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See old American Basketball Association for ramifications to the NBA.
Hopefully merger.
See old American Basketball Association for ramifications to the NBA.
Merging + expansion.
I can imagine some franchises being created in big markets like France, Germany and England and some Euro teams like CSKA Moscow becoming NBA franchises.
No, you ignorant asshole. The only way he would not be taxed on that money is if he renounces his American citizenship. And it doesn't matter what bank he decides to put it in, either.
Why don't you find a ing Chinese forum, and go discuss Yao's health problems or something?
a will farrel movie
NBA has candian teams,, always thought that was intresting
i just don't see the FIBA teams being willing to expand their seasons to 82 games but i could be wrong.
If it means more revenue for the owners, I don't see why they would be against it.
Actually if you're going to play the rest of the World for a true basketball championship, you are going to have to cut the NBA season down some.
Taxes from US Citizens working abroad is subject to an 82,000 tax exemption. The rest can be taxed is US citizen but I was not wrong about Swiss Banks.
Taxation
Swiss law distinguishes between tax evasion and tax fraud. If any holdings are not declared to the taxation authorities, a natural or legal person commits tax evasion. Tax evasion is not considered an offence, but only a misdemeanour. It is assumed that failed declaration of one's assets is not sufficient evidence for criminal intent, as the chance of unintentional failure is too high. However, tax fraud is considered a criminal offence under Swiss law and prosecuted according to the Swiss Penal Code. A forged tax declaration, like the statement of significantly below-market valuation of real estate or the counterfeiting of bank statements, is a criminal offense.
agree. the rest of the world has one schedule and we have another. then if you factor in overseas travel time, the logisitics get a little hairy.
moreover, if FIBA salaries are already comparable to NBA salaries for less games, they would have to pony up more cash for an 82 game season. that could be an obstacle for NBA teams to attract talent in a true global league since the NBA already compensates based on 82 games.
the only problem with that is that Josh's contract is public knowledge. The IRS is fully aware of the situation and expect a certain amount of taxes to be paid by him. If he stashes in a swiss bank account, he'd better not have any intent of returning to the US. The IRS has agents that track like this.
Good point. I guess the more realistic change would be the NBA cutting back on the number of regular season games.
Except those Euroleague teams do not play as many games as the NBA and yet are paying higher than NBA salaries to Nachbar, Childress, Delfino, and possibly Scola. eek!
Here's an interesting article I found on the evolution of Euroleague Ball to give you an idea what they are thinking over there.
All-star symposium discusses European basketball's evolution
A panel of European basketball greats looked to the past and the future during the annual Final Four symposium in Madrid on Saturday. The symposium, "50 Years of European Club Basketball: The evolution of the game on and off the court", offered six distinguished panel members the opportunity to discuss the changes from European club basketball's early beginnings on outdoor courts to today's game as played in glitzy arenas and relayed live around the world through technology. The panelists were Borislav Stankovic, FIBA Secretary General Emeritus; Eduardo Portela, ULEB President; Shimon Mizrahi, Maccabi Tel Aviv President; Dejan Bodiroga, Lottomatica Roma Team Manager; Aito Garcia Reneses, DKV Joventut Head Coach; and Sergio Scariolo, Unicaja Head Coach. The audience consisted of Final Four guests, media members and students of the Masters in Sports Marketing and Communications co-sponsored by Euroleague Basketball and Universita CaŽ Foscari in Venice, Italy. Here are some excerpts of their discussion.
Borislav Stankovic, FIBA Secretary General Emeritus
- "That Euroleague Basketball has 2.5 million spectators in one season now is remarkable. When we started, those kinds of numbers were just unthinkable. There is a great interest in the game but also in the business of Euroleague basketball as well. Overhead costs have gone up, so there is a greater need to generate revenues. "
- "We need unity to have strength in European basketball. We cannot have two groups. We simply need to find the ways to work together and I don't think we are far from it. "
- "We need to work much harder on the organization of the games. Music and entertainment are necessary. We can draw ideas from others of how things can be done. It doesn't have to be only a game. It can also be about listening to music and about being a show. It should be a small show. And this can work if we work with the clubs."
- "If we have a good organization and a good game, I think the economic situation of the Euroleague clubs will improve. I don't think we need to worry about Americans taking our players. If you can earn enough here, I think the players will decide to stay here. "
Eduardo Portela, ULEB President
- "The Euroleague is a great organization but we need to organize with FIBA. Altogether, we've been successful. We've wanted to control our destiny and we succeeded with that. We need to make good use of that capacity. It's good we have the agreement with FIBA Europe which establishes the role of both organizations and where all organizations will benefit."
- "In my humble opinion, I think there is a great crisis in American basketball. There is a problem in U.S. colleges. There are no players coming up. So the NBA is going to find players they like in Europe. But we have to be patient and go on working and redoubling our effort and waiting until the trend reverses itself. We cannot beat them. It's the players themselves who will decide. Bodiroga decided to not go and to stay in Europe. We need to be patient."
Shimon Mizrahi, Maccabi Tel Aviv President
- "Before, basketball was shining in smaller cities like Cantu, Varese and Pau-Orthez, which won the French domestic league and then played in Europe. And now you see big cities like Rome, Berlin and Brussels doing their best to build winning teams. "
- "We cannot ignore the fact that the former Yugoslavia supplied so many players and coaches. And with the Soviet Union there were political issues that interfered with the sport with games being forfeited and played at neutral sites. But will the fall of the Iron Curtain, the issue became history. "
- "We also have more exposure now compared to soccer. In the past it was difficult to find coverage. But today there is a lot more coverage in the papers and on the internet. "
- "Another major factor over the time was foreigners and naturalization of players and the Bosman ruling. We discovered talent in South America and Africa and they have made an impact on the Euroleague basketball. "
Dejan Bodiroga, Lottomatica Roma Team Manager
- "We see more players coming from countries that we would not say are historical basketball countries. But they are very important players for their teams and that is very good for basketball. "
- "The game has changed. We don't see players scoring 25 or 30 points a game any more. The game is more physical. There are more tactics. And the game is more collective, players play more for the team. Also, many of the players are young and many people forget some essential things. You need to have a good fundamental basis to play the game correctly. The game is not just physical. And sometimes young players forget that and that could be a problem in the future."
- "The game has evolved tremendously. We see great talent in the players - even more than 15 or 20 years back. Players leave for America and succeed. Twenty years ago that was unthinkable. But Europe is quite a different place. Only with the help of all will we be able to succeed and I think we have come to a great point in the history of our sport."
Aito Garcia Reneses, DKV Joventut Head Coach
- "We used to look to university and college basketball as our reference. But the main difference was the execution of the fundamentals of the game, they did that at a much faster speed. And I think we in Europe have learned to speed up the execution of the fundamentals. "
- "Early on we were astounded by the level of the NBA game. Eventually we caught up to the NBA. Thanks to the efforts of many managers, players and coaches from the U.S., we improved the level of our game. But we haven't fallen into the overall trap of over-marketing the game."
- "Of course, European basketball is not as strong as the NBA. We don't have the dollars and financial strength of the NBA. But I think over the past few years we are getting there. "
Sergio Scariolo, Unicaja Head Coach
- "I think we have all come to realize that the product that we are trying to sell is the most important part. And the product is the game. And we have to promote the game. But if the quality goes down, it will be more difficult to get fans and sponsors."
- "We have seen an evolution of the physiques of the players, in their bodies. Science has had a very important role in the evolution of the game as well, with training techniques and recovery techniques."
- "I think the turning point came with the three-time champion Split teams (1989-1991) - not because of the results but because of the style of the game, their movement and speed and the participation of more players. That was the turning point - more of a concept of team play for the collective."
- "I think we would all agree that the evolution of the game will always favor the players who can pass the ball and will always favor the teams with many players in their roles who can pass the ball and choose the right moment to pass to the right person."
- "An important part of the step forward as a coach is the area of having most of the games online and being able to work with a huge database. We have seen companies which select images of players and store them. And if you want to know how many three-pointers a player on a team has made from the right side of the court, you can call up the company and get that information. So the web has a great relevance."
http://ulebcup.com/item/31758
The NBA can shorten a his regular season to something like 60 games.
82 games season is beyond stupidity.
Stern should, ASAP, set up a serious compe ion between the NBA and the Euro champs. (Think Ryder Cup in golf.)
I think a lot of this bull could be put to rest when the world got to see CSKA get humiliated by this season's Celtics. And to really drive the point home, let the Euro runners-up play against the Lakers, Spurs, Pistons, Hornets, etc. People have read far too much into Olympic and other international compe ion that doesn't really mean that much to our players.
The Euro teams aren't able to lure NBA players without paying them more than they can make in the NBA. So if they are going to field a whole team of NBA-caliber players, they will have to have a payroll of what, 100-120 Million dollars? Even a billionaire has to think about intentionally losing 50-60 Million per year.
Of course, I don't know who you would get to officiate a compe ion like that.
ITA. the length of the season is why so many players breakdown and why so many are less than 100% in the playoffs.
i also think the 7 game playoff series are ridiculously stupid too. no playoff series should be more than 5 games....but we know money is the driver behind the long season and playoff schedule.
I agree completely. Generally I like to keep politics out of sports debates, but it's gotten to the point now where it just isn't possible anymore. I can't fault Childress for doing what he's doing. And if he was a businessman, a computer analyst, a nurse, or an electrician and got the chance to live in a really interesting european city and get a hefty pay increase, I don't think many people would criticize him for it. American sports fans will now just have to get used to a situation that euro-fans have been dealing with for decades now-- watching their favorite players leave to chase the bigger payday. And if this trend continues to accelerate, it seems likely that European basketball will catch up with the NBA in terms of talent within the next decade. I imagine that some Euro billionaire is scheming right now to outbid everybody for LeBron. It would be much bigger than Beckham coming to America. Would LeBron go to Europe for a year if someone offered 30 million? 35 mil?
If the season was shorter, the 7 game playoff series wouldn't be as bad as far as wear an tear. I believe it's still overkill, but wouldn't seem as rigorous. 5, 5, 7, 7 would be okay.
I talked to a guy from Barcelona recently who is a big hoops fan and he said that is a big topic of discussion among european players. To many Europeans, Americans are people who work incessantly-- long hours, no mid afternoon siestas or breaks, short vacations, etc.-- and they view the NBA in the same way. In Europe, most teams play twice a week. It's a much lighter schedule, which naturally makes the chances of sustaining injuries smaller, too.
Haha well it was no mystery Childress was an underachiever. Maybe now he can play at his level and be a star.
No, you are wrong about Swiss banks too. U.S. citizens are required to pay taxes on their income, and failure to do so is a crime - in the U.S. I don't give a what the Swiss position is. You think you can sell drugs here and be immune from prosecution, as long as you put the money into a Swiss account? Not if you get caught. You would be prosecuted for the drugs, AND the tax evasion. (In case you didn't know, "income" from illegal activities is still subject to taxation in the U.S.) And since everyone knows about basketball salaries, getting caught is kind of a no-brainer.
I'm not sure if we extradite over tax evasion, but the first time he came back to the States, he would be arrested. U.S. citizens remain subject to our laws. That's sort of the price we pay for retaining the benefits of being U.S. citizens while living abroad. (And the benefits are formidable.)
Why not do some research on the Chinese tax code, and figure out how much Yao is making, net of taxes. Then go report to some Rockets fans. On a Rockets forum. Or go offer to blow Barry's agent for getting him to sign in Houston. Something useful.
The contract being reported is the money he will earn and keep. The team has also agree to pay all taxes on his earnings so he will clear 7mil pr year.
What with that first sentence of yours it's a wonder how they didn't learn anything from you.
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