View Poll Results: Who won the debate?

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  • John McCain

    32 34.78%
  • Barack Obama

    44 47.83%
  • Jim Lehrer

    15 16.30%
  • Everyone is now dumber for having listened to it. May God have mercy on our souls.

    17 18.48%
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    If you think Obama or McCain is going into this debate trying to actually "win" the debate you're a fool. That's not the point of these debates anymore. It's all about shoring up your weaknesses amongst the voters you are seeking to get. For Obama this was about him looking Presidential and less of a risk to Independent voters. That's why he didn't make so much of an effort to dismantle McCain in this debate.

    He certainly could have though if he chose to.
    Exactly. Obama needs to show he can be Commander in Chief. McCain needs to show he can connect with the middle class. Obama did a great job. McCain not so much. Now McCain certainly made some good points, and he really scored with that Ahmaninjedad (damn can't spell his name for ) jab, but Obama knew it's not about winning over the pundits, it's shoring up his weaknesses.

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    Ahmanijedad is not the supreme ruler of Iran...Khamanei is. Obama made that point very well.
    I know...I thought that was hilarious, he brought it up as if he was saying that was the guy we should try to negotiate with...that guy is even worse.

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    In terms of the debate, McCain probably won IMHO. But clearly based on the polling done after the debate he didn't win amongst Independents. This is the crucial point, Independents and swing voters aren't looking at the debates the same way we are.

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    I know...I thought that was hilarious, he brougth it up as if he was saying that was the guy we should try to negotiate with...that guy is even worse.
    Bomb BOmb BOmb Bomb BOmb Iran!!!!

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    I know...I thought that was hilarious, he brought it up as if he was saying that was the guy we should try to negotiate with...that guy is even worse.
    People talk about Ahmanijaded so much, it would be like Iranians talking about Nancy Pelosi.

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    Then there are a bunch of stupid undecideds out there...Obama didn't know . Half the time he copied McCain's answer and the other times McCain showed a much more detailed insight into what is actually going on in Iraq, Afhganistan and Pakistan, not to mention Georgia...and exposed Obama as pretending to be an expert on places he's never actually been.

    @#%#$ I never realized how easily Americans can be suckered by a slick talking laywer that never actually answers any damn questions.



    PS: Anyone that think Achmajenna asshole can be negotiated with is an idiot....I don't give a if this guy agrees to every Pre-condition you want...he'll be lying. This dude is Yassir Arafat, Saddam Hussein, Castro...

    Any attempt to at a civil discourse with this guy is going to be taken as a sign of weakness and fear.


    Could you have negotiated with Hitler?

    No...


    This guy is further gone than Hitler ever was.
    I never would have thought that a loose republican vagina would have turned whottt so far that he would compare ahmedinijad with hitler, then intimate that ahmedinijad is worse.
    Never.

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    I know...I thought that was hilarious, he brought it up as if he was saying that was the guy we should try to negotiate with...that guy is even worse.
    Khomeni has actually said via his press relations man (the ONLY man who ever talks for him in any news outlet) that he is open to working with americans, something Ahmedinijad has never even come close to saying.

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    I never would have thought that a loose republican vagina would have turned whottt so far that he would compare ahmedinijad with hitler, then intimate that ahmedinijad is worse.
    Never.
    So Pres Ahmedinijad's comments about wanting to whipe Israel off the face of the earth wasn't bad?

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    So Pres Ahmedinijad's comments about wanting to whipe Israel off the face of the earth wasn't bad?
    The Iranians say that for domestic consumption. It's like a red meat speech at a political convention, denouncing the "evil Zionist en y" always plays well at home. The Iranians ARE rational, they'll never attacK Israel with nukes.

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    This is a bull election. Now I am only pissed off that that loose Palin is actually going to be our president if McCain kicks the bucket. I know I've joked about this before, but I am serious now. We really are ed if McCain dies. Now, as an American, my entire concern is that McCain does not die while he is in office.

    See I get the exact oppos e vibe..I get the feeling that any foreign leader is going to be in so far over their heads against Palin that it won't even be funny. She is totally ruthless against her enemies, in a way men can't even conceive of.

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    See I get the exact oppos e vibe..I get the feeling that any foreign leader is going to be in so far over their heads against Palin that it won't even be funny. She is totally ruthless against her enemies, in a way men can't even conceive of.
    Palin vs. Putin is like the Spurs versus Lincoln High School

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    Palin vs. Putin is like the Spurs versus Lincoln High School
    What are you talking about? Do you seriously think Putin would try to paint her into a corner or twist her words as badly as Charlie Gibson or Katie Couric?

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    Khomeni has actually said via his press relations man (the ONLY man who ever talks for him in any news outlet) that he is open to working with americans, something Ahmedinijad has never even come close to saying.
    Asshole is insane...it's no act with that guy. That guy is a terrorist...in the truest sense of the word.

    Khameni is worse...he is never going to give up his throne for any sort of Democratic reform, and he is never going to move away from fundamentalist Islam. Iran will continue to be an oppressive hole as long as he is in power.

    He's the reason Khatami never produced any positives with the US.

    He's the reason asshole is in power.

    We will never gain anything by negotiating with these guys. We will never gain a single thing in negotiations with them. Anyone that says we will is naive...including McCain.

    They both need to be dead. ASAP.

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    What are you talking about? Do you seriously think Putin would try to paint her into a corner or twist her words as badly as Charlie Gibson or Katie Couric?
    It was in response to whottt's assertion that Palin would totally dominate foreign leaders. She can't even handle questions from hack journalists. Putin would run circles around her

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    What are you talking about? Do you seriously think Putin would try to paint her into a corner or twist her words as badly as Charlie Gibson or Katie Couric?
    Attempting to get elected with the media undermining you and negotiating with foreign leaders are two entirely different things.

    Not the same thing at all...

    Palin is much more ruthless than Putin is...you just don't see it....and neither will Putin.

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    It was in response to whottt's assertion that Palin would totally dominate foreign leaders. She can't even handle questions from hack journalists. Putin would run circles around her
    It's not the same thing...not the same game. It's not the same goals, not the same payoff, not the same penalties.

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    whottt has totally jumped the shark on Palin.

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    Findog thinks winning the popular vote is the same thing as foreign policy.

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    Findog thinks winning the popular vote is the same thing as foreign policy.
    I tremble for my country at the thought of Palin conducting high-level diplomatic discussions with foreign leaders. Not so with Obama.

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    I tremble for my country at the thought of Palin conducting high-level diplomatic discussions with foreign leaders. Not so with Obama.

    You also begin every year thinking the Mavs will win a le and thought Jason Kidd for Devin Harris was a positive.


    Trust me...you are far more detatched from reality than I am.

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    You also begin every year thinking the Mavs will win a le and thought Jason Kidd for Devin Harris was a positive.


    Trust me...you are far more detatched from reality than I am.
    Mavs will get the sixth seed and lose in the first round again this year. Go back to the archives and see what I said about the Kidd trade up until it publicly fell apart. I did not support it. The Mavs season after the Kidd trade played out exactly the way I said it would.

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    Mavs will get the sixth seed and lose in the first round again this year. Go back to the archives and see what I said about the Kidd trade up until it publicly fell apart. I did not support it.

    I don't need to look...I argued with you about it. I know what you said, and I know what I said.

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    I don't need to look...I argued with you about it. I know what you said, and I know what I said.
    You argued that DeSagana Diop was the second coming of Bill Russell and Devin Harris was the new Oscar Robertson, and they provided crucial matchup advantages against the Spurs. I wouldn't disagree with the latter half of that statement. I was firmly against the Kidd trade. When it publicly fell apart, I felt it had to go through for the purpose of team morale. After that, being a Mavs fan, I was rooting for the team to make lemonade out of lemons.

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    ahmedinijad with hitler, then intimate that ahmedinijad is worse.
    Never.

    Hmmm...in current Iran:


    They torture people.
    They kill them for changing religions.
    They kill them for being gay.
    They kill them for speaking out.
    They kill them for being raped.
    They kill them for commiting adultry.

    They execute children.


    They did it even when they had a guy that was an extreme liberal by their standards.


    I want you to tell me what Hitler would do that would shock them?

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    Hmmm...in current Iran:


    They torture people.
    So do we.

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