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    In that scenario, not signing the ticket is an arrestable offense (unless TX law varies). It is your bond. IIRC, some dude in Utah or Arizona found out the hard way and got tazed for it.

    EDIT: Found it, guy doesn't listen to instructions too well.

    http://www.break.com/index/dude-taze...ng-ticket.html


    Once the ticket is written up, it's pointless to argue then and there. You're only going to make it worse for yourself.

    You're much better off saving it for the judge.
    Perhaps -- and it worked out well in my case, since the judge was the one person in the process who realized just how absurd the ticket was (and did so without any need for argument from me). I don't think, however, that it's unreasonable for a citizen to inquire about the basis and the justification for a ticket before signing the ticket. And I don't think it's particularly reasonable for an officer to threaten arrest upon the first inquiry into why the stop resulted in a ticket rather than a warning or simply a notification.

    Of course, I've been more vocal in disagreeing with officers who stop me after some experiences earlier in life. While returning to school after spring break, I was stopped on Interstate 10 for driving "su ously slowly," after I stayed slightly below the speed limit while coming down a relatively steep hill and seeing a trooper's car in the median at the bottom. The stop went even further than that. I wasn't just stopped for that "offense;" but I was made to get out of the car, patted down, and asked to sit about 100 feet in front of my vehicle while the interior and trunk were searched (I consented, but only because I didn't want to wait for the guy to get a warrant). The result of the stop? A ticket for an expired inspection.

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    Che cazzo stai dicendo? DisgruntledLionFan#54,927's Avatar
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    I don't think, however, that it's unreasonable for a citizen to inquire about the basis and the justification for a ticket before signing the ticket. And I don't think it's particularly reasonable for an officer to threaten arrest upon the first inquiry into why the stop resulted in a ticket rather than a warning or simply a notification.
    Of course not, but in my experience, you're best suited doing that before the ticket is written.

    And politely.

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    Afford? I paid 9k for the car. Thats it. Maybe only an asshole who can afford a 500 dollar a month payment should be ticketed.
    Sure. But perception is reality, especially to a busybody cop that would actually write a ticket for something like you got yours for. Maybe he's got penis envy or thinks you're loaded 'cause you roll in a Corvette.

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    If I actually broke the law I could how something like a record could factor in. I broke no law.
    what was the section the cop used on the ticket?

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    I like it when people re-tell stories, and they throw in that they had some really witty, Dawson's-Creek-verbiage-type rebuttal that completely put the story's villain in their place.

    Sorry about your ticket, though, Pacey.
    So you watched a lot of Dawson's Creek?

    what was the section the cop used on the ticket?
    I didn't even look I just read the hand written load of garbage. Surely he checked a box for lane change or something. No speeding and no mph were listed.

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    I didn't even look I just read the hand written load of garbage. Surely he checked a box for lane change or something. No speeding and no mph were listed.
    I'm wondering if he tried getting you for 'passing on the right'

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    So you watched a lot of Dawson's Creek?

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    I'm wondering if he tried getting you for 'passing on the right'
    wouldn't I have had to return to the previous lane?

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    In that scenario, not signing the ticket is an arrestable offense (unless TX law varies). It is your bond. IIRC, some dude in Utah or Arizona found out the hard way and got tazed for it.

    EDIT: Found it, guy doesn't listen to instructions too well.

    http://www.break.com/index/dude-taze...ng-ticket.html


    Once the ticket is written up, it's pointless to argue then and there. You're only going to make it worse for yourself.

    You're much better off saving it for the judge.
    Ballijuana's girlfriend is kinda cute.

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    I like it when people re-tell stories, and they throw in that they had some really witty, Dawson's-Creek-verbiage-type rebuttal that completely put the story's villain in their place.

    Sorry about your ticket, though, Pacey.

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    wouldn't I have had to return to the previous lane?
    I could be wrong, but I don't think you do.

    Sec. 545.057. Passing to the Right.
    (a) An operator may pass to the right of another vehicle only if conditions permit safely passing to the right and:

    (1) the vehicle being passed is making or about to make a left turn; and

    (2) the operator is:
    (A) on a highway
    having unobstructed pavement not occupied by parked vehicles and sufficient width for two or more lines of moving vehicles in each direction; or
    (B) on a one-way street or on a roadway having traffic restricted to one direction of movement and the roadway is free from obstructions and wide enough for two or more lines of moving vehicles.
    (b) An operator may not pass to the right by leaving the main traveled portion of a roadway except as provided by Section 545.058.

    http://www.fastlaws.com/index.php?id=txtn545_057
    It's why I'm curious as to what he got you on.

    I think you can win this one easily enough in court because "passing" is a judgement call on the policeman.

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    Thats some good info.

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    Why did you change lanes?

    If you did it because you were pissed that you got cutoff and wanted to get in front of or next to the dude that cut you off, then perhaps the officer's interpretation of your aggressive driving was accurate.

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    Why did you change lanes?

    If you did it because you were pissed that you got cutoff and wanted to get in front of or next to the dude that cut you off, then perhaps the officer's interpretation of your aggressive driving was accurate.
    if...if....if...if...if...if and so ing on.

    I changed lanes because the asshole was in my way. The officer can't be accurate because I never got back in the previous lane. I never taunted the guy and furthermore interpretation unless founded isn't a crime.

    Changing ing lanes isn't a crime.

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    So you watched a lot of Dawson's Creek?
    Enough to have you figured out.

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    :gasp: a police officer illegally profiling me. Never.

    A pattern means nothing you can't ticket someone because you think they might do something. I have had tickets and each one of them was legit however I haven't been ticketed for over 4 years.
    Oh sorry I thought you said you had just paid off some tickets, I didn't realize you meant 4 yrs ago. And you're right a pattern doesn't mean anything to the cop here. I meant there may be a pattern in your driving, that you, after some introspection, can see and correct.

    But probably not.

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    maybe you shouldnt have changed lanes?

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    Welcome to the real world.
    If you think this sucks, take the ticket to the Judge.
    Yea really. I went to traffic court a couple of weeks ago. I had a 15 over the limit speeding ticket. I had not been ticketed in almost 20 yrs. The judge was a total . He wouldn't even listen to me because he wouldn't let me speak because he was so busy chastising me about my irresponsibility. But as I sat there waiting for my turn, I heard him give breaks to every drunk, drug paraphanalia holder, no license, no insurance, leaving the scene of an accident asshole he talked to. I guess I didn't have enough crime on my record to warrant his consideration!!

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    if...if....if...if...if...if and so ing on.

    I changed lanes because the asshole was in my way. The officer can't be accurate because I never got back in the previous lane. I never taunted the guy and furthermore interpretation unless founded isn't a crime.

    Changing ing lanes isn't a crime.
    None of it is a crime, it's just a traffic violation, and all of those (with the exception of speeding captured on radar) are just the officer's interpretation of your driving.

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    I got off the highway and was pulled over almost immediately. The officer said "My right back tired crossed over the double white lines" and I got a ticket. I have to say I gave cops alot of in the past but not one time did they threaten to tow my wheels. Is this new?

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    Oh sorry I thought you said you had just paid off some tickets, I didn't realize you meant 4 yrs ago. And you're right a pattern doesn't mean anything to the cop here. I meant there may be a pattern in your driving, that you, after some introspection, can see and correct.

    But probably not.
    I did just pay off old tickets. Nothing recent only recently paid off.

    Enough to have you figured out.
    Whatever boosts your ego.

    None of it is a crime, it's just a traffic violation, and all of those (with the exception of speeding captured on radar) are just the officer's interpretation of your driving.
    I committed no violation. Its not a violation of the law to push your gas pedal and change lanes. It happens every ing day without incident.

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    you just recently paid off 4 yr. old tickets?

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    you just recently paid off 4 yr. old tickets?
    Actually 5 and 7 years old.

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    I love how you guys can justify anything regardless of whether or not it makes sense. No doubt that I could tell a story about being ticketed for jaywalking in a parking lot and some of you ing losers would offer a pathetic attempt to back it up. As if your interpretation of whats lawful or not makes more sense of the bull ticket being discussed. You guys are finding justification in the ticketing of a legal lane change because a man of the law says so. Great job comprehending on a logical level.

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    the only ticket i was ever happy to sign off on was... the one i got for going 75 mph on 410 when i was really hitting 105 mph. the cop didn't have his radar on and asked me how fast i thought i was going, so i said 70-75 instead of how fast i knew i really was going.

    took defensive driving online for that one... defensivedriving.com and i passed the test on that site by simply guessing without reading a question. couldn't have been more simple. i literally didn't read a damn question on the end of course test they give ya.

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