McCain's attacks fuel dangerous hatred

[KenMcCoy]

That circus ends on November 4th, when Obama gets 52% of the popular vote and 300+ Electoral Votes.

That my friends will just be the beginning of the circus...

[Crookshanks]

This thread is so pathetic it's laughable. You libs complain about McCain supporters being hateful and try to make us believe all of you are sweet and kind and never say anything mean.

You libs on this board are the most mean, vicious, hate-filled people I've ever come across. Boutons never makes a post about conservatives that doesn't include mean, crude and often obscene language. Findog is so offensive I put him on ignore!

It wouldn't matter if we had a video showing Obama throwing a bomb - you'd still defend him. You're irrational in your hatred for all things conservative. You certainly give credence to the notion that liberalism is a mental disorder!

I look at the threads in this forum and they just make me sick. I'm done with this forum - there's no reason to even post in here because it won't make any difference. I truly fear for this country if people like you libs in here prevail and vote Obama into the White House. Not even God will help us then!

[clambake]

This thread is so pathetic it's laughable. You libs complain about McCain supporters being hateful and try to make us believe all of you are sweet and kind and never say anything mean.

You libs on this board are the most mean, vicious, hate-filled people I've ever come across. Boutons never makes a post about conservatives that doesn't include mean, crude and often obscene language. Findog is so offensive I put him on ignore!

It wouldn't matter if we had a video showing Obama throwing a bomb - you'd still defend him. You're irrational in your hatred for all things conservative. You certainly give credence to the notion that liberalism is a mental disorder!

I look at the threads in this forum and they just make me sick. I'm done with this forum - there's no reason to even post in here because it won't make any difference. I truly fear for this country if people like you libs in here prevail and vote Obama into the White House. Not even God will help us then!

does anybody else get a kick out of cookies rants?

[Cry Havoc]

LOL @ this my friend. We all know how this little game is played. McCain doesn't do soemthing, you all bash him for not doing it and say you'd have so much respect for him if he did do it. When in reality, whatever he does he will be bashed by said people. It's weak and tired out. McCain is a lost cause, at this point I don't care what he does or does not do.

I don't regret I am not part of. oooooohh I condemn them, all is right in the world now for I have condemned them! It pains me to have lost respect from someone I do not know, will never know, do not care to know. Plus it's just politics. I'm just passing time.

Really? Then why do you even post here? You just declined to state that the actions of the supporters in the McCain-Palin campaign are unacceptable.

First, you stated that liberals had been doing the same thing, but were unable to provide any evidence. You even resorted to using the classic "find it yourself" defense. You then claimed it's Obama's fault that people are calling for his assassination.

Then you claimed "it's only a few" who are acting this way, which is kind of interesting in itself: If you consider their behavior acceptable, why does the number of people matter? Why would that even enter into your argument?

When ALL of these points have been refuted, you then stated (to paraphrase), "Well they went after Palin so it's ok!" Which, again, is interesting considering that you are calling the liberals out for having a thin skin. You then even mocked yourself by offering a random hyperbole about Palin. Basically what your position boils down to is that calling for Obama's assassination is okay because one person on this forum called her a moose and thousands of media outlets and political analysts have been questioning her ability to ascend to the 2nd highest office in the land.

Now, at last, your defense (d)evolved into, "Well they aren't me, I'm just a poster on the forum, so why should I care?" To which I can only ask you why you're on this board in the first place. You seem to have no problems taking a position about everything else, but this is out of your sphere of influence, so you're not going to comment further on it? Sorry, I didn't realize that you were using your position on other threads to influence U.S. politics at large. This is a forum. It's for certain things... you know, like discussing the issue. If you don't want to discuss the issue, why post to this thread? Why even click it? Why be on forums at all?

[hitmanyr2k]

I have no doubt if Obama or Biden heard one of their supporters scream "terrorist" or "kill him" in reference to John McCain (or Sarah Palin) they would call that person out and denounce their comments on the spot...Biden especially.

The McCain camp are just letting their poor character show through by letting these kind of comments go unchecked. Just the cherry on top of one of the most idiotic campaigns I've ever seen run for an "experienced" candidate.

[Findog]

Findog is so offensive I put him on ignore!

[clambake]

can't you just see crooky.....clutching her bible......reaching high to the sky.....screaming "Oh Dear God"?

[Hook Dem]

Where are the examples of Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi whipping up liberals into a frenzy against President Bush and inciting hatred?

<crickets chirping>

Guess you forgot about the hate speech Pelosi gave right before the house voted the first time on the bailout! Classic example of how liberals only remember what they want to!

[hitmanyr2k]

Guess you forgot about the hate speech Pelosi gave right before the house voted the first time on the bailout! Classic example of how liberals only remember what they want to!

Show us where Pelosi tried to tie any Republican to a terrorist and then stood by and did nothing when supporters yelled "kill him" or called that person a terrorist. If you can't then just stfu because you don't have a point.

[KenMcCoy]

Not hatred I guess...

[Hook Dem]

Show us where Pelosi tried to tie any Republican to a terrorist and then stood by and did nothing when supporters yelled "kill him" or called that person a terrorist. If you can't then just stfu because you don't have a point.

Uhhh...we're talking about hatred in case you haven't read the le. She DID go on a hatred speech against Bush and the Republicans. Don't tell me to shut up because I DO have a point!

[hitmanyr2k]

Uhhh...we're talking about hatred in case you haven't read the le. She DID go on a hatred speech against Bush and the Republicans. Don't tell me to shut up because I DO have a point!

Pelosi's partisan speech ranted on Bush's economic policies. That kind of goes on every single day in Washington. She didn't attempt to tie any Republican to a terrorist. She didn't go after anyone's character trying to paint that person as "dangerous". She didn't incite anyone to yell "kill him". You don't have a point and if you can't see the difference you're dumber than a sack of hammers.

[KenMcCoy]

And of course class warfare isn't hatred either right? Because rich peolple can be black or white it must not count.

[hitmanyr2k]

And of course class warfare isn't hatred either right? Because rich peolple can be black or white it must not count.

See my post above. The same thing applies.

[LakeShow]

Former governor Milliken backs away from McCain

by Pat S enbarger | The Grand Rapids Press Friday October 10, 2008, 6:57 AM


Former Republican Gov. William Milliken

GRAND RAPIDS -- He endorsed John McCain in the presidential primary, but now former Republican Gov. William Milliken is expressing doubts about his party's nominee.

"He is not the McCain I endorsed," said Milliken, reached at his Traverse City home Thursday. "He keeps saying, 'Who is Barack Obama?' I would ask the question, 'Who is John McCain?' because his campaign has become rather disappointing to me.

"I'm disappointed in the tenor and the personal attacks on the part of the McCain campaign, when he ought to be talking about the issues."

Milliken, a lifelong Republican, is among some past leaders from the party's moderate wing voicing reservations and, in some cases, opposition to McCain's candidacy.

Press Photo/Paul L. Newby IILincoln Chafee, a former Republican senator from Rhode Island, announces his support for Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama on Thursday morning at Obama's Grand Rapids campaign headquarters.

During a stop in Grand Rapids on Thursday, Lincoln Chafee, a former Republican U.S. senator from Rhode Island, said he's voting for Obama and urging others to do likewise.

McCain campaigned for Chafee's unsuccessful re-election bid in 2006, but Chafee said he is concerned McCain has swung to the right, a divisive strategy that could make it difficult for him to govern.

"That's not my kind of Republicanism," said Chafee, who now calls himself an independent. "I saw what Bush and Cheney did. They came in with a (budget) surplus and a stable world, and look what's happened now. In eight short years they've taken one peaceful and prosperous world, and they've torn it into tatters."

As for McCain's choice of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin for his running mate, "there's no question she's totally unqualified," Chafee said.

He had similar reservations about Obama's lack of experience, but said the Democrat's handling of the campaign convinced him he's ready to lead.
Chafee said he has spoken with several other moderate Republican leaders, and "there are a whole lot of us deserting."

Phil Arthurhultz

One of them is Phil Arthurhultz, a former Republican state senator from Whitehall, who was traveling the state with Chafee to drum up support for Obama.

Bob Eleveld is a former Kent County Republican chairman who led McCain's West Michigan campaign in 2000. This year, he has remained mum unless asked.

"I'm not supporting either of them at this point," he said. "Suffice it to say there are a number of people who have been strong Republicans in the past, including party chairs, who feel as I do. "He declined to name them.
In the past, McCain was more of a moderate known for his straight talk, Eleveld said.

"I think the straight talk is gone," he said, describing himself as a member of the party's moderate wing. "I think he's pandering to the Christian right. That's some straight talk from me."

Whether they represent a widespread movement or a few disenchanted members in the Republican Party is unclear.

"I don't think for one minute John McCain has violated the trust we put in him," said Marge Byington Potter, a former chairwoman of the Kent County Commission, who calls herself a moderate Republican. "I think McCain understands people are in a situation that people are hurting terribly."
Milliken stopped short of saying he will vote for Obama, but said he differs with McCain on the Iraq war and his choice of Palin.

"I know John McCain is 72. In my book, that's quite young," said Milliken, 86, Michigan's longest-serving governor. But he added, "What if she were to become president of the United States? The idea, to me, is quite disturbing, if not appalling.

"Increasingly, the party is moving toward rigidity, and I don't like that. I think Gerald Ford would hold generally the same view I'm holding on the direction of the Republican Party."

http://www.mlive.com/grpress/news/in...ken_backs.html

[Oh, Gee!!]

I truly fear for this country if people like you libs in here prevail and vote Obama into the White House. Not even God will help us then!

what about the present? does the present day provide you with any trepidation?

[Findog]

Guess you forgot about the hate speech Pelosi gave right before the house voted the first time on the bailout! Classic example of how liberals only remember what they want to!

How ing stupid are you? It says a lot that you equate that with race-baiting, and McCain and Palin not calling out their supporters for calling Obama a terrorist or saying "Kill him!"

[Findog]

Lincoln Chafee is a guy who 20 years ago would've been considered a very conservative Republican. It says quite a bit about how far the GOP has lurched to the far right and how much they've given in to the Christian nutball wing of their party that he feels more comfortable supporting Obama.

[KenMcCoy]

I'm pretty sure that this doesn't count as hatred either...

After I spoke and thanked the fraternity and their members, Rev. Eric Lee, pres. and CEO of Southern Christian Leadership Conference of greater Los Angeles, was introduced as the key note speaker.

He began his speech by thanking Jesus for Obama, who is going to be the leader of the world. He continued by referring to other leaders Like Dr. King, being that this was the moment of celebrating Dr. King's spirit on the anniversary of his death, and Malcolm X.

It was right after the mention of Malcolm X that he looked right at me and started talking about the African American children who are suffering because of the “JEWS” that have featured them as rapists and murderers. He spoke of a Jewish Rabbi, and then corrected himself to say "What other kind of Rabbis are there, but “JEWS”. He told how this Rabbi came to him to say that he would like to bring the AA community and the Jewish community together. “NO, NO, NO,!!!!” he shouted into the crowd, we are not going to come together. “The Jews have made money on us in the music business and we are the entertainers, and they are economically enslaving us.”

He continued as to how now the salvation has come and the gates have open for African Americans to come together behind Barack Obama, because now is the time to show them (meaning the Jews).

He continued to speak about “White supremacy” vs. the talents and visionaries in the core of African Americans. He demeaned being given freedom, by saying “To what?” to a country that kills women and children.

http://www.seraphicpress.com/archive...emitic_oba.php

[Findog]

Hey, here's some argula-eating liberal that served in Reagan's Administration weighing in:

"One of the most striking things we've seen in the last few day, we have seen it at the Palin rallies and we saw it at the McCain rally today," said David Gergen, appearing on Anderson Cooper 360 Thursday evening. "And we saw it to a considerable degree during the rescue package legislation. There is a free-floating sort of whipping-around anger that could really lead to some violence. And I think we're not far from that."

Guess he's just some whiny, overly sensitive liberal .

[KenMcCoy]

Ageism doesn't count as hatred either since the people they are targeting are too old to fight back I guess...

Appearing on This Week with George Stephanopolous today, prominent Obama supporter Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-MO) said that Americans should be "uncomfortable" with Alaska Governor Sarah Palin as Sen. John McCain's Vice-President because of McCain's advanced age and history of cancer.

http://news.aol.com/political-machin...ns-age-cancer/

[Findog]

Ageism doesn't count as hatred either since the people they are targeting are too old to fight back I guess...

Uh, no it doesn't, since POTUS is unique in the physical and mental rigors it imposes on its occupants. And it's an issue since McCain is a 72 year old cancer survivor, and his running mate is grossly unqualified.

Do you agree with the sentiments expressed in the videos I posted on the first page of this thread?

[KenMcCoy]

Hey, here's some argula-eating liberal that served in Reagan's Administration weighing in:



Guess he's just some whiny, overly sensitive liberal .

I've seen him speak and I agree with your analysis.

[hitmanyr2k]

I'm pretty sure that this doesn't count as hatred either...

Who is this guy? Is he apart of the United States government? Was he at an Obama rally speaking for him? Did Obama stand idly by and watch him say this? If not then who gives a ? You're taking from a blog with this he said, she said crap and Obama wasn't even there. You people are getting dumber by the minute.

[Findog]

I've seen him speak and I agree with your analysis.

Well, kudos to you. You're practically the first McCain supporter in this thread to say that garbage doesn't speak for you.