It doesn't matter who starts, if Nazr plays 20-25 minutes, I will be happy.
The real issue is who will finish the close games in the playoffs. Currently, it is Horry job to play with Tim in the money time but Nazr has a shot because he is a real center, something between Rasho and Robert.
Instead of bashing one of them, we should be happy to have both.
Miami and Detroit have impressive big mens rotations (Wallaces-McDyess and Shaq-Zo-Harlem-Doleac) and we will need all players available to support Tim.
AHF and Pop suck...so let me get this straight...In addition to Nazr's obvious offensive rebounding and put back abilities..
You guys are also claiming; he's a great passer, an unselfish passer, a great jumpshooter, and he's going to become a great shotblocker and defender in our system?
Stupid me, I didn't realize the guy was ing Kareem Abdul Jabbar.
Dumb s.
Hey, Malik hit a 3 pointer once, I guess that means he's a great 3 point shooter.
no it just means the guy is a better player than Malik Rose
but your chidish blue and white number 13 glasses hide the truth.
Dumb s? Try watching a game sometime numbnuts. , why trust my own eyes and what I've seen Nazr do so far when I can have stupid ing New Yorker posting on a random bulletin board tell me the guy sucks?
What kind of dumbass Rose colored glasses logic is that, anyway?
Have you watched Nazr play? I've seen him hit jumpers in different games for SA. I've seen him block shots in multiple games and know he can do that sort of thing (I mean, you're obviously a ty shot blocker if you can *only* claim an 8 block game to your credit this year), and I've seen him do some great passing already for this team (certainly better than any Malik "I Wanna be like Manu" Rose Special pass that ended up in the fifth row).
The biggest thing to me though is he doesn't force it on offense, the ball movement doesn't stop when it gets to him, and he gets his points off garbage offensive rebounds, not trying to go one on five with the other team's whole front line standing over him waiting to block his shot.
Pop said last night that Nazr is doing very, very well and is doing everything they expected of him. But hey, I guess a bunch of random anonymous New Yawkas posting on some Knicks fan site somewhere on the net should trump Pop too...
Nazr > Rose
David Robinson > The Coyote
Silly rabbit, Trix's are for kids.
You're the silly one if you really think Rose > Nazr.
Two years from now Spurs fans will look back on Rose like they look back on AJ.
Sure, he was nice at the time, but since then we've had a significant talent upgrade at the position.
Was that directed towards me?You're the silly one if you really think Rose > Nazr.
Because what I put was:
Nazr > Rose
Eh, my bad, I thought you were mocking some other denizens who said the opposite.
All this they got me taking for the flu is messing with the mind.
And then you're stuck without a pivot on the bench again. Between Nazr and Rasho, they make like one MAX contract. Get rid of Barry, by all means, but there's no point in dumping a servicable pivot to go back to veteran forward du jour off the bench.If this keeps up, I like the possibilities of packaging Rasho and maybe Barry to get a great small forward, or a package of shooting guards and forwards.
It was directed towards Whottt who is ragging on Nazr and who thinks The Coyote means more to the Spurs than David.
Man this guy seems to always be spot on...
We need a backup center, that's why we got Narz in the first place so why trade away Rasho and be in the same position we were in to start?
We won't trade Rasho. We'll use a 3 big rotation with Tim, Nazr, and Rasho, and you've got Marks and Scola as deep bench foul fodder.
They didn't say he sucks, nor did I. It's just that he's just got flaws and you're acting like he's fuking Hakeem Olajuwon and no one realized it until now.
Yes.What kind of dumbass Rose colored glasses logic is that, anyway?
Have you watched Nazr play?
Like two of them so far. I also saw him take a jumper from 5 feet out that looked like a Nolan Ryan fastball.I've seen him hit jumpers in different games for SA.
I've seen Barry block mutiple shots in multiple games, does that mean he's a shotblocker too?I've seen him block shots in multiple games and know he can do that sort of thing (I mean, you're obviously a ty shot blocker if you can *only* claim an 8 block game to your credit this year)
That 8 blocks is a career high...one game does not a shotblocker make.
You know what makes a guy a shotblocker? #1.He doesn't say, "I'm not a shotblocker", for starters. #2. He averages a least a block per game...I think that's a fair minimum standard for qualifying him as a shotblocker.
Yeah, nothing says great passer like his career .05 APG average. Can you find someone with a lower APG average? I couldn't. Besides, there's a different between being able to pass and being willing too.and I've seen him do some great passing already for this team (certainly better than any Malik "I Wanna be like Manu" Rose Special pass that ended up in the fifth row).
Whatever, at least Malik wasn't afraid to take it inside.The biggest thing to me though is he doesn't force it on offense, the ball movement doesn't stop when it gets to him, and he gets his points off garbage offensive rebounds, not trying to go one on five with the other team's whole front line standing over him waiting to block his shot.
LMAO, amazing how much you like Pop when it suits your argument.Pop said last night that Nazr is doing very, very well and is doing everything they expected of him. But hey, I guess a bunch of random anonymous New Yawkas posting on some Knicks fan site somewhere on the net should trump Pop too...
Since you like Pop so much...let's go back and look at your comments that trading Malik would not affect team chemistry...because I've seen Pop say it has affected the chemistry.
I think the guys got some skills that can help the team...but you aren't being realistic about it...the way you describe this guy he should be a franchise center....well he isn't...he's played on losers his entire career, he's been traded many times, he's been more of a bench player than a starter in his career,...he is what he is. The Knicks have a better record since trading him.
Malik was a flawed player too...in fact I think he and Nazr have some similar flaws(fouls for one)...but you are going overboard acting like this guy is an All Star and no one saw it but us.
And coming to the Spurs does not instantly turn players into All Stars...Rasho...Hedo...Smitty...Barry. The Spurs aren't miracle workers....And this guy has flaws. But keep blowing smoke up your ass if it makes you feel better about your Malik hate.
Whottt has this thread owned. Spurs fans act like Malik Rose was the scrub of all scrubs, while Nazr Mohammed is the next Hakeem.
Let's be realistic.
He's a good player who can get a lot of offensive rebounds. He's not as strong of a defensive rebounder, but he's pretty solid. He goes up strong. He tries hard on defense but doesn't appear to have great timing in going for blocks. He looks like a good teammate and a good character fit.
On the other hand, he doesn't have a reliable jumper of any kind. He fouls a lot. He's never performed for a good team and has never scored a point in a playoff game. He's shown the ability to play well as a starter but hasn't played too well off the bench. Has an injury riddled past.
Overall, if he keeps up this level of play he'll be a good addition. He's big and long and will help continue the Spurs' twin tower legacy.
But lets not make him out to be some kind of all-star in the making or anything.
Actually, it's a 0.5 lifetime APG, so he's a ten times better passer than you think, whottt.
It's amazing how many people now think this guy is a great passer off the basis of one or two plays.
Reminds me of when Artis Gilmore played for the Celtics for about ten hot minutes. He made one behind the head pass out of the pivot his first game for them, and everyone started talking about how he could run the high post for them.
Funny how you say such things and then write this in your article...
This year, Mohammed was having his finest season as a pro with the Knicks. He was the everyday starting center and was even getting All-Star recognition.“He has a real knack for the ball -- a good rebounder,” said head coach Gregg Popovich about his team’s newest player. “He moves well defensively to where we want him to go on the court. He understands pretty quickly. He's going for blocked shots. He isn't hesitating, if he's open he's taking shots. He’s a good passer (Whottt?), so we like what we see.”
act I
the big men
-nazr walks into practice, after a full night of thinking it over he walks up to robert horry, who is talking to devin brown about golf, devin brown then turns away to talk to beno about golf
their 6-10 frames meet at center court
nazr- "you. go your way, i'll go mine. carry on"
horry understands and is not angry at the potentially volitile statement
tony massenburg walks away from devin browns conversation about golf
T Mass- "and then we'll get paid... DIVIDENDS!!!!!"
duncan walks in
Duncan- "nazr, was that crosby, stills and nash?
sean marks had been quietly observing the scene
marks- "and young"
duncan- "sweet"
damn.
Did TIMVP just get OWNED by User???? :shock
1. We don't know the full context of that quote. The interviewer could have said "do you see yourself as more of an offensive rebounder, or a shot blocker."You know what makes a guy a shotblocker? #1.He doesn't say, "I'm not a shotblocker", for starters. #2. He averages a least a block per game...I think that's a fair minimum standard for qualifying him as a shotblocker.
Answers to media questions can be spun however the writer wants to..
2. He's averaging one block per game, go figure.
Look, no one is saying the guy is Hakeem, or the starting all-star center for the west next year.
We are saying he's a better rebounder, particularly on the offensive end, than Rose. He's bigger, clears out more space in the paint, and doesn't get in the way on offense or kill the ball movement on offense like a certain recently departed 6'4" wannabe All-Star backup big man.
Is he Hakeem? No. Is he a significant upgrade inside with room to grow under the tutelage of the Spurs coaching staff? yes.
It cracks me up that the Spurs coaching staff has brought in project players in the past (among them Rose, Devin Brown, SJax, etc.) that they have developed into solid players, but none of the Rose lovers on this site are affording the opportunity for Nazr to work on his game under the Spurs coaching staff.
As much as some of you bag on me for cracking on Rose or Pop, some of you are being as bad if not worse about hating on Nazr and thinking he'll never improve with the help of the coaching staff. Pot, meet kettle.
I find it particularly humorous that someone can sayabout the guy.has never scored a point in a playoff game.
You could say that about guys like LeBron and Gilbert Arenas too, but I bet you'd take them on this team. disclaimer: I am not saying Nazr is as good as either, just that neither have scored a point in a playoff game, which some are using as a criteria for judgment of Nazr
Oh, and LJ, just to do a little fact checking, according to Nazr's bio
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/nazr_m....html?nav=page
He's averaged six per game in 7 career playoff games played. I don't mean to pile on to user's callout, but looks like someone who just wrote an article on Nazr needs to do a little more research
^^^
BURN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lmao just kiddin bro.
As much as some of you bag on me for cracking on Rose or Pop, some of you are being as bad if not worse about hating on Nazr and thinking he'll never improve with the help of the coaching staff. Pot, meet kettle.
A in men brother.
Aggie is the freakin man in this thread.
Uh oh, the T Park kiss of death!
^ how so.
Because Im supporting Nazr? Or Im agreeing with aggie.
Uhhh, both I guess!
And that I also agree with most of your Nazr statements.
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