Would you track your kids via GPS?

[Blake]

I can say any damn thing I want about anything under the sun, thank you much.

Youre absolutely right, you as a parent can put your children through whatever redundant bootcamp of childhood that you have been spoonfed to you by the parental protection agencies looking for donation dollars and a rating-driven media whose sole purpose in fear-mongering is ratings.

, you could even dress your soon-to-be-ridiculed child in a rubber suit for the infinitesimally small chance they might fall down while walking and hurt their precious selves.

But why stop there!

Why dont you put them in an climate controlled (heat/cold confluence), windowless room (UV rays cause cancer!) in your basement (going to need a de-humidifer) where you can sanitize their every meal (germs!) and home school them (kids with germs!) while also teaching them the importance of bike safety and stranger danger.

Or.....or maybe, just maybe....Sheesh I dont know....maybe you could....hmmmm, how to put this...

Maybe you could just go ahead and let them learn on their own. Like you did.

I dont know, I dont know....just an idea.

I mean, Bubble Boy was a stupid movie, but I am now seeing its relevance. Get over it. Half of childhood is learning thru "pain education". Fire is hot, ise water is cold, jumping off a building is a bad idea, dont play in the street, bike tricks are only cool when you land them, etc.

As for a GPS on your kids car, I dont hold the same belief. Obviously, I would never do that, but whatever. Makes sense. At least the chance of teenage death in a car accident is a number greater than ZERO.

Sheesh...

Im betting your favorite movie is 300.........just a hunch

[Molester]

So you'd make your kid wear a locater when with family?

I don't see why.

[Blake]

Which is why I didn't say they were related.

Thanks, though.

so you make "put it in perspective" posts that are unrelated for the of it.

gotcha.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

so you make "put it in perspective" posts that are unrelated for the of it.

gotcha.

In reference to another post that brought up the odds of this danger, which many believe is real, happening, I brought up something that isn't perceived as a danger yet is 10x as likely as happening.



Is this paint by post?

[Blake]

So you'd make your kid wear a locater when with family?

Every situation is different. "Family" can mean a whole lot of different things to different people.

But if my daughter goes to Disneyworld with Uncle Al and family, I think the GPS is not a bad idea at all.

My daughter is five and I have already taught her about people touching her in the wrong places and telling us.

Of course, according to DR, I should just throw her out there and let her learn the "touching rule" on her own.

Good Lord.

[Blake]

In reference to another post that brought up the odds of this danger, which many believe is real, happening, I brought up something that isn't perceived as a danger yet is 10x as likely as happening.



Is this paint by post?

why am I not surprised you dont get it

you could post 100000 other things that arent perceived as dangerous but actually are more dangerous and it would be equally pointless.

If the odds are one in a million that my kid ever gets kidnapped, but a wrist watch can increase those odds to one in a billion, then even a jeenyus such as yourself can see that it just might be worth the minimal effort.

[Winehole23]

Tracking your kids with a GPS may tend to preempt the development of personal integrity, while tacitly conveying mistrust. Not a road I'd like to go down.

Do it or don't do it. Your choice. Cars and little babies at least makes sense.

I didn't need it. Almost all of us didn't. I think there's damn few who actually do right now. The need is artificial. You don't gotta have a kiddie GPS.

Mostly it's a security blanket for parents, to help comfort them in their insecurity and powerlessness over their children.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

why am I not surprised you dont get it

you could post 100000 other things that arent perceived as dangerous but actually are more dangerous and it would be equally pointless.

If the odds are one in a million that my kid ever gets kidnapped, but a wrist watch can increase those odds to one in a billion, then even a jeenyus such as yourself can see that it just might be worth the minimal effort.

The wris ch is stupid because it can be taken off within seconds so why even bother discussing it.

If something was implanted into a wrist/hand/shoulder, then wouldn't this actually give an incentive for physical harm where one might not of existed?

The numbers would decrease, not increase in your scenario and I still think the need isn't there. In fact, I think it'd create a false sense of security for parents and do more harm than good. Parents need to look after their children more, not less, IMO.

[J.T.]

I thought the car GPS thing was complete and utter bull when 2Blonde talked about it in the summer and my opinion hasn't changed one bit. If it had happened to me, me and my friends would have made an event out of disabling it and then going for a spin around the neighborhood with a cigarette box filled with joints and a case of Budweiser while swerving frequently, knocking over mailboxes, and consistently speeding no less than 20 miles over the limit. My parents would have replaced it or fixed it, and the process would repeat again.

If I ever have children, it will probably be because it was an accident and the woman spent the abortion money on a new pair of shoes. I don't think kids should be allowed to do whatever they want, whenever they want, but if they aren't ing up in school and you don't walk in on them mainlining heroin or in bed with their boyfriend/girlfriend when you come home from work two hours earlier than you said you would, then cut them a ing break. It's just like...modifying human development to me. Everyone I know has stories about sneaking out of the house at night and going to do crazy with their friends. I guess this new teenager LOJACK put an end to that.

[Blake]

Tracking your kids with a GPS may tend to preempt the development of personal integrity, while tacitly conveying mistrust. Not a road I'd like to go down.

Do it or don't do it. Your choice. Cars and little babies at least makes sense.

I didn't need it. Almost all of us didn't. I think there's damn few who actually do right now. The need is artificial. You don't gotta have a kiddie GPS.

Mostly it's a security blanket for parents, to help comfort them in their insecurity and powerlessness over their children.

yeah, I pretty much agree. I'm most likely never gonna mess with any GPS thing for my kid. I think guys that use it on th golf course are worthless bags.

as for the GPS in the car, if my kid started doing things that ticked me off, I might start up with it.......but not initially.

[Blake]

The wris ch is stupid because it can be taken off within seconds so why even bother discussing it.

If something was implanted into a wrist/hand/shoulder, then wouldn't this actually give an incentive for physical harm where one might not of existed?

The numbers would decrease, not increase in your scenario and I still think the need isn't there. In fact, I think it'd create a false sense of security for parents and do more harm than good. Parents need to look after their children more, not less, IMO.

according to the original post, an alarm goes off if the wristband is removed.

again, there are situations such as traveling overseas, amusement parks, and a number of other scenarios where a GPS might be handy.

People that say "parents need to look after their kids more, not less" are right but usually have no kids and have no clue wtf they are talking about. It takes all of 3 seconds to turn around to have your kid(s) get into a world of trouble.

[2Blonde]

I thought the car GPS thing was complete and utter bull when 2Blonde talked about it in the summer and my opinion hasn't changed one bit. If it had happened to me, me and my friends would have made an event out of disabling it and then going for a spin around the neighborhood with a cigarette box filled with joints and a case of Budweiser while swerving frequently, knocking over mailboxes, and consistently speeding no less than 20 miles over the limit. My parents would have replaced it or fixed it, and the process would repeat again.

If I ever have children, it will probably be because it was an accident and the woman spent the abortion money on a new pair of shoes. I don't think kids should be allowed to do whatever they want, whenever they want, but if they aren't ing up in school and you don't walk in on them mainlining heroin or in bed with their boyfriend/girlfriend when you come home from work two hours earlier than you said you would, then cut them a ing break. It's just like...modifying human development to me. Everyone I know has stories about sneaking out of the house at night and going to do crazy with their friends. I guess this new teenager LOJACK put an end to that.

Replace it?!?! she'd lose her Freakin' car. It's not like we owe our children a car. That mentality must be the same one that thinks we should keep giving our kid's allowance when they do nothing to earn it or buy them designer clothes because they want it. Sorry, in my house you EARN things when you do things right and you lose them when screw up. I always love how people who have no kids always seem to know how badly we, who are parents, are ing up so badly. When you finally do screw up enough to become a parent, then we'll talk about this on your child's 16th birthday! When you have a child, you want better for them... not the same stupid ass that you or I did as teenagers. The population of the world has increased many times over since I was a teen, so driving buzzed 30 years ago meant the chances of a serious accident were significantly less due to the fact that fewer people were on the road. Pot is way more potent today than when I turned 16 in 1978. Most of the designer drugs were still just a little molecule of an idea in the brain of the kid down the street who spent way too much time in the garage, smoking pot,, dropping acid masturbating to daddy's Playboy's while listening to Gene Simmons full blast in the eight track.

And just b/c my daughter isn't mainlining heroin in bed with her boyfriend ( well at least I think not), doesn't mean I should be happy if she was on the honor roll but blowing every guy at school(I'm some what sure she's not doing that anymore).

BTW, a couple of weeks ago my daughter's car was rear-ended by another teenager who was texting. The difference with how my daughter handled this situation and the wreck this summer were like night & day. It's amazing how much easier it is to deal with these things when you know you weren't doing anything wrong. She realized that too.
Peace out.

[2Blonde]

Tracking your kids with a GPS may tend to preempt the development of personal integrity, while tacitly conveying mistrust. Not a road I'd like to go down.

Do it or don't do it. Your choice. Cars and little babies at least makes sense.

I didn't need it. Almost all of us didn't. I think there's damn few who actually do right now. The need is artificial. You don't gotta have a kiddie GPS.

Mostly it's a security blanket for parents, to help comfort them in their insecurity and powerlessness over their children.

Of course it's a security blanket. That's the whole point! I have no problem with a security blanket that tells me where my daughter might be, or at least give me a chance to find my daughter if god forbid she was car-jacked broken down somewhere or assaulted.

[Winehole23]

Of course it's a security blanket. That's the whole point! I have no problem with a security blanket that tells me where my daughter might be, or at least give me a chance to find my daughter if god forbid she was car-jacked broken down somewhere or assaulted.

I can understand making provision for worst-case type scenarios, especially where children are involved.

If the GPS never comes in handy the cost is minimal, but if you need it even once, it will have been more than worth it. I get that.


If it puts your mind at ease I get that too. It doesn't mine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD6bQ3DQSLA

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[ploto]

As long as these things are an augmentation and are not used as a replacement for parental responsibility then I have no problem with it. My main concern is parents having a false sense of security because of electronic devices.

[J.T.]

Replace it?!?! she'd lose her Freakin' car. It's not like we owe our children a car. That mentality must be the same one that thinks we should keep giving our kid's allowance when they do nothing to earn it or buy them designer clothes because they want it. Sorry, in my house you EARN things when you do things right and you lose them when screw up. I always love how people who have no kids always seem to know how badly we, who are parents, are ing up so badly. When you finally do screw up enough to become a parent, then we'll talk about this on your child's 16th birthday! When you have a child, you want better for them... not the same stupid ass that you or I did as teenagers. The population of the world has increased many times over since I was a teen, so driving buzzed 30 years ago meant the chances of a serious accident were significantly less due to the fact that fewer people were on the road. Pot is way more potent today than when I turned 16 in 1978. Most of the designer drugs were still just a little molecule of an idea in the brain of the kid down the street who spent way too much time in the garage, smoking pot,, dropping acid masturbating to daddy's Playboy's while listening to Gene Simmons full blast in the eight track.

For the most part I was just joking, Blondie. Parent your kids however you want to...as long as they love you back then you're doing something right. My mother (grew up in a divorced, single parent fam) was always really bad at following through with punishment. Usually I'd get grounded and then at night before bed she'd come say how sorry she was that she yelled at me and that I wasn't grounded anymore. Maybe that puts my comments in a better perspective since busting out the tool box and removing a GPS wouldn't have got me in a whole lot of trouble.

And just b/c my daughter isn't mainlining heroin in bed with her boyfriend ( well at least I think not), doesn't mean I should be happy if she was on the honor roll but blowing every guy at school(I'm some what sure she's not doing that anymore).

Well, you never know. She could be shooting it up between her toes so that she doesn't have track marks on her arms, like in that movie "Traffic". Ask her boyfriend to check her toes the next time your GPS tells you she's been parked outside his house for a few hours. That's probably a good sign that they're, well, you know...

BTW, a couple of weeks ago my daughter's car was rear-ended by another teenager who was texting. The difference with how my daughter handled this situation and the wreck this summer were like night & day. It's amazing how much easier it is to deal with these things when you know you weren't doing anything wrong. She realized that too.
Peace out.

Good for her. The last accident I got in was in 2005 and it was my fault for not checking my blind spot. Since then I've only been pull over once and no accidents.

[Darrin]

A satellite tracking device that will plot a child's location to within 10ft is being launched by a British firm.

The Nu.M8 digital watch uses GPS satellite technology like car sat nav systems.



The watch can be securely fastened to a child's wrist and will trigger an alert if forcibly removed. Parents can then track their children on a website.

Parents who text 'wru', or click 'where r you' on the secure website, will be able to see the child's location on Google maps and the street address and postcode will also be displayed.

So-called 'safe zones' can also be set up in which children can play safely and an alert will be sent to the parent's mobile phone and computer if the child strays out of that area.

The watch has been launched against a background of increasing fears among parents about the safety of their children.

As a result, youngsters are ferried to school by car, rather than walking or taking the bus, while fewer are allowed out to play in the park.

Recent reports have indicated that one in four children aged eight to ten have never played outside without a parent or guardian present, and one in three parents will not even allow older children, aged eight to 15, to play outside the house or garden unsupervised.

Steve Salmon of the watch's Worcestershire-based developers Lok8u said: 'This product gives parents the reassurance of knowing where their children are, any time, anywhere.

'Hopefully girls and boys can now be given the freedom to play outside that I enjoyed as a child.

'The overriding aim of Nu.M8 is to give children their freedom and parents peace of mind.'

However this comes at a price. The watch costs £149.99 and there is a monthly charge of up to £19.99 depending on level of use.

Michele Elliott, director of children's charity Kidscape, has reservations about using satellites to track youngsters.

She said: 'Anything that makes children safer is a good thing but is the world really that unsafe that parents need to electronically track their children? I don't think so.'

The watch will be launched this week at the International Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas.

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No, but I would get one of those little dog tags they inject into an animal. I'd tag my kids in case the ended up in the hospital or dead somewhere. Is that inhumane? Illegal?

No need to teach my kids that Big Brother can watch them anytime they want. If they are brought up in a home like that, it's easier to imagine the world works that way.

We have to trust kids while not giving them too much space. If it's not a safe environment, then it's not somewhere they can go. If they disobey you, ground them and make them understand why. If they die, bury them. The serenity prayer.

The day trust leaves that relationship is the day that we lose as parents.

[to21]

No, but I would get one of those little dog tags they inject into an animal. I'd tag my kids in case the ended up in the hospital or dead somewhere. Is that inhumane? Illegal?

No need to teach my kids that Big Brother can watch them anytime they want. If they are brought up in a home like that, it's easier to imagine the world works that way.

We have to trust kids while not giving them too much space. If it's not a safe environment, then it's not somewhere they can go. If they disobey you, ground them and make them understand why. If they die, bury them. The serenity prayer.

The day trust leaves that relationship is the day that we lose as parents.

U missed the point....the GPS is for when they say they are going to the movies and end up going downtown to score some blow instead.

I have help bury a kid, you wouldn't say "If they die, bury them" if you have ever have had to......

[2Blonde]

For the most part I was just joking, Blondie. Parent your kids however you want to...as long as they love you back then you're doing something right. My mother (grew up in a divorced, single parent fam) was always really bad at following through with punishment. Usually I'd get grounded and then at night before bed she'd come say how sorry she was that she yelled at me and that I wasn't grounded anymore. Maybe that puts my comments in a better perspective since busting out the tool box and removing a GPS wouldn't have got me in a whole lot of trouble.

I understand. I didn't take it as an attack on me as a parent. I grew up in a single parent home as well. Mom didn't remarry until I was in my 20's.

Well, you never know. She could be shooting it up between her toes so that she doesn't have track marks on her arms, like in that movie "Traffic". Ask her boyfriend to check her toes the next time your GPS tells you she's been parked outside his house for a few hours. That's probably a good sign that they're, well, you know...

So that's why she wears tennis shoes all the time instead of sandals!