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Ok, boss.
Ok, boss.
Where is Vlady Divac when you need him?
agree in general, but on the other hand I didn't read about any "high" offers. it doesn't look as if the Kings can get back a high 1st round pick, so it will likely just be a salary dump move. Spurs will still have to offer something (1st rounder 2011? multible 2nd rounders? rights for Splitter? Gist?), Kings will for sure also ask for Hill, who could be a very nice compliment to Martin.
however, again agree, that he isn't the 18+PPG player, but he's a very good all around player in typical Spurs mold, who would be a nice upgrade over Fin on offense and a huge upgrade over him on defense.
about the price: I wonder why the Kings didn't pull the trigger on the reported Thunder offer (Smith), I can't see that the Thunder didn't include something like the Spurs 1st round pick in the package. so the Kings either want a better pick, or a better (young) player in return.
overall I would like the move a lot, even if a big man would be more important. but maybe there is a long term strategy to now significantly upgrade the wing (because the available bigs are not good enough) and 2009 try to get Sheed for the MLE. a 2009-2012 squad with Salmons and Sheed would look fantastic.
Agree.
I don't think Pop wants Salmons right now.We have a pretty good backcourt this year.Finley for Salmons? Even I sure Pop will put Finley before Salmons.
Everybody was talking about add another big so I can't understand why people here thinks on Salmons.
didn't we draft salmons.
Yes, traded him for Speedy Claxton in 2002.
if we are able to use Horry in some trade, I would prefer it be one where we get another big....one who gives us a defensive presence down low.....a solid rebounder who blocks or alters lots of shots.
That'd be sick for Duncan if they got Sheed or Miller. Sheed is unrealistic IMO but he's one of the best 1 on 1 post defenders in the league and would allow Duncan to regulate the weak side and focus on help D.
i wish when we traded Rasho to Toronto, that we could have included Beno and another filler for Bonner, Charlie V, and whoever else we got.
I mean right after we traded Rasho to them, they traded Charlie V for TJ Ford.
I also wish that we would have drafted Marc Gasol instead of Marcus Williams.....by doing this, we would have had insurance in case Splitter didnt want to sign. With Gasol being a 2nd rounder, we could give him a better deal than had he been a 1st round pick. Also, it would have prevented the Lakers from drafting him and then shipping his rights to Memphis for Pau. The Lakers would have had to give up perhaps Odom to get Gasol....and they would look a bit differently today.
Plus, we wouldnt have traded away a 1st round pick to get Kurt Thomas....and Barry would possibly still be on our team.
C - Villanueva, Gasol
PF - Duncan, Bonner, Fab
SF - Finley, Bowen, Udoka
SG - Mason, Manu, Barry
PG - Parker, Hill, Vaughn
Miller = Bonner
Salmons please.
I found another tidbit today:
Among the Thunder players who could be traded are forwards Chris Wilcox and Joe Smith, who both have expiring contracts, and guards Earl Watson and Damien Wilkins.
Sacramento forward John Salmons, who the Thunder reportedly recently sought to acquire in a trade for Smith, continues to hear his name in trade rumors. According to a report in the Sacramento Bee, the Thunder recently offered Smith for Salmons. The Bee reports Salmons has also attracted interest from San Antonio.
When asked about the possibility of playing for the Thunder, Salmons said, “That’s not official yet. Rumors are rumors. If it happens then I’ll have a thought on it. But it hasn’t gone down yet so I’m still a Sacramento King.”
http://newsok.com/scott-brooks-non-c...ad_story_ le
Anyone up for Smith or Wilcox from the Thunder?
Either, but preferably Wilcox, as long as it doesn't cost much from the Spurs roster and/or future picks.
Haslem>>>>>>>>Wilcox
Bonner>>>>>>>>Smith
How does Miller=Bonner? Miller is a better shooter, a two-time all star, a bigger and better defender....the list goes on....so stop.
But for the purpose of this arguement, Wilcox>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Fab+Ian+Tiago(i'm going off of production this year)
Would Haslem even be a reasonable possibility?
That would've been fine had the Raptors wanted Beno.
Beno's trade value was worse than what the Spurs got for him.
He was absolutely worthless.
Wilcox is lazy and stupid, Joe Smith just sucks.
So no to either please.
Not a better shooter no.
But bigger better defender and former all star yes.
Former all star means jack squat now though.
I don't think anything but Salmons could happen. I'm pretty sure Rob's salary for the trade would be limited to 105% of what he made last year. I don't see how the Spurs make up the difference in salary in a Carter or Miller trade.
The only way they could get Miller is if they traded Horry, Finley and maybe Oberto, I don't know if the salaries match. MAYBE MAYBE, if the Kings get rid of Salmons they might take Udoka.
Wich IMO would be perfect. If you could take Horry's salary, Udoka wich is like 2 million and maybe Finley and or Oberto or whatever, it might work.
Don't know, too lazy to run it through the trade machine, because more than likely bupkus will happen.
I don't see Miller making the Spurs that much better. He isn't a great defender; we don't need low post scoring; and isn't much of a better shooter than Bonner or Kurt. Salmons on the other hand would instantly make the Spurs the favorites. We would no longer have to hope that Finley brings his A game. Salmons would bring another slasher into the starting lineup. The rumors are probably too good to be true.
Miller can be a a good defender when motivated....which would happen under Popovich.
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