Monroe: Two Missed Shots Leave Parker Vexed

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I think it's out of the desire for a PG in the traditional sense.

WARNING: COMPARISON UPCOMING

Take a look at Chris Paul. He's more of a traditional PG. But he still is shooting 49%. He averages only .9 less points/game than Tony but averages 4.6 more assists. Amazingly he takes 3 less shots per game. Yes he has averaged 4 more minutes per game but those assist numbers are what you really want out of a true PG. Will Tony ever be capable of those type numbers? Maybe. Is it silly to hope for them? Definitely. I've been criticized for saying Tony's shot selection has been subpar but imagine if he could take 3 less shots, average about the same points/game and have just 2 or 3 more assists per game.

Always the same example.
It is unfair, Chris Paul is a TOP 5 player in this league and a MVP candidate. Do you bash Ginobili because he don't have Kobe or Wade numbers?

Moreover, Paul is the centerpiece of the Hornets offense. Do you want to ask Duncan to change his game, to become a finisher only waiting for Parker creation? Do you want Manu to become a "catch and shoot" player?

Can you explain me why with the best passer in the league the Hornets are just an average passing team:
- 57% of assisted FG, 59% for the Spurs
- #11 in Hollinger (not exactly a Spurs fan) assist stats when the Spurs are #2.
- 20 apg, Spurs 22


To finish, what make you believe tony could make 2/3 less shots and score the same points/game? Tony is a 50% scorer... Why do you think his shot selection is poor? How is he suppose to know which shots he will miss?
Do you realise, he would be a 57% to 61% scorer with 2-3 shot less and the same points? Only centers can score like that.

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Always the same example.
It is unfair, Chris Paul is a TOP 5 player in this league and a MVP candidate. Do you bash Ginobili because he don't have Kobe or Wade numbers?

I missed the part where I was "bashing" anyone.

Moreover, Paul is the centerpiece of the Hornets offense.

According to people here Tony is the centerpiece of our offense.

Do you want to ask Duncan to change his game, to become a finisher only waiting for Parker creation? Do you want Manu to become a "catch and shoot" player?

Please re-read my post.

Can you explain me why with the best passer in the league the Hornets are just an average passing team:
- 57% of assisted FG, 59% for the Spurs
- #11 in Hollinger (not exactly a Spurs fan) assist stats when the Spurs are #2.
- 20 apg, Spurs 22

...why does this matter?

To finish, what make you believe tony could make 2/3 less shots and score the same points/game?

Because other players can. And again, re-read my post.

Tony is a 50% scorer... Why do you think his shot selection is poor?

I wonder if you realize you answered your own question.

How is he suppose to know which shots he will miss?

Are you joking? Shot selection is not knowing "which shots you will miss".

Do you realise, he would be a 57% to 61% scorer with 2-3 shot less and the same points? Only centers can score like that.

Or guys named Chris Paul? Gimme a break.

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I missed the part where I was "bashing" anyone.

Ok, I trust you about that. I hope you will admit it is not fair to compare Tony with the best PG in the league.

According to people here Tony is the centerpiece of our offense.
Please re-read my post.

Not like Paul.

...why does this matter?

It matters because basketball is a team game. The Spurs are already a good passing team so we don't have much room to improve there. If Parker increase is apg according to your wish (i.e. 2 or 3 more APG...) he will probably steal them from the rest of the team. New Orleans average passing despite Paul presence illustrate that very well.

Because other players can. And again, re-read my post.

Once again: the best PG in the league.
Tony has a better FG% than Paul. Paul takes more 3 pointer. Do you want Tony to shoot more 3? And more important: he has 2 more FT per game.
Conclusion: Paul shot selection is not better that Tony Parker.

I wonder if you realize you answered your own question.

Yes I did, Tony is #2 in FG% among PG, his shot selection is not good, it is elite.

Are you joking? Shot selection is not knowing "which shots you will miss".

When a guard shots 50%, his shot selection is good... he can't improve without foreseeing which shots he will miss.

Or guys named Chris Paul? Gimme a break.

No even the great Chris Paul can't shot that well. And if Tp shot more 3pt and more FT it will not improve his assists total.

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Nelson is Parker's daddy

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Ok, I trust you about that. I hope you will admit it is not fair to compare Tony with the best PG in the league.

Is Tony not top 5? This is also why I included a warning. If you read the end of my post you see I say it's silly to hope for those numbers.

It matters because basketball is a team game. The Spurs are already a good passing team so we don't have much room to improve there. If Parker increase is apg according to your wish (i.e. 2 or 3 more APG...) he will probably steal them from the rest of the team. New Orleans average passing despite Paul presence illustrate that very well.

This is my point though. If he takes 2-3 fewer shots, that could mean more assists. That won't be taking assists from other players.

Tony has a better FG% than Paul.

barely

Paul takes more 3 pointer.

Because he has that range

Do you want Tony to shoot more 3?

No

And more important: he has 2 more FT per game.

Ok so he would average 2 less points.

Conclusion: Paul shot selection is not better that Tony Parker.

Never said it was.

Yes I did, Tony is #2 in FG% among PG, his shot selection is not good, it is elite.

FG% is associated with good shot selection. There's probably a very strong correlation. But it doesn't mean a player has excellent shot selection. Tony is fortunate enough to have blazing speed and a decent jump shot. Those mean he gets easy shots and hits open jumpers.

When a guard shots 50%, his shot selection is good... he can't improve without foreseeing which shots he will miss.

Not true. Though I guess he should be able to foresee that going for a layup with a center near the basket is probably not gonna end well.

No even the great Chris Paul can't

Paul doesn't shoot the % no. He does take less shots and average about the same points and 4 more assists.