I don't see how this is good for our team.

[ChumpDumper]

New York only runs plays for Crawford and Marbury to break them. If Nazr gets a play run for him with the Spurs, it'll be his first this season.

[Jimcs50]

obviously Malik went to Jim to get his teeth straightened.

No other reason to understand the man love.


look at his game by game numbers in January.

Unfreakin real.

Folks, the Spurs got a in of a steal.

TPark, you sure are always concerned about my sexual orientation.
Just because I am loyal to my team's players, that does not mean I have man love, as you call it, for them.

You never ever hear me saying mean things about my players on my teams...I might kid around in chat and say someone sucks, but I never ask them to be cut, or say that they need to be benched, shot, etc...I stay in their corner no matter what.

Rose is one of my all time favorite players. Nobody ever tried harder to win or play hard every game than he did. Yeah, he made mistakes, but that is because he was trying too hard a lot of times, not because he was trying to be a showboat. He was always hustling, more than any Spur not named Manu.

[1Parker1]

TParkRose is one of my all time favorite players. Nobody ever tried harder to win or play hard every game than he did. Yeah, he made mistakes, but that is because he was trying too hard a lot of times, not because he was trying to be a showboat. He was always hustling, more than any Spur not named Manu.

I feel like my Dog just got moved to the farmhouse

Seriously though, as upset as I am about the Malik trade, I understand that it's business and I can see where Jim and R2D are comming from. The thing that just has me pissed is the way Pop has treated him over the past two years. I just think that he didn't get the respect that he deserved. Who knows how the new guy will be?

But mark my words, come playoffs/finals time, the Spurs at some point will miss having Malik's energy, rebounding, and at times even scoring.

Good Luck, Malik. I hope you get lots of playing time in NY and win 6th man of the year. Prove those naysayers wrong!!!!!

[RobinsontoDuncan]

I was being sarcastic

yes i know jim, i may be on vicadin but i can still get pick up on a thing or two.

BTW this stuff is working, so thnx

[Jimcs50]

yes i know jim, i may be on vicadin but i can still get pick up on a thing or two.

BTW this stuff is working, so thnx

I am glad you are feeling better. Vicodin ES is good stuff. Also do not forget to not rinse and spit, and do not drink carbonated beverages.

[GoldToe]

Malik....the Charlie Hustle of the NBA.

[indianspur]

maybe he can open a philly's famous in nyc....

[GoSpurs21]

Malik....the Charlie Hustle of the NBA.

I miss Malik too. Malik = charlie hustle of NBA because Malik will never be in the HoF. Malik in no way had the numbers to be equated with Pete Roses in baseball.

Besides everyone forgets that Malik just got paid $3M today!!!!
I dont know about you, but that kind of coin is sweet. Does anyone know if this is in addition to his remaining contract?

[Dalamar_the_Dark]

Guys guys. This move is great for a number of reasons. First. Malik isnt going to get back into pop's rotation. He played only cause he needed to be shopped.

second is that Malik's contract is bogging us down. we have 3 big contracts. Timmys, Parkers and Ginobilis. we need to get rid of roses contract if we are going to be flexible in the long run. so if dumb thomas is going to oblige and eat malik's contract let him. dont think anyone else is going to bite.

third which is the most important. think next season is the last season whereby we control scola's rights (correct me if im wrong). think they made this move so that we can sign scola to a small contract. cause no point having 2 undersized PFs on the same team.

fourth is Nazr is a pretty decent backup. he can board and score some. he will help short term. then we will see what happens after 2006. if not he leaves as free agent. he wont be a long term liability unlike malik.

[RobinsontoDuncan]

you're wrong about Scola, as long as he is playing pro basketball somwhere else and is under contract we retain his rights, and scola isn't very bright because he stupidly signed a huge deal until like 2007 with a 2 million dollar buy-out. Bright guy if he really wants to play in the L huh?

Second league rules state that player must be worth i think at leats 85% salary wise the player they ware being swaped for, so this frees up no short term cap space at all.

[travis2]

Second league rules state that player must be worth i think at leats 85% salary wise the player they ware being swaped for, so this frees up no short term cap space at all.

Total trade values must be within 15%...IF the team is over the cap, which both the Spurs and the Knicks are. Had either team not been over the cap, the team under could have absorbed more salary than just the 15% difference.

The trade value numbers only apply to this season...not the entire contract values. So yes, absolutely this frees up some short term salary. Mohammed is on contract the remainder of this season and then next season...and that's it. He comes off the books. Rose has two more seasons BEYOND that on his contract.

[RobinsontoDuncan]

either way, we still will be over the cap this year.

[travis2]

either way, we still will be over the cap this year.

This year was not a problem. It was the 3-4 years downstream that were the problem.

[Kori Ellis]

The Spurs will be over the cap for about the next five years. This trade only effects how much they'll be over the cap.

[RobinsontoDuncan]

will we be able to sign Jokovatas and Scola, Kori?

[Kori Ellis]

The Spurs will have the MLE to sign Scola (but he probably won't use up all of it). They already had the MLE before trade. They also have Devin's Early Bird's Rights to sign him.

I haven't heard any talk of Javtokas lately.

[maxpower]

Say Nazr gives us his career average...what would be a contract the spurs would give him as opposed to what he would get from others in the league.

[ducks]

if spur fans want to be mad at spurs for trading rose
it was DUNCAN who wanted rose to get the long term deal

[Kori Ellis]

if spur fans want to be mad at spurs for trading rose
it was DUNCAN who wanted rose to get the long term deal

No, it was the Spurs. They were trying to keep him from signing with the Lakers when they gave him that contract.

[mrblonde17]

$21 million dollars freed up for the summer!! Who are the big free agents out there?

[RobinsontoDuncan]

hey blondie, scroll up please.

[Kori Ellis]

$21 million dollars freed up for the summer!! Who are the big free agents out there?

There's not 21M freed up. The Spurs still have no cap room to sign free agents. They are over the cap.

[RobinsontoDuncan]

Kori do you know if the spurs are high on Jackovotas or not and if they plan on bringing him here at all?

[Kori Ellis]

I don't know. I haven't heard any talk of Javtokas since last year.

[RobinsontoDuncan]

well i dont think horry will be back next year so i would really be intersted in how the spurs are going to sign Scola, Brown, and another big with just the MLE. I have seen some footage of Jokovatas and he looks good, i think we might let brown walk.