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    If a Detroit beat writer thinks that Pistons should buy out Sheed, maybe this scenario isn't as crazy as it seems.

    And in the unlikely case of Sheed being waived before the end of the month, Spurs won't be the only team interested. You could end up with a nightmare scenario of Sheed going to another contender.
    His choices would be Cavs, Celtics, Lakers, Spurs and a long shot Hornets.

    He could and probably is the missing piece for all those teams. And all those teams would want him.

    I could see him going to any of those teams in this order:
    1. Cavs
    2. Celtics/Spurs
    3. Lakers
    4. Hornets

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    There is a strong possibility that they won't even make the playoffs.
    If they keep Curry, I agree with you. There's plenty of talent on that team to make the ECF and compete with whoever's there.

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    Pistons' Wallace fined $25K for throwing towel

    Detroit Pistons forward Rasheed Wallace was fined $25,000 by the league Friday for his actions after his ejection in the team's 90-87 loss at New Orleans on Wednesday night.

    Wallace was ejected after receiving two technicals in the fourth quarter. His first technical was for arguing a call and the second came when he tossed a towel into the stands. Before leaving, Wallace then tossed a towel toward the floor.

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    We don't want Sheed.

    1. Sheed loses it in pressure situations.
    2. The Spurs plan to be in a lot of pressure situations between March and June.
    3. 2005 Finals, see 1 and 2 above.

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    He wouldn't act that way if he came to the Spurs. Oh, and remember the difference in the way Dennis Rodman acted when he was a Spur compared to when he got to the Bulls?
    Sheed would be great under a coach he respects like LB Pop would be the same. That being said Joe is not going to buy him out however I hope you get him this summer.

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    Any benefits for them to do that?

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    Sheed would be great under a coach he respects like LB Pop would be the same. That being said Joe is not going to buy him out however I hope you get him this summer.
    I think more than likely we will end up with him this summer.

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    Sheed!!

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    I think more than likely we will end up with him this summer.
    It would not shock me one bit if he walked away from the game too he is an odd cat.

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    We don't want Sheed.

    1. Sheed loses it in pressure situations.
    2. The Spurs plan to be in a lot of pressure situations between March and June.
    3. 2005 Finals, see 1 and 2 above.
    Sheed hit a huge turnaround over Duncan in game 5 to give the Pistons a 4 point lead in OT, right before Rob's dunk. He was also the only one doing anything for them offensively in the 4th quarter of game 7. He was automatic on the block that game. Of course, he did try to call timeout with none left when Tim missed the tip-in at the end of regulation in game 5, and he committed the same cardinal sin as half the rest of the league has: leaving Robert Horry open at the end of the game. Still, there's no denying he was the final cog in the engine to making the Pistons into a championship team, and he came 12 minutes from repeating. He's my first choice in free agency this summer.

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    and he committed the same cardinal sin as half the rest of the league has



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    If I can't have Sheed...

    I'll opt for McDyess.

    http://www.mlive.com/pistons/index.s..._leave_pi.html

    Antonio McDyess could leave Pistons after season
    by A. Sherrod Blakely
    Tuesday February 24, 2009, 11:15 PM

    MIAMI -- There was little doubt forward Antonio McDyess left all he had on the floor in Detroit's 103-91 loss to Miami on Tuesday.

    It's been like that throughout his time in Detroit, which may be coming to an end after this season.

    McDyess, who had 17 points and six rebounds against the Heat, is expected to opt out of his contract this summer and become a free agent.

    Detroit remains an option, but the team's struggles may lead to McDyess choose to play elsewhere.

    "I hate to sell myself short of anything at this point in my career," McDyess said. "So I have to keep all my options open."

    When McDyess became a free agent this fall after reaching a buyout agreement with Denver, several teams pursued him vigorously.

    McDyess considered Charlotte, Cleveland and Boston before re-signing with the Pistons.

    "It was flattering, because I didn't have a clue that all those teams were interested in me, not at this point in my career," McDyess said.

    Those teams and others undoubtedly will be interested in signing the veteran big man this summer.

    McDyess remains focused on helping Detroit get into the playoffs, which is becoming a much tougher challenge than he or his teammates thought.

    If the right changes are made with Detroit's roster this summer, McDyess said he would consider signing a deal that would allow him to finish his playing career with the Pistons.

    "I just have to see how everything is going to go in the summer with this team, and kind of go from there," McDyess said. "But like I said, it's flattering that there are some teams that still think I can help them win. I definitely feel I have some options
    Yeah Tod, I'll take Dice as my option 1a this summer too.

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    Sheed first choice.

    McDyess second shoice

    Rasho third choice

    All would good starters.

    Oberto and Thomas would be back-ups.

    Ian would be developed to see what he can bring.

    If we can get Sheed, then I think that we are an elite team with as good a chance to win it all as anyone- provided that Tim and Tony are healthy. And if Manu is healthy, then we are the prohibitive favorites to win the le.

    But all of that is next year.

    I wish we had a a decent second big who could start alongside Timmy this year.

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    Sheed hit a huge turnaround over Duncan in game 5 to give the Pistons a 4 point lead in OT, right before Rob's dunk. He was also the only one doing anything for them offensively in the 4th quarter of game 7. He was automatic on the block that game. Of course, he did try to call timeout with none left when Tim missed the tip-in at the end of regulation in game 5, and he committed the same cardinal sin as half the rest of the league has: leaving Robert Horry open at the end of the game. Still, there's no denying he was the final cog in the engine to making the Pistons into a championship team, and he came 12 minutes from repeating. He's my first choice in free agency this summer.
    Yeah, I know, he was awesome in the 4th of games 5 and 7, hitting fadeaway after tough fadeaway, but he is also very mentally fragile and has just gone for his 16th tech while he's 35 years old.

    I agree that he was the catalyst for their trophy in 2004, but it's 2009 and I'm not convinced he has very much left in the tank. I have Dennis Rodman style playoff meltdown feelings too.

    If we can nab him cheap for a year with the second at the team's option, I'm up for it, but he'll be looking for 3 years@ the MLE at least, and I'm not sure I want to gove that to a mentally fragile 35yo who would basically become our 2nd big until Tim retires.

    I'm ready to go with youth in the middle and spend money on an athletic, slashing wing to replace Manu in a few years.

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    I agree that he was the catalyst for their trophy in 2004, but it's 2009 and I'm not convinced he has very much left in the tank. I have Dennis Rodman style playoff meltdown feelings too.
    I don't see that as a very valid comparison. Rasheed's never been found sleeping in his truck with a loaded shotgun. Rasheed's not an attention the way Rodman has been since leaving Detroit. Nothing about Wallace says 'it's all about me' the way Rodman acted.

    If we can nab him cheap for a year with the second at the team's option, I'm up for it, but he'll be looking for 3 years@ the MLE at least, and I'm not sure I want to gove that to a mentally fragile 35yo who would basically become our 2nd big until Tim retires.

    I'm ready to go with youth in the middle and spend money on an athletic, slashing wing to replace Manu in a few years.
    You and I differ bigtime here. I think this team has 2 years max after this season in their window of opportunity to win a le (and that really is a best-case projection IMO). Rasheed still has another good year or two in him, and the Spurs have to build to win now at all costs, because they are never going to get another Tim Duncan from anywhere but the draft. Superstar players don't leave big markets to sign in sleepy San Antonio, and the all-time greats only get traded when they want to force their way somewhere. If it takes 3 years to get Sheed, I'm down, because the team isn't going to sign anyone worth a damn in 2010, just like they couldn't in 2003 when they were young, the defending champions, and the only team with any money.

    San Antonio is not going to compete with New York, Brooklyn, and Miami in the free agent bonanza of 2010. Instead, they're going to overpay on mid-level talent just like everyone else will, because 2010 is going to be a massive seller's market in free agency. Here's a list of teams currently setup to have $10+ million capspace for summer 2010:

    1. Boston
    2. Brooklyn / New Jersey (massively under)
    3. New York (massively under)
    4. Toronto
    5. Chicago (massively under)
    6. Cleveland (even if they re-sign James!)
    7. Detroit (if they don't spend their capspace this summer)
    8. Atlanta (massively under)
    9. Miami (even if they re-sign Wade, they still have max capspace)
    10. Houston
    11. Memphis (massively under)
    12. SPURS
    13. Minnesota (massively under, even with Jefferson already signed long-term)
    14. Portland
    15. Oklahoma City (massively under)
    16. Utah
    17. Phoenix (even if Stoudemire doesn't opt out)
    18. Sacramento

    Almost 2/3 of the league is currently setup to have at least $10 million capspace in 2010, assuming the cap comes in no lower than about $55 million or so (it's $59 million this season). There's four players worth a max contract in that class; James, Wade, Stoudemire, Bosh. That's it. Maybe you could count Nowitzki even when he'll be 32, but I see no way Cuban is going to let him walk. The 2010 plan is a huge mistake that's both closing the Spurs le window now and likely leading them to horrible financial moves in the future. I cannot believe the team is putting all their eggs in that overcrowded basket.

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    If we can nab him cheap for a year with the second at the team's option, I'm up for it, but he'll be looking for 3 years@ the MLE at least, and I'm not sure I want to gove that to a mentally fragile 35yo who would basically become our 2nd big until Tim retires.
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    Also, you might be right on the 3 years, but the MLE is going to be his price tag most likely. There's not a lot of money out there for the summer of 2009. The teams with any capspace whatsoever over the MLE in 2009 are:

    1. Toronto: Doubt they'd rather throw money at Wallace than bring back Marion
    2. Detroit: Not gonna happen. The Youth movement has begun, and Rasheed's expiring contract is a major part of that.
    3. Atlanta: Already gave him away for nothing, and I don't see a lot of need with Al Horford, Josh Smith, and Marvin Williams already there.
    4. Memphis: Heisley's not paying top dollar for a guy at 35.
    5. Portland: Rasheed's only real shot at more than MLE, if their asshole owner decides he's going to block the Lakers, Celtics, or Spurs from signing him.
    6. OKC Thunder: No way they're signing an old guy like Sheed, especially when they can use Durant to sell a max FA like Wade or Stoudemire on championship hopes for a long time starting in 2010.
    7. Sacramento (maybe): Don't see it here either. See Memphis, OKC.

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