgers, Brady or even Rivers.
    Who's the difference-maker on that ty-ass Houston roster, then? zpatrick? 80-year-old Andre Johnson? Jadeveon "my pussy's sore so I can't play today" Clowney?

    Your football takes are almost as consistently ty as Avante's.

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    Not saying he was some amazing tight end, just pointing out that he has experience on offense. Obviously if he was some great TE, he'd still be playing there. Nobody's acting like Watt would be a stud on offense but to claim that just any defensive lineman could make those catches is re ed. Go back to searching for tranny porn, you're clearly out of your element.
    Have you read what your re ed buddy dumbjohn has been writing? I never said any lineman could run a simple route and catch a pass either--although I also don't think it's some rare trait. All I said was catching is an elementary skill, which it is. You don't need experience as a TE or WR to be able to make a catch.

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    Its really weird that you seriously think JJ is the difference maker for Houston

    thinking Watt is more Burke to their team than Rodgers, Brady or even Rivers.
    oh look, its the guy who said Cam Newton was better than Joe Montana trying to talk . How's life, you got homer piece of ? Panthers still a complete dumpster fire?

    Have you read what your re ed buddy dumbjohn has been writing? I never said any lineman could run a simple route and catch a pass either--although I also don't think it's some rare trait. All I said was catching is an elementary skill, which it is. You don't need experience as a TE or WR to be able to make a catch.
    if catching is such an elementary skill then why are the Pats light a super bowl ring right now? because if wes welker makes just one, easy, "elementary" catch, they win that game. guy must in suck tbh.

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    Who's the difference-maker on that ty-ass Houston roster, then? zpatrick? 80-year-old Andre Johnson? Jadeveon "my pussy's sore so I can't play today" Clowney?

    Your football takes are almost as consistently ty as Avante's.
    Damn you're dumb.

    Johnson is 33, the number one sprinter in the world for 2014 was 32 year old Justin Gatlin. How old was Jerry Rice when he retired?

    If stupid were illegal you'd be behind bars.

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