Espn Says Ben Is #2 Qb In Leauge!

[dirk4mvp]

And we know why dirk4mvp is posting in this thread. He knows it, but won't admit it, that Peyton's the biggest choker of them all.

Peyton's regular season record: 117-59; playoff record: 7-8
Regular season completion % : 64%, playoff completion % : 56%

Even during their lone Super Bowl run, the Colts won despite Manning laying his usual egg: 3 TDs / 7 INTs.

As for stretch, lol Raiders. Al Davis is still alive and Oakland is still a pile of dog .

Hey did you know Peyton will go down as a top 5 qb of all time? Did you know Ben won't?

[dirk4mvp]

[smahmood26]

See, here's where stretch's hyperbole takes over ... you'd think that Ben is a ty QB who turns it up only in the final drive. Among QBs with 1500 attempts or more, Ben is in the top 10 all-time in yards per attempt and passer rating. He's already set Steelers franchise records in passer rating, completion %, yards Per attempt, most 300+ yard games, 3000 yard passing seasons.

He has been pretty good throughout his career. 51-20 in the regular season, 8-2 in the postseason. 19 come-from-behind drives to tie or win in the 4th quarter.

The scary thing is he's getting better with his judgment each year.

PREACH IT!!!!!

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

The scary thing is he's getting better with his judgment each year.

Really? The stats don't bear that out at all. Take a look at his last three years:

469 Attempts, 60% 18 TDs, 23 INTs

404 Attempts, 65% 32 TDs, 11 INTs

469 Attempts, 60% 17 TDs, 15 INTs

That doesn't look like a guy improving each year. Those stats look like a guy reverting back to the norm.

And W/L record should never be used while evaluating QBs. I said the same about VY a few years ago. Look at Roeth and his 1st ring. He had one of the worst performances of any QB that's played in the game in SB history yet still came away with the win.

He and Eli are cut from the same cloth.

[beefanus]

Really? The stats don't bear that out at all. Take a look at his last three years:

469 Attempts, 60% 18 TDs, 23 INTs

404 Attempts, 65% 32 TDs, 11 INTs

469 Attempts, 60% 17 TDs, 15 INTs

When he's asked to throw the ball more, he makes more mistakes. And those stats look like a guy reverting back to the norm.

And W/L record should never be used while evaluating QBs. I said the same about VY a few years ago. Look at Roeth and his 1st ring. He had one of the worst performances of any QB that's played in the game in SB history yet still came away with the win.

He and Eli are cut from the same cloth.

Winning is everything, y would you not take that into considerasion? You dont win, your not as good as a qb who does plain and simple!

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Winning is everything, y would you not take that into considerasion? You dont win, your not as good as a qb who does plain and simple!

So Dan Marino isn't as good as Dilfer or Brad Johnson?

It's a team game.

[beefanus]

So Dan Marino isn't as good as Dilfer or Brad Johnson?

It's a team game.

True it is, but if a qb cant win idc if he doesnt throw pics!

[jack sommerset]

Man thats one fat chick

[stretch]

True it is, but if a qb cant win idc if he doesnt throw pics!

you're a ing moron

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ESPN knows there are a million Steelers fans basking in their championship, and we all know ESPN are bandwaggoning s. When healthy, big Ben is pretty damn good.

[smahmood26]

To be honest, it was one analyst that said he would take Ben number 2. ESPN did not conduct a poll or anything like that. Thread le is very misleading. Some "Steeler" fans do not speak for all

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To be honest, it was one analyst that said he would take Ben number 2. ESPN did not conduct a poll or anything like that. Thread le is very misleading. Some "Steeler" fans do not speak for all

Ben's had a lot of success so far in his career, so it's not the most ridiculous thing in the world to suggest that he's at that position. My point isn't whether or not he's that good, but that it's not surprising that someone would say it during a week where there are going to be a LOT of Steeler fans watching. ESPN likes to make the big segments of their audience happy. If they can add a little controversy to stir up discussion, so much the better. That's their MO.