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Magic, Kenny, and Barkely all picked Ginobili as the Wild Card during Inside the NBA on TNT last night.
At first glance they seem so. But you have to also factor shot attempts to get the full picture of efficiency.
Magic, Kenny, and Barkely all picked Ginobili as the Wild Card during Inside the NBA on TNT last night.
Don't know about comparisons but how many teams have their starting PG and SG both shooting .490.
Ok Dude, Manu is popular because of his NBA play as well. Is he not exciting?
Just because he doesn't have Lebron numbers doesn't mean he doesn't deserve it.
Actually more than that... he played in only 20 out of the 46 games Utah has played so far in the season.
I do believe AK-47 is a of a player and he would probably have been chosen if not for missing so many games due to injury. Even in this case, you could make the argument that he would have taken Marion's spot. They play in the same position(s), and this would remove one of the extra Suns' spots (so other teams won't complain). By simply extrapolating the stats, I think Marion's still is ahead of AK-47 stat wise though.
Anyway, the stats are only one of the aspects considered in the selection of the reserves, and AK-47 would probably have been chosen for no other reason than to have more players from other teams.
NO to AK-47. Nobody from lousy teams should be considered for the reserves. You reward good play for good teams.
That's why the East is so ridiculous. Two players from a bad team will likely go to the ASG: Vince Carter (voted in) and Jason Kidd.
Jason Kidd will steal Gilbert Arenas' spot.
Actually Marion and JJ play excellent D its the other three that aren't as committed as those two. And if you want to consider defense isn't the best tally for seeing what a good defense is the point differential...and since the suns score more they're going to give up more points, but when it comes down to it.
The spurs are the best at
+11.02
The suns are second with
+8.68
Difference of 2.34. I don't think a good defense means you hold a team to a low scoring game but a good defense holds a team to scoring way less points than you do and thats what both these teams do...
The only way teams get these kinds of point differentials is to be great at BOTH ends of the floor.
which I believe both these teams are hence thats why they are 1-2
Well, I don't think you can really make an argument that Phoenix is a good defensive team. Certainly not good in the same sense that the Spurs are good defensive team.
The point differential is one aspect of assessing defense, but it's equally a comment on offense. Defense is about stopping your opponent, and the point differential doesn't inherently say anything, really about stops. A bad offensive team could still have a high point differential, if it played really good defense. Phoenix is the opposite of that. They score so many points, that teams can't keep up. In point differential terms, it's Phoenix's offense that gives them large margins.
Phoenix's defense might be adequate, in light of their points scored, or better yet, it might be deemed "effective," but it is certainly not good.
Manu is the only SG that ranks in the top 10 in the WC in:
PPG
FG%
3P%
FT%
Rebounds
Assists
Steals
Blocks
http://members.rogers.com/edkupfer/n...tats_small.htm
Please use that link to see just how good certain defenses and offenses are. Simple. Much better than simple PPG scored and allowed. It factors in efficiency.
Be sure to tell them to look at Brent Barry under offensive production. Hopefully then maybe they'll understand why he needs to be on the court any time our offense is stagnating.
To all the guys who keep downplaying Manu's Gold Medal performance...I understand the point you make about it being a different game...
But what exactly has TMac ever done? Lose 19 in a row? Tank it?
You can have the guy who loses 19 in a row while leading the NBA in scoring...I'll take the guy that knocks off a team of NBA All Stars(about half of whom will be on this years All Star Team), international play or not.
Yes, Brent Barry is one of the most productive offensive role players in the league. Although he does not see as many possesions as he did in Seattle, he is supremely efficient cause he scores and produces on a limited amount of possesions.
The fact that he does not turn it over really helps out a lot as well. I still think he can stay at the same efficiency or better, even with more possesions in the offense. But if Parker and Manu stay solid, they should not be a big deal.
But I still would like to see Barry fulfill his potential in his role. He has a little bit more potency left in him.
Barry's not used to all this winning and getting all these wide open shots...it's too rich for his sytem.
This guy is used to playing for teams like the Clippers, the post Jordan Bulls, and the baaaad Sonics.
His FG%'s will improve next season.
In the meantime, he's been clutch...I just hope it translates to the post season.
I didn't say anything about numbers. All I'm saying is that Manu should make the all star game because of what he's done in the NBA this season, not because of what he did in international play.
Winning should be a factor, but I think it's short-sighted to say that no players from bad teams should make the all star game. Some really good players have some really good seasons on bad teams. Some of the time, there isn't much they can do to turn the team around.
I agree about AK47. I think he's played well enough, but he simply hasn't appeared in enough games. Manu should certainly go before him.
If Kobe doesn't play, and it's looking like that will be the case, I would think that it would be great for Manu to go. If Kobe is there, I simply can't see how Manu can be considered over Kobe, McGrady, Allen, and Nash. And if I had to pick another small forward/guard, I'd have to consider Lewis as much as I'd have to consider Manu. He's had a great season.
I hope Manu goes, but in my mind, he's really borderline. In the end, I really don't give a crap. I'm more interested in what happens in the months after the all star game. If Manu goes, I pray that he won't get hurt.
I'm all for the all star game because the fans like it. But what do you all think about possibly playing the game after the regular season like the NFL does? It would get less attention, but I would hate to see any player on any team miss significant time because he got injured in the all star game.
anyway,all-star week is also a chance for a rest during the season..
i'm afraid Nash,Ray Allen,maybe Mike Bibby will be considered over Manu.i don't want to see that,but that might be a fact
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