Iraqi man wins $240K because of his t-shirt

[balli]

Maybe, but that doesn`t mean it is right.

okay Stalin

[leo_d]

okay Stalin

hey you are the one talkin about public venues and limited rights over private property, you are way more close to Stalin than I am

[doobs]

Especially regarding rights that fall under the first amendment.

Just so we're clear, you're really only talking about anti-discrimination laws, which are passed by Congress and state legislatures. The Cons ution does not forbid Jet Blue from restricting your right to speech or expression or religion. The First Amendment only applies to the government. (Some people think it only applies to Congress, in fact.)

[Winehole23]

Maybe, but that doesn`t mean it is right.

Quite right. But consider:

If the supreme law of the land isn't supreme, and can be trumped by the changing moral consensus (what is right), why have a cons ution at all?

[leo_d]

Quite right. But consider:

If the supreme law of the land isn't supreme, and can be trumped by the changing moral consensus (what is right), why have a cons ution at all?

I don`t beleive i have rights because they are writen in the Cons ution, and i don`t beleive that my rights are bounded to the majority or the moral consensus.

[Winehole23]

The Cons ution does not forbid Jet Blue from restricting your right to speech or expression or religion.

Still, they paid almost a quarter mil to make the t-shirt guy go away. If their case is so solid, I wonder why they paid off.

Just curious, does Jet Blue curtail speech, expression or religion? Do we waive our rights when we buy the ticket?

[Winehole23]

I don`t beleive i have rights because they are writen in the Cons ution, and i don`t beleive that my rights are bounded to the majority or the moral consensus.

Lemme guess, natural rights then?

[leo_d]

Still, they paid almost a quarter mil to make the t-shirt guy go away. If their case is so solid, I wonder why they paid off.

Just curious, does Jet Blue curtail speech, expression or religion? Do we waive our rights when we buy the ticket?

Im not sure about the rights of expression, but you do waive the right to walk out once you are in the air.

[leo_d]

Lemme guess, natural rights then?

yeap

[ChumpDumper]

It's very simple. I found it amusing that this guy left his country (pre or post Saddam, it doesn't matter), then chose the US as his new home, then chose to protest the US for oppressing the country he left while still choosing to live in the US instead of returning to Iraq or moving somewhere else. And yes, I feel he should have some sense of gra ude that he is in a country that gives him $240k for voicing his opinion instead of sticking him a meat grinder (that's somewhat amusing also).

ChumpDumper does not find any amusement in the story took exception to my comment and apparently feels that the US is oppressing the Iraqi people but doesn't want to say it.

Simple.

I find amusement in your sheer idiocy. You're a complete dolt and don't understand the most basic concepts.

Simple.

[LnGrrrR]

Grateful? We ripped their ing country to shreds. Hundreds of thousands of people are no longer alive because of us. You're ing ignorant man.

That 'grateful' line always reminds me of Family Guy, when Stewie talks about how America freed the slaves... "We wrote a pretty big check for you guys"... lol

[ClingingMars]

lol, the ACLU

-Mars

[doobs]

Still, they paid almost a quarter mil to make the t-shirt guy go away. If their case is so solid, I wonder why they paid off.

Just curious, does Jet Blue curtail speech, expression or religion? Do we waive our rights when we buy the ticket?

I never said their case was solid. I was only pointing out that Jet Blue is under no cons utional obligation to respect your right to expression. The First Amendment is applicable to government, only. But you also enjoy certain statutory rights regarding discrimination, and those rights are created by Congress and state legislatures.

So, in response to your general question: no, you don't waive your First Amendment rights when you buy a ticket. You still have them, they just don't protect you from private discrimination.

The TSA is another matter, I suppose.

[Blake]

Still, they paid almost a quarter mil to make the t-shirt guy go away. If their case is so solid, I wonder why they paid off.

Jet Blue didn't want the negative publicity in a dragged out case.

I think JB would have won the lawsuit, but sometimes it's just better to apologize, pay a few bucks and move on.

Corporations do it all the time.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

It's very simple. I found it amusing that this guy left his country (pre or post Saddam, it doesn't matter), then chose the US as his new home, then chose to protest the US for oppressing the country he left while still choosing to live in the US instead of returning to Iraq or moving somewhere else. And yes, I feel he should have some sense of gra ude that he is in a country that gives him $240k for voicing his opinion instead of sticking him a meat grinder (that's somewhat amusing also).

ChumpDumper does not find any amusement in the story took exception to my comment and apparently feels that the US is oppressing the Iraqi people but doesn't want to say it.

Simple.

You are one complete and utter ing idiot, you know that? Do you live in cloud nine of ville? What the does it matter where he is from??

[SnakeBoy]

What the does it matter where he is from??

Now you're just trying to follow in Chumps footsteps by asking me to explain a joke to you. Unfortunately I'm busy today so I can't take the time to with you for asking such a stupid question.

[ChumpDumper]

you're following in your own footsteps not being able to explain what your bull has to do with anything.

[SnakeBoy]

I'm just amused that an Iraqi, living in America, after Saddam is no more, decides he has the balls to wear a shirt saying "We will not be silent".

What does that mean?

And just so Manumaniac doesn't spend too much time scratching his head...

A british man moves to the US and then protests the war in Iraq by wearing a shirt that says we will not be silent. - See there isn't anything humorous or ironic about that so it does matter where he's from.

you're following in your own footsteps not being able to explain what your bull has to do with anything.

Bingo! The little light bulb in your head finally came on. I never commented on the Jet Blue case.

[ChumpDumper]

Except this is the cause of the JetBlue case.

You still have no idea what you are talking about.