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    I'm a tad concerned about the fouling and the unimpressive D...

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    3 steals and 3 blocks to go with those 5 fouls . . . doesn't look bad to me.

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    I'm a tad concerned about the fouling and the unimpressive D...
    Its two games man...and he did have 3 blocked shots

    Let's everyone be realistic here. He is going to be the last big off the bench. He is not going to be Timmy...or even KT for that matter. All we need is him to grab some boards, not get abused on defense and throw it down when he open off a double team.

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    Its two games man...and he did have 3 blocked shots

    Let's everyone be realistic here. He is going to be the last big off the bench. He is not going to be Timmy...or even KT for that matter. All we need is him to grab some boards, not get abused on defense and throw it down when he open off a double team.
    He's the new Ian!!! I just wish he weighed as much.

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    I think people are reading WAY too much into this. My thoughts are that this is strictly a Toros move, and has nothing to do with the big club at all. Austin lost a couple of bigs to Europe, and they needed a big body to put on the floor. That's all.

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    I think people are reading WAY too much into this. My thoughts are that this is strictly a Toros move, and has nothing to do with the big club at all. Austin lost a couple of bigs to Europe, and they needed a big body to put on the floor. That's all.
    Sorry, if you have athletic, dunks, big, and blocks in the same paragraph about the same player, we swarm like frogs on Egyptians, or flies on lights, take your pic.

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    I think people are reading WAY too much into this. My thoughts are that this is strictly a Toros move, and has nothing to do with the big club at all. Austin lost a couple of bigs to Europe, and they needed a big body to put on the floor. That's all.
    Well, I take into consideration the fact that Pops had been in the states for at least several weeks already and his was one of a flurry of signings in the D-League that week. The Toros made a mockery of the signing rules last season, and those rules were changed to the extent that the only thing Demps can really do is have a potential signee hold out until the Toros are at the top of the allocation list.

    Now does this mean he's a lock for a call up to the Spurs. No, but given Demps' jobs on both teams, it's not too far out to think this might be an extended, paid workout for Pops.

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    Hope he can have a long string of productive games, and dial down the fouls. Then maybe Pop will take notice.

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    Not really. It's just due to the sample size, way too small.
    They don't play defense in ACB.

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    How is it even better, no one else can touch him on th Toros?

    And thanks to al those who brought me up to speed on the leagues in Europe, and what the stats meant. If ACB is truy the best over there, it's a good sign he did so well.
    It is not the best. Euroleague is much better. Spain and Greece is good leagues and pretty close to each other but they are far from level of Euroleague.

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    Pops could just be using the D League to show Euro teams his shoulder is ok and is trying to get a new contract overseas
    Although, I think it is too late for him to help a Euroleague team he could be useful to help teams avoid being regulated

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    "Not highly skilled" sorta like ..... Rodman, but more coordinated?

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    For those who are interested, Pops' first two games as a Toro are in the archive:

    http://www.nba.com/dleague/news/webc...hive_0708.html

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    Thanks for the heads up Chump. I'll check them out this evening or tomorrow.

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    Pops had 31 points on Wednesday as the Toros lost to the 14ers

    http://www.nba.com/dleague/games/box...eId=2020800193
    link to boxscore

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    He had a nice game offensively. He was being fed in the post just like Ian last season. The 14ers were trying to single cover him most of the game and he got his main defender in foul trouble and ejected. Defensively it took him a long time to get the hang of defending Josh Davis on the perimeter as Davis' 3pt shooting shows. He at least improved as the game went on and ended up blocking one of his three point attempts. He got into foul trouble again, but he also stayed in the game a long time with five fouls, drawing two charges after getting the fifth.

    He almost had a SportsCenter highlight last second three pointer off an offensive rebound to win the game. Overall it was a good test for Pops, and it looks like he can adjust and not lose his cool during the course of a game. Worth developing and keeping an eye on.

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    Pop and Pop

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    Toros are playing the Vipers now if anyone is interested.

    http://www.nba.com/dleague/webcastDleague.html

    Injury bug has bitten them again -- they started out with a tall ball lineup with three power forwards, Marcus Williams and a point guard.

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    Thanks.

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    Ezra Williams and Squeaky Johnson in street clothes. Both were playing very well before their injuries -- especially Ezra as a starter. Add Hairston's call up and perimeter scoring has really taken a hit.

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    Toros are playing the Vipers now if anyone is interested.

    http://www.nba.com/dleague/webcastDleague.html

    Injury bug has bitten them again -- they started out with a tall ball lineup with three power forwards, Marcus Williams and a point guard.
    Thanks!

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    Damn, now Jason Parker goes down with a knee injury.

    Ridiculous.

    We're down playing white guys now.

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    What happened to Mensah?

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    What happened to Mensah?
    He's playing pretty well. Dunking all over the place. There are some really athletic big men playing today -- Pops, Dawson, Angounou, Kurt Looby, Marcus Hubbard, Kendall Dartez -- fun to watch in that respect.
    Last edited by ChumpDumper; 02-08-2009 at 07:47 PM.

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    Pops has 16 pts 7 reb in the first half on 5-5 shooting from the floor. 6-9 from the line.

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