San Antonio "best team" according to Simmons

[underdawg]

Blah, blah, blah. Spur fan again changing the parameters of his pathetic argument to fit his incredibly idiotic smack talk.

The Spurs and Lakers will never face off in the Finals. Everyone knows in 2001 the WCF was essentially the Finals considering how weak the EC was that year.

And stop taking credit for what another franchise did that your franchise couldn't do. If the Lakers were so pathetic what does it say about your team that couldn't defeat them and lost handily 4-1?

sounds like someone's a little insecure - reminds me of mav fan in 2007. best record in regular season, just beat the spurs in conf. finals and lost in the finals. difference is the obvious le history, but la only has bryant and fisher left from previous les and history didn't do anything for you last year. so, don't come in here and talk history - our core's been there and will be there again. throw that "last year" and "regular season" garbage where it belongs - this year's le will only be determined by a team's playoff performance period.

[Man In Black]

They're Past Tense.

Seriously...you can talk all the 4-1 Phil Pop talk but in the last 10 seasons, the best number to point out is 4 rings to 3 rings. You have no answer for that. NONE AT ALL. You will then try to go future tense and say Pop said this and that...everyone knows that what Pop says is tongue and cheek compared to the kind of "Serbian" the organization hears, the stuff you'll never know because you're too busy being force-fed the Laker Kool-Aid.

Hey, where did that get you the last two times in the finals when you guys were going in as the Favorites? , when The LAL lost to the Pistons, the world had pretty much conceded that what happened there was a 5 game sweep. When you lost to the Celtics in such a humiliating fashion, that's all that's talked about here with the media in SO CAL, especially those blowhards at KLAC who keep focusing on the East like they're the only thing that stands in the Lakers way from getting another LOB. Those scrubs treat the Spurs like they're THE-TEAM-THAT-SHALL-NOT-BE-NAMED.

No...guess again,Silver and Black is back and look...now AB is "all-broke" with an 8-12 week prognosis. Hey, you never know, he could try to come back sooner than that, but if you know basketball, it'll be hard to integrate him in such a limited time-frame and he's gotta get back into shape and the rotation has to change et al.

And this quote right here:

No torch is being passed. The Lakers have always had it.

What you smell are fumes, if you had a torch, it's been reduced to a match stick.

Just because the team you back is the most popular team in the NBA, that doesn't make them the best. All style, no substance means you haven't won since 2002. What does that mean exactly? It means that at least 2 Summer Olympics torches have been lit and extinguished. It means that 2 Presidential Elections have been voted on and done. It means that in this season if your team fails again...that will have meant 7 seasons of falling short. Could be worse...I remember the days of Club Ced and losing the city le to the Clippers.

The only group of fans that expects to win les more than you are Chokeland Fader fans. But you know what...they ain't won either.

RECOGNIZE...this Spurs team ain't going to let the Lakers just win. You'll have to earn it and FACT...A KOBE BRYANT LED LAKER TEAM HAS NEVER WON A LE. FACT!!!
See if your minuscule brain can handle that nugget of truth.

[ezau]

anakha:

Looks like over compensation and smack of a team that still hasn't gotten the bile of bitter defeat out their mouths from last year's Finals monumentally and historically embarrassing as they were. Did you know that the Lakers set an NBA record for a margin of defeat in an NBA Finals? It surpassed their old 1965 record of defeat. Maybe they are used to it?

Perhaps if they played basketball and overcame their sense of en lement and expected coronation of being NBA Champions every year, the Celtics would show them some shred of compassion and mercifully not pound their s into the dirt.

Then again, they wouldn't be the Lakers.

Wow, I know that that the Lakers are everybody's rag in the Finals, especially with their 14/29 record. But to surpass their old record in 1965 by their historical collapse 39-point beat down in 2008? I agree, this team is used to getting humiliated in the biggest basketball show on Earth

[underdawg]

They're Past Tense.

Seriously...you can talk all the 4-1 Phil Pop talk but in the last 10 seasons, the best number to point out is 4 rings to 3 rings. You have no answer for that. NONE AT ALL. You will then try to go future tense and say Pop said this and that...everyone knows that what Pop says is tongue and cheek compared to the kind of "Serbian" the organization hears, the stuff you'll never know because you're too busy being force-fed the Laker Kool-Aid.

Hey, where did that get you the last two times in the finals when you guys were going in as the Favorites? , when The LAL lost to the Pistons, the world had pretty much conceded that what happened there was a 5 game sweep. When you lost to the Celtics in such a humiliating fashion, that's all that's talked about here with the media in SO CAL, especially those blowhards at KLAC who keep focusing on the East like they're the only thing that stands in the Lakers way from getting another LOB. Those scrubs treat the Spurs like they're THE-TEAM-THAT-SHALL-NOT-BE-NAMED.

No...guess again,Silver and Black is back and look...now AB is "all-broke" with an 8-12 week prognosis. Hey, you never know, he could try to come back sooner than that, but if you know basketball, it'll be hard to integrate him in such a limited time-frame and he's gotta get back into shape and the rotation has to change et al.

And this quote right here:

What you smell are fumes, if you had a torch, it's been reduced to a match stick.

Just because the team you back is the most popular team in the NBA, that doesn't make them the best. All style, no substance means you haven't won since 2002. What does that mean exactly? It means that at least 2 Summer Olympics torches have been lit and extinguished. It means that 2 Presidential Elections have been voted on and done. It means that in this season if your team fails again...that will have meant 7 seasons of falling short. Could be worse...I remember the days of Club Ced and losing the city le to the Clippers.

The only group of fans that expects to win les more than you are Chokeland Fader fans. But you know what...they ain't won either.

RECOGNIZE...this Spurs team ain't going to let the Lakers just win. You'll have to earn it and FACT...A KOBE BRYANT LED LAKER TEAM HAS NEVER WON A LE. FACT!!!
See if your minuscule brain can handle that nugget of truth.

well done

[phyzik]

As much time as DrHouse spends claiming the Lakers are better than the Spurs (which they are right now, no one doubts it) you would think someone so secure in their team would just STFU and quit talking so much trash. Its clear he fears the Spurs.

DrHouse is definately a troll, probably SpursDynasty ing around or some . I've given up arguing with his dumb ass. He still believes his Lakers can go 82-0 and 16-0 in the playoffs. Whatever. Its like argueing with a re ed child.

[milkyway21]

. If the Lakers were so pathetic what does it say about your team that couldn't defeat them and lost handily 4-1?

What about the Spurs 4-0 sweep of the Lakers in 1999 playoffs? Disregard that one?

[JWest596]

As much time as DrHouse spends claiming the Lakers are better than the Spurs (which they are right now, no one doubts it) you would think someone so secure in their team would just STFU and quit talking so much trash. Its clear he fears the Spurs.

DrHouse is definately a troll, probably SpursDynasty ing around or some . I've given up arguing with his dumb ass. He still believes his Lakers can go 82-0 and 16-0 in the playoffs. Whatever. Its like arguing with a re ed child.

Too many Laker fans are like that. IMO, most of them are fair weather fans who jump on the bandwagon. With their legions of fans, it must be unavoidable.

They are like people you know and who you invite into your home for the first time who sit down and stick their muddy shoes on the coffee table and stick around for dinner. Your civility, hospitality and manners prevent a scene but you never ask them back.

And I've never heard a Laker explain how a Kobe Bryant Laker teams fails to make the playoffs. Nor did they ever get past Phoenix twice when D'Antoni was there either. They should thank the Spurs for eliminating that albatross around their necks last year.

[TheManFromAcme]

What about the Spurs 4-0 sweep of the Lakers in 1999 playoffs? Disregard that one?

............you mean just like when Kobe single-handedly closed down the Alamodome in 2001? Yeah, I remember that one.

[TheManFromAcme]

They're Past Tense.

Seriously...you can talk all the 4-1 Phil Pop talk but in the last 10 seasons, the best number to point out is 4 rings to 3 rings. You have no answer for that. NONE AT ALL. You will then try to go future tense and say Pop said this and that...everyone knows that what Pop says is tongue and cheek compared to the kind of "Serbian" the organization hears, the stuff you'll never know because you're too busy being force-fed the Laker Kool-Aid.

Hey, where did that get you the last two times in the finals when you guys were going in as the Favorites? , when The LAL lost to the Pistons, the world had pretty much conceded that what happened there was a 5 game sweep. When you lost to the Celtics in such a humiliating fashion, that's all that's talked about here with the media in SO CAL, especially those blowhards at KLAC who keep focusing on the East like they're the only thing that stands in the Lakers way from getting another LOB. Those scrubs treat the Spurs like they're THE-TEAM-THAT-SHALL-NOT-BE-NAMED.

No...guess again,Silver and Black is back and look...now AB is "all-broke" with an 8-12 week prognosis. Hey, you never know, he could try to come back sooner than that, but if you know basketball, it'll be hard to integrate him in such a limited time-frame and he's gotta get back into shape and the rotation has to change et al.

And this quote right here:

What you smell are fumes, if you had a torch, it's been reduced to a match stick.

Just because the team you back is the most popular team in the NBA, that doesn't make them the best. All style, no substance means you haven't won since 2002. What does that mean exactly? It means that at least 2 Summer Olympics torches have been lit and extinguished. It means that 2 Presidential Elections have been voted on and done. It means that in this season if your team fails again...that will have meant 7 seasons of falling short. Could be worse...I remember the days of Club Ced and losing the city le to the Clippers.

The only group of fans that expects to win les more than you are Chokeland Fader fans. But you know what...they ain't won either.

RECOGNIZE...this Spurs team ain't going to let the Lakers just win. You'll have to earn it and FACT...A KOBE BRYANT LED LAKER TEAM HAS NEVER WON A LE. FACT!!!
See if your minuscule brain can handle that nugget of truth.

Nice piece. Nice to know that all things Lakers dominate what little gray matter you have. Thank you for taking the effort to write such a piece all centralized on the one thing that is in your mind...LAKERS. As for my "no torch has been passed" comment; Glad to know that the control panel to your buttons are that accessible. . I' am glad I know this now.

You are about as truthful as Obama.......not.

[Extra Stout]

This thread was predictable. It's been the same thing for ten years -- if a national journalist says something nice about the Spurs, they are heroes for eternity; if they say something bad, they have been evil and depraved since time began. These threads are more fun when the same journalist says something good and then bad about the Spurs in the space of two weeks and the same posters who were calling for carving his face on Mount Rushmore start cursing his mother.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Don't remember the Laker trolls being so arrogant until they stole Gasol, in fact I remember non other than Mike freaking D'Antoni joking with them because they were Suns' es in the early playoff rounds.

One thing history teaches everone with an ounce of brain in their heads is humility. Everybody can talk smack, but few are there to admit they were wrong when things don't go their way.

[Demo Dick Marcinko]

Nice piece. Nice to know that all things Lakers dominate what little gray matter you have. Thank you for taking the effort to write such a piece all centralized on the one thing that is in your mind...LAKERS. As for my "no torch has been passed" comment; Glad to know that the control panel to your buttons are that accessible. . I' am glad I know this now.

You are about as truthful as Obama.......not.

Let me see if I'm getting this right? You're insinuating that a poster is obsessed with the Lakers, and this is coming from a person who lives on a Spurs board? Catch the irony here? For being such a dumb ass you sure do have an over inflated opinion of yourself. Trust me no one here thinks you're that bright or takes anything you say as gospel. Get over yourself.


I don't know that MIB or anyone 'cept maybe you would write a "centralized" (broke out the old thesaurus I see) post because that's all they have in their mind. Remember you're the only one that lives on his team's rivals forum. The rest of us have lives. Yeah I know, the mind moves in the area of it's most predominant thought, but I think in this case MIB dwelled on a singular topic, namely Faker futility and kept it concise because, well frankly you're a little dimwitted and feeble minded. You should be thanking him.

[TheManFromAcme]

Let me see if I'm getting this right? You're insinuating that a poster is obsessed with the Lakers, and this is coming from a person who lives on a Spurs board? Catch the irony here? For being such a dumb ass you sure do have an over inflated opinion of yourself. Trust me no one here thinks you're that bright or takes anything you say as gospel. Get over yourself.


I don't know that MIB or anyone 'cept maybe you would write a "centralized" (broke out the old thesaurus I see) post because that's all they have in their mind. Remember you're the only one that lives on his team's rivals forum. The rest of us have lives. Yeah I know, the mind moves in the area of it's most predominant thought, but I think in this case MIB dwelled on a singular topic, namely Faker futility and kept it concise because, well frankly you're a little dimwitted and feeble minded. You should be thanking him.

Nice choice of words.
I am at work, enjoying a cup of Joe here in good old New Braunfels taking it easy for once, having what I thought was fun and you spew the declaration of independence?

What's so ironic about a Laker fan being on a Spurs board? Is life that shallow for you to point out where I can and can't be?

Excuse me if I am wrong but I thought ALL OF THIS was for fun.
I save the real rhtetoric for blogs, forums, discussion that matter and make a difference in my life, i.e., the economy, politics, health care, etc., etc.

I am tickling you, you shmuck. Teasing you and your loyalty to your team, that's all.

Get over it.

[hater]

wake up homers

Spurs are tied as 3rd best team in the league with Cavs.

Need a lot of work if they want to be better than lakers/celtics... but they are on the right path

[ElNono]

Do we need to add another car to the bandwagon? We have a bunch of guys jumping in around this time...

[1usamotorsports.com]

Lakers are the same team as last year except if bynum plays in the play offs. Lakers are playing with alot more heart than last year because they got slaughterd by the celtics .

Its a fact that manu was hurt . Spurs now have mason , hill , and bonner is shooting his lights out . Spurs are playing alot better than last year . If spurs are healthy come play off time I would bet on the spurs.

[DrHouse]

Thus far nobody has disputed the fact that the Spurs have no answer for the Laker's front court. Bonner and Thomas have both shown they are incapable of guarding Gasol, Odom, and Bynum. not even Duncan could slow Bynum down in their last matchup. The Spurs will not defeat a team they cannot defend, their offense is good but it's not as good as the Lakers.

The key and linchpin to an efficient Laker offense is running through the post, not through Kobe. Kobe is the decoy, but for Kobe to be a decoy his teammates have to be legitimate threats that need to be doubled. If you cannot stop Gasol, Odom, and Bynum there really isn't much of a chance you'll beat the Lakers 4 times in 7 games.

Somehow the majority of you think that the playoffs are going to make those matchups somehow different. That Bonner and Thomas are going to magically gain a few inches and find the fountain of youth to regain some actual athleticism.

A few rational posters have realized the exact same thing I am saying now. The Spurs need to make a trade for a legit big or they are not getting past the Lakers.

[JWest596]

Thus far nobody has disputed the fact that the Spurs have no answer for the Laker's front court. Bonner and Thomas have both shown they are incapable of guarding Gasol, Odom, and Bynum. not even Duncan could slow Bynum down in their last matchup. The Spurs will not defeat a team they cannot defend, their offense is good but it's not as good as the Lakers.

Who are you trying to convince? Yourself?

A few rational posters have realized the exact same thing I am saying now

Like an arrogant smack talking Laker homer hanging around his teams' greatest threat fan site looking for affirmation and love? Considering that the Lakers haven't won another championship with Kobe by himself since 2002. You're now giving us pontifications and touting your team after the debacle of last year's 2008 Finals that was humiliated with pretty much the same team you brag about now?

Sheer comedy gold.

[ElNono]

Thus far nobody has disputed the fact that the Spurs have no answer for the Laker's front court. Bonner and Thomas have both shown they are incapable of guarding Gasol, Odom, and Bynum. not even Duncan could slow Bynum down in their last matchup. The Spurs will not defeat a team they cannot defend, their offense is good but it's not as good as the Lakers.

I did plenty of times, troll. You're just the bag that don't want to listen.
The Lakers frontcourt is the least of our problems. Drill it in your head already.

[DrHouse]

I did plenty of times, troll. You're just the bag that don't want to listen.
The Lakers frontcourt is the least of our problems. Drill it in your head already.

One can only hope your FO is thinking the same thing.

[Baseline]

Not only has a Bryant-led team never won a ring, your overblown star shot 6-17 in an ugly Game 4 loss at Staples Center, but topped it off with a magnicent 7-22 performance in the fatal Game 6 massacre.

Last year's Finals was the first since 1998 to not feature either Tim Duncan or Shaquille O'Neal. And in 1996-98, there was a guy named Michael Jordan on the floor.

Face it Laker fans - your boy is simply not in the pantheon of a Duncan or an O'Neal. This fact was glaringly evident last year.

And will be equally so come summer time this year.

And what nobody ever talks about is another fact - if it weren't for the Gasol trade, Bryant probably would have whined himself out of LA because he "didn't have any help." So by his own admission he needs a significant big man to win a ring for him. The rest of the world already knows this. But the heads of Laker fans are so far up the entrails of Mr. Bryant that they can't see the forest for the trees.

[TheManFromAcme]

ElNono and JWest596...............quit wearing your emmotions on your sleeves. This Spurs sight is for everyone and yes, even trolling Laker fans. If the mods live with it, so can both of you. In fact, you have no choice but to live with it and if you choose, ignore dialogue with myself and other annoying Laker fans and spew B.S. among yourselves. You guys don't know how to have fun with this and take things personally. Get over yourselves.

The Spurs front and back court don't match well with the Lakers even with the addition of a big. You can throw all the tall guys you want but you lack overall athleticsm even with Drew out. Grant it, I'll give that Hill kid major props. He's up and coming and will be a factor for years to come but come on now enough is enough with your obvious desperation to have your team taken really seriously. I take them seriously and still consider them a threat but $$$ says Lakers are the sure bet. Call it a hunch.

I know you guys are worried what the next couple of years will bring. T.D., although still very effective, is at some point going to retire. Manu? Well, Manu is Manu and a heck of a threat. Tony? Mr. Rollercoaster himself if he can somehow provide more consistency you guys can be dangerous on a night in, night out basis.

Tell you what. If it makes you feel better I'll add this:

The Spurs are of course still somewhat of a threat. Damn good coach. Good organization of course the best power foward to play the game in T.D. if you'll concede that the Lakers even with Drew out are a much better team than the Spurs and that overall your goose is cooked for the next couple of years.

What do you say?

[Phenomanul]

Charlotte Bobcats >> L.A. Lakers

[HarlemHeat37]

we've all acknowledged that the Lakers frontcourt is our main problem, and we probably wouldn't beat them without a trade, IF Bynum is healthy..

Lamar Odom is NOT a concern..he couldn't even dominate Oberto last year, so he's not even going to be a worry for us..he's one of the most inconsistent, overrated players in the NBA..he's the same player as last year..

we have yet to see a healthy Bynum have more than a 2-3 week stretch of good basketball in his entire career..there's absolutely no guarantee he's going to be healthy in May, let alone back to his peak level..it's also funny that nobody mentions the first game, where Duncan dominated him outside of the 1st, where he was settling for Js..

Gasol doesn't play well when Duncan guards him, we've seen that throughout his career..

if Bynum isn't healthy, WE WILL beat the Lakers, even without a move..the addition of Ariza is cancelled out by a healthy Manu..and then you throw in Hill, Mason, and a useful Bonner..the difference is Jermaine O'Bynum, which is where we would need a trade..

[DrHouse]

It is funny to see Spur fan get all riled up, it's quite clear the Lakers are in their heads no matter how much they don't want to admit it. If there is any franchise that has gotten the best of the Spurs over the last decade it is without question the Lakers. the Spurs would probably be sitting on 5-7 championships right now if it wasn't for the Lakers.

The Lakers had to rebuild after Shaq left. Why you choose to criticize Bryant for not being able to lead Smush Parker, Kwame Brown, etc. to a championship is an exercise in stupidity. The fact is as soon as Kobe got teammates worth a damn he took them to the Finals. But they clearly weren't ready to beat BOS last season. The parallels to 1984 are so eery, Lakers were the clear favorites that season as well but ultimately folded to BOS's physical play. This season they appear to be on a mission, playing with a chip on their shoulder. They are matching the physical play of teams like BOS and CLE and taking it to them.

The bottom line is with a healthy Andrew Bynum none of this even matters. The talent disparity is so huge that the little intangibles that might favor the Spurs may not matter at all. They simply cannot compete against a healthy frontline of Odom, Gasol, and Bynum with Bonner, Thomas, and Duncan. It's just not happening, and neither regular season game has shown any inkling that it will.