Ill. Gov. arrested in Obama successor probe

[Oh, Gee!!]

so..........how is Obama guilty of any misdeeds?

[Yonivore]

so..........how is Obama guilty of any misdeeds?

I don't know that he is but, y'all's insistence that we just leave him alone is laughable in the early stages of what appears to be a legitimate investigation into the cesspool of Chicago politics.

A cesspool Obama has been swimming in for his entire political life.

[Oh, Gee!!]

I don't know that he is

end thread. I win.

[Yonivore]

Tell me this. If Obama is somehow involved in a crime, would you want it discovered now or after he's inaugurated?

Because, if it's after he's inaugurated, you're in for a long four years.

[Yonivore]

end thread. I win.

Really? What'd you win?

[George Gervin's Afro]

Tell me this. If Obama is somehow involved in a crime, would you want it discovered now or after he's inaugurated?

Because, if it's after he's inaugurated, you're in for a long four years.

What crime?

Something tells me that you will never let this go. Obama has said he had nothing to do with it so at this point that's all we have to go on. Anyone who is truly trying to get to the truth would have to wonder what his motive would be? Obama is about to President yet somehow the right wingers want us to believe that Obama was involved in something illegal. What would Obama's motive be to get involved with picking his successor?

[Yonivore]

What crime?

Something tells me that you will never let this go. Obama has said he had nothing to do with it so at this point that's all we have to go on. Anyone who is truly trying to get to the truth would have to wonder what his motive would be? Obama is about to President yet somehow the right wingers want us to believe that Obama was involved in something illegal. What would Obama's motive be to get involved with picking his successor?

I guess we'll have to wait an see.

[Oh, Gee!!]

Really? What'd you win?

the point. i win the point.

[Yonivore]

the point. i win the point.

Well, goodie for you. So, if it turns out Obama is involved somehow, do you have to give up the trophy?

[ChumpDumper]

Too bad for Yoni there is nothing here to pin on Obama.

Fox News' reporting that his chief of staff designate narced this guy out is pretty interesting.

[Oh, Gee!!]

Well, goodie for you. So, if it turns out Obama is involved somehow, do you have to give up the trophy?

I'll buy you a Pepsi.

[Yonivore]

I'll buy you a Pepsi.

Thanks!

[Viva Las Espuelas]

i don't think obama personally is involved, but someone on his team. either way, someone is going to sing like a boid(bird).

[Oh, Gee!!]

i don't think obama personally is involved, but someone on his team. either way, someone is going to sing like a boid(bird).

and what did someone on his team do?

[Yonivore]

Ruh Roh!

Ill. governor meeting with Obama today

Wednesday, November 05, 2008 at 10:39 a.m.


CHICAGO, ILL. -- Now that Barack Obama will be moving to the White House, his seat in the U.S. Senate representing Illinois will have to be filled.

That's one of Obama's first priorities today.

He's meeting with Governor Rod Blagojevich this afternoon in Chicago to discuss it.

Illinois law states that the governor chooses that replacement.

There's already been speculation about his selection...from Congressman Jesse Jackson, Jr. of Chicago's south side who co-chaired Obama's presidential campaign, to recently-retired state senate president Emil Jones, to the governor himself.

It's likely the governor will make his decision quickly so the new senator will get some seniority before newly-elected senators take office in January.

Part of the timing depends on when Obama officially vacates his senate seat.

KHQA's Alexis Hunt is speaking with Illinois Senator John Sullivan today about his thoughts on that replacement process, his time working with Obama in the state senate, and if there's a chance Sullivan might play a role in the Obama administration. Watch KHQA News at 5:00, 6:00 and 10:00 p.m. tonight to hear what he has to say.

Did that meeting not happen? Did KHQA misspeak?

[doobs]

It's funny. Obama detractors are foaming at the mouth, insisting that Obama be thoroughly investigated and caught in a lie. The fact that this guy is a Democrat and an elected official in Illinois, coupled with the issue of Obama's vacant Senate seat, is enough for Obama's detractors to label him a snake.

Obama supporters are acting like their chosen one is simply above it all, and no controversy--whether it's Ayers, Wright, Rezko, or Blog-whatever-his-name-is--will change their minds. They seem to think Obama somehow managed to rise to the top of Illinois politics through honesty, intelligence, hard work, and responsibility. As if Saint Obama made it in spite of Illinois' dirty politics.

Obama is not a snake, and he's not a saint. He's just a damn dirty politician. Get over it. America elected a damn dirty politician who will lie, "triangulate", hedge, bend, and say just about anything to get elected. In all likelihood, he's probably just a shade less creepy and corrupt than the Clintons. There are worse things.

[ChumpDumper]

Too bad for Yoni Blagojevich is on tape saying Obama wasn't going to give him anything.

It's fun watching him get so wound up. It will be even better when his great hopes for a governmental crisis come to naught.

[Anti.Hero]

[Yonivore]

It's funny. Obama detractors are foaming at the mouth, insisting that Obama be thoroughly investigated and caught in a lie. The fact that this guy is a Democrat and an elected official in Illinois, coupled with the issue of Obama's vacant Senate seat, is enough for Obama's detractors to label him a snake.

Sad commentary on Chicago politics, ain't it?

I'm not foaming at the mouth insisting anything. I'm perfectly willing to wait and see what the investigation turns up. Is is wrong for me to suspect Obama is involved in something? I think I'm en led to my opinion.

Obama supporters are acting like their chosen one is simply above it all, and no controversy--whether it's Ayers, Wright, Rezko, or Blog-whatever-his-name-is--will change their minds. They seem to think Obama somehow managed to rise to the top of Illinois politics through honesty, intelligence, and responsibility. As if Saint Obama made it in spite of Illinois' dirty politics.

Nice call doobs; and I'm accused of being in the tank for Bush.

Obama is not a snake, and he's not a saint.

I don't think you, me, or anyone else on this board can make that claim. We don't know anything about the guy except what's been reported.

He's just a damn dirty politician.

Define dirty. Criminal dirty?

Get over it. America elected a damn dirty politician who will lie, "triangulate", hedge, bend, and say just about anything to get elected. In all likelihood, he's probably just a shade less creepy and corrupt than the Clintons. There are worse things.

If we keep accepting politics as usual, we'll keep getting politics as usual.

I think there's a chance he's less creepy, but more sinister, than the Clintons ever hoped to be.

[ChumpDumper]

Really Yoni.

Put your cards on the table.

Tell us what you think Obama's involvement is here.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Too bad for Yoni Blagojevich is on tape saying Obama wasn't going to give him anything.

hmm. so how did he know that he wasn't going to get anything? did he just think this up? you know kinda like you saying that

Chances are pretty good Obama was briefed on the investigation soon after the election.

did he get it from your source?

[balli]

hmm. so how did he know that he wasn't going to get anything? did he just think this up? you know kinda like you saying that

I suggest you review the thread.

[Yonivore]

hmm. so how did he know that he wasn't going to get anything? did he just think this up? you know kinda like you saying that

Not only that, he was pissed about it which tells me that someone on Obama's staff was at least in some conversation with Blogojevich on the matter. No?

did he get it from your source?

Really! Who would be stupid enough to brief Obama on an investigation that could conceivably involve him or his staff.

I do believe him when he says he didn't know anything about the investigation until Blogojevich was arrested. That, I do believe.

[ChumpDumper]

hmm. so how did he know that he wasn't going to get anything? did he just think this up? you know kinda like you saying that

He said it. It's entirely plausible that the governor asked one of Obama's people about a payoff and it didn't even get to Obama himself.

did he get it from your source?

I have no sources except Blagojevich's words. I am as free to speculate on them as you are so anxious to.

Now you tell me what you think Obama's involvement is.

[ChumpDumper]

Not only that, he was pissed about it which tells me that someone on Obama's staff was at least in some conversation with Blogojevich on the matter. No?

I wouldn't doubt it. It's probably how the whole investigation got started.

Really! Who would be stupid enough to brief Obama on an investigation that could conceivably involve him or his staff.

If Obama and his staff initiated the investigation, it makes perfect sense. It's possible that if the Emanuel initiated it, Obama might not be involved in any way at all. That would really suck for you, wouldn't it?

I do believe him when he says he didn't know anything about the investigation until Blogojevich was arrested. That, I do believe.

Cherry picking what you believe is your specialty.