Would you rather have Tony Parker or Deron Williams?

[Yorae]

I like speed.

[mystargtr34]

I'll keep the proven finals mvp over Deron any day. Deron has yet to prove that he can be a winner at the nba level. He could just be another marbury or Tim hardaway. Always putting up really respectable numbers but never leading a team to the le. Tony has already done that.

TP no doubt he has 3 rings and 1 finals mvp: he is a proven winner, Deron is a proven damn good player thats a big difference, why taking the risk ? tp is perfect for the spurs.

I couldnt help but pick these out and Lol at them. First, Parker has the modern games greatest winner and best PF of all time, and a top 3 closer, and one of the leagues best players in Manu.

Deron, has a notorious choker in Carlos Boozer as his side kick, and a bunch of good role players.

Saying TP>Deron because TP has a Finals MVP and 'lead' his team to a championship has HOMER written all over it.

Having said that, i think its too close to call between the two, i dont think i would swap TP and Deron on the Spurs, id keep Parker. But if i were starting a franchise from scratch, i would take Deron over Tony, i think he has a little bit more to his game.

But like i said, i wouldnt swap Tony with Deron.

[Agloco]

No...that's not what I'm saying. Read my posts. What I've said is that I would pick Tony because Tony fits perfectly into our system. No offense to Deron, at all. And if you DID read this thread before arguing, you would have noticed that the reason I even said anything is because the guy said the only reason anyone would say they would pick Tony over Deron is because they're a homer. Stupid comment, so I argued it.

I did, and this is what you said:

Exactly...he fits perfectly into the system. And it's true...Tim led us through the playoffs, and Tony led us in the Finals..but that's what I was saying to the other guy...Tony was the guy in the Finals...and Deron hasn't even been there.

So my response was ask you if you think Tony would have fared any better if he was in Deron's shoes. Do you think Tony would have won a le in Utah alongside AK47 and C-Booz? I noticed you conveniently ducked the question.....

A simple yes or no will suffice.

[mystargtr34]

For the first time...I agree with Sequ Spur!

TP gets no love...it's absolutely amazing!!

Its just a topic of discussion, just because people say Deron > Parker doesnt mean they are hating on Parker.

TP is unbelievable, one of the best players in the league, probably playing THE BEST right now. But Deron has had stretches like this, and hes a pretty damn good player himself.

Nothing wrong with saying Deron > Parker, or vice versa.

[mystargtr34]

I did, and this is what you said:



So my response was ask you if you think Tony would have fared any better if he was in Deron's shoes. Do you think Tony would have won a le in Utah alongside AK47 and C-Booz? I noticed you conveniently ducked the question.....

A simple yes or no will suffice.

Ill answer it for you,

No.

[MarHill]

Its just a topic of discussion, just because people say Deron > Parker doesnt mean they are hating on Parker.

TP is unbelievable, one of the best players in the league, probably playing THE BEST right now. But Deron has had stretches like this, and hes a pretty damn good player himself.

Nothing wrong with saying Deron > Parker, or vice versa.

Maybe so....

I just think there shouldn't be any question with him. I like Deron Williams a lot...but TP has worked perfectly for the Spurs and he has developed over the years.

There shouldn't be any discussion!!

It still seems like it's a backhanded compliment....Oh well I guess people will never be satisfied.

[ThaiFanofSpurs]

This is such a homer question. If you pick Parker you are one

Very stupid comment! Said it without reasoning point. Just want to frustate other posters. No respect for the topic.

For me, it's still Tony Parker. He has proved it what he can do in the playoffs and final. Especially in the past few years. I also think his at ude blends well with Tim, Manu, teammates, and very important with Pop. He compe ive and trainable. His goal is also about winning rather than money. Well, this is my opinion atleast.

[smrattler]

I would take TP over Paul for our team.

But Deron? I don't know, that's a toss up.

I like Tony though, so, go Frenchie (but down with the rest of the French)!!!!

[Rogue]

Deron

agreed. Parker is a good player and did two perfect jobs in the past two games, but he's still far from a superstar caliber PG like Deron. with fancinating moves and cute shooting skills, deron always makes the biggest threat to his opponent team. Jazz played over half of the season without Boozer and Okur also missed plenty of games this season, Deron is the only answer to the question why the Jazz is still staying afloat in the tough west.

Parker played two big games recently, but I bet Duncan will have to come back in 2 or 3 games when Parker starts to suck. in rushing a fast break with flashing speed, tony parker is pretty effective and always good enough to score nearly 40pts. but the games always run out of tony's control when they lie into half-court offense.

[mystargtr34]

TP is as much a superstar caliber PG as Deron is.

[Spurtacus]

Tony Parker.

[ThaiFanofSpurs]

Tony for many reasons. hypothetically thinking. Tony is a 3 time champion, 3 time all-star, Nba Finals MVP etc etc....He is just a great player. I love derron Williams too though, lot of respect for that guy.

Agree. After Tp, I think I will take Williams. What seperate these two is their at udes. Tony does not blame teammates. I remember there was one year (I think 2007 when the Jazz lost to the Spurs in the Western Final), Deron Williams blamed teammates for the loss. I have never seen Tp blame anybody when the Spurs lost in the playoffs.

[DPG21920]

For the first time...I agree with Sequ Spur!

TP gets no love...it's absolutely amazing!!

Having a debate about two great players does not mean that people do not like TP. I hate how many people associate any thing that is not direct praise with "no love".

Obviously TP is a fantastic player and vital to the Spurs success. But it is not an insult to pose a question about him compared to another talented point guard.

Would you be offended if someone asked who would you rather have, Wade or Manu?

[SAhoops]

TP! Hands Down!

[ThaiFanofSpurs]

hahahahah drop the crack man

without duncan, the spurs wouldnt even be sniffing out of the first round or suns....tony parker vs gibson we all know who was going to exploit that matchup.

give me deron williams, cp3 or even derick rose....

I don't smoke I don't dirnk and I still think of Tony over Deron. The reason is with him, we have won 3 championships and each time when we didn't win, we were almost there. I don't know if we had Deron! We might have won more or maybe none. Nobody can prove that. But I will go with what I have seen. It's more logical.

[spursbsktball73]

Tony all the way. Deron is more a scorer than team leader.

[spursbsktball73]

Thai is on crack.... Cp3 williams rose??? What a joke. Do u know b ball. How many rings do yhey have all together u moron?? None!!!!!!!!! He was the finals m v p.

[ThaiFanofSpurs]

so your telling me either of these combinations wont win a ring?
td+gino+deron 06/07
td+gino+cp3 07/08
td+gino+nash 04/05-06/07

offensive structure will be different with these pgs running the system, but you will see it more team orientated.

Td is the main core, Manu is a spark without ego, Nash is a good passer. This combo, we might have won... maybe. But I still think Tony is a better defender than Nash. So, Tony is still over Nash in my opinion.

For Cp3 and Deron, I have less confidence. I think both of them have a mentality of wanting to be the leader (I mean want to be the main core) which we already have in Td.

Again, for the Spurs, I think Tony fits best for the system and chemistry.

[Pelicans78]

CP3>TP>D-Will

It's a fact. Williams maybe physically gifted, but Parker has better instincts and his speed makes him so dangerous on the floor. Even though Williams is thought to be the superior outside shooter, Parker always shoots a higher FG%.

[ThaiFanofSpurs]

Thai is on crack.... Cp3 williams rose??? What a joke. Do u know b ball. How many rings do yhey have all together u moron?? None!!!!!!!!! He was the finals m v p.

I don't smoke and I don't drink. I do know B Ball. I post my opinion carefully. Maybe I might struggle a little bit when I say something because English is not my first language. But look at the post carefully. You responded to my post where I responded to TDMVPDPOY. I did not say in that post that I would go with Cp3 williams rose. For me, TP is our man. Now who is a moron... be more respectful for other please.

[raspsa]

Agree. After Tp, I think I will take Williams. What seperate these two is their at udes. Tony does not blame teammates. I remember there was one year (I think 2007 when the Jazz lost to the Spurs in the Western Final), Deron Williams blamed teammates for the loss. I have never seen Tp blame anybody when the Spurs lost in the playoffs.

I think Deron was justified in that instance.. was it Kirilenko who was reported to have confirmed his vacation plans even while the series was ongoing.. what kind of message was he sending to his team.. and if I recall right, Deron was playing with a badly swollen ankle at the time..

[raspsa]

TP is as much a superstar caliber PG as Deron is.

Agreed. I just seem to get the impression that Parker goes thru more extreme highs (like the past few games) and lows (like the slump preceding the last several games) than Deron does.. I really don't follow Deron's games that much but somehow I think that he may be a bit more consistent than parker.

[ThaiFanofSpurs]

I think Deron was justified in that instance.. was it Kirilenko who was reported to have confirmed his vacation plans even while the series was ongoing.. what kind of message was he sending to his team.. and if I recall right, Deron was playing with a badly swollen ankle at the time..

Yes, I remember now. I felt sorry for Williams.

Anyway, I still take Tp over Williams. It looks like Williams is more consistent than Tp but it's still in the regular season. I think Tp always plays a step higher in the playoffs.

[dav4463]

Tony Parker has that intangible something that leads to championships. He fits perfectly in the Spurs system. He was strong enough to take criticism, learn from mistakes, play well facing trade rumors. He improves himself every year by working harder than the other guys. Deron Williams is good, but so is Parker and Parker fits perfectly here.

[Old School 44]

TP is as much a superstar caliber PG as Deron is.

+1

I just don't think Tony has had the same opportunity to show it because he has played on better teams. I also believe Tony could have just as many assist as Deron and Chris, if he were in their systems and was more the focal point. Tony's assists are lower in comparison because of the way the Spurs play. Many of his drives and kicks result in a second pass leading to a basket. Where Deron, Chris, and even Steve Nash have the ball in their hands longer in each possession.