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Dampier>Shaq in most of these Spur homer minds. just because Shaq ruined the Suns he has to be the worst center in the league.
Dallas plays a traditional lineup. If Shaq could duplicate next year what he did this season, it would really help the Mavs out. That said, he can't guard the p'n'r to save his life. Still, I would imagine Dampier would have to go out to make the #s work, and you can't tell me Shaq isn't a huge upgrade over him.
Dampier>Shaq in most of these Spur homer minds. just because Shaq ruined the Suns he has to be the worst center in the league.
Shaq didn't ruin the Suns, going in too many different directions at once did.
I was actually making fun of Ghazi, who pretty much always claims everything is a lateral move. I actually think Shaq would address one problem the Mavs have: inside scoring. You kind of need that when you have pure shooters like Dirk and Terry.
let me try and put it this way. if you give a wealthy man a nasty glass of cranberry juice he probably wont take it, but if you offer it to a man who's been starved in the desert for a week, he'll take it without hesitation.
the Mavericks have been without an inside scoring option since........i dont even know.
at Dallas being a run and gun team like phoenix
like this is why you get replies like...
America, eatin' my lunch from a single bowl in my parents basement, where I'm livin'. Happy Birthday, I'm forty-three.
Don't want to waste those precious calories...chewin'. Jesus come move my jaw for me, help me get my sloppy food down my throat.
If you actually had an ounce of brains, I might spend some time debating with you. But seeing that you are the biggest on the board, you get this.
America, eatin' my lunch from a single bowl in my parents basement, where I'm livin'. Happy Birthday, I'm forty-three.
Don't want to waste those precious calories...chewin'. Jesus come move my jaw for me, help me get my sloppy food down my throat.
Even if the Mavs were somehow to get Shaq, it would not make as big a difference as some of us would like
Dirk/JET/Kidd/Shaq sounds like a star studded lineup but doesn't Amare/Nash/Shaq/J-Rich as well?
Doesn't work if you don't fix the D and the Mavs D is 17th this year. can't stop drives, can't guard the 3-PT line, and with Damp only getting like 25 minutes per that's half the game without a shot blocking presence on the court.
As much as we complain about a lack of offensive help for Dirk all things considered the Mavs are the 7th most efficient offense in basketball, which isn't elite but isn't horrible. The defense has been the biggest problem this year and if the Mavs had played defense this year like they did under Avery they'd be a top 4 seed right now.
I expected better from beloved Carlisle
The style of offense and effort on defense makes a BIG difference.
Shaq is a FAR superior interior defensive presence to Damp. That will help immensly on stopping drives, which allows the team to play the perimeter more. Not to mention, their inconsistent offense is a big reason why the defense has issues. If their offense was more consistent and efficient, it would help them immensely on defense. Not to mention the better rebounding that Shaq would provide on both ends of the court.
If you actually would watch the Mavs, you would see the issue on their offense is CONSISTENCY. That stat is inflated because at times, their offense is absolutely brutally unstoppable. But then there are times where its just awful, has no rhythm. Those are times when a post player will make a HUGE difference.
1. The Mavs defensive effort kinda sucks IMO, especially when the jumpers aren't falling.
2. I do not believe Shaq is FAR superior than Damp when it comes to defense.
3. IT goes both ways IMO. More consistent offense would lead to better defense but better defense would lead to transition opportunities and easy baskets for the offense. The two are interconnected undoubtedly which is why the Celtics, Lakers, Magic, and Cavs are all top 6 in the league as far as efficiency in both categories.
4. I do watch the Mavs tyvm, and did not imply the offense is a juggernaut or that a post presence is not necessary, I'm just saying I'm not sure if we're a 38 YO Shaq away from competing with the Lakers, Celtics, Cavs. Mavs roster holes are more complex than that IMO.
1. They won't be needing to rely on jumpers as much with Shaq there.1. The Mavs defensive effort kinda sucks IMO, especially when the jumpers aren't falling.
2. I do not believe Shaq is FAR superior than Damp when it comes to defense.
3. IT goes both ways IMO. More consistent offense would lead to better defense but better defense would lead to transition opportunities and easy baskets for the offense. The two are interconnected undoubtedly which is why the Celtics, Lakers, Magic, and Cavs are all top 6 in the league as far as efficiency in both categories.
4. I do watch the Mavs tyvm
2. He definitely gives more effort, and people around the league are less likely to try to dunk on him, as opposed to Damp. Plus he is a smarter defender. Damp is a solid defensive center, but he can get fooled too easily, and lacks effort worse than Shaq.
3. And Shaq helps on both ends of the court.
4. No one said we are just a Shaq away. Although he definitely helps improve the team quite a bit, as he would be the best post presence in Mavs history.
How does your topic change from the Mavs being a run and gun team, to the Mavs not playing defense?
I thought he has another year at $20 mil after this one.
the mavs win 5 more games next year, Cuban gains a few extra thousand season ticket holders and the spurs 4 > mavs 0
win win lose
So lets say cuban isn't tightening his purse strings and pho isn't worried about sending shaq to another team in the west.. What would the deal look like?
Dampier and Stackhouse... oh god... I'd rather have Matt Bonner and Finley.
It would be a pure salary dump and the Suns would be officially giving up on the 09-10 season before it even began. There's a team option on Nash I'm sure they'll pick up. With Shaq, Amare and Nash all coming off the books for 10, I think it gives the Suns room to retool pretty quickly.
Mark Cuban tries to cool down Shaq speculation
Tim MacMahon
Mark Cuban certainly didn't say anything to fan the flames of speculation that Shaq will land in Dallas this summer.
"You never say never because this is such a crazy league," Cuban said after implying that the odds of such a deal going down are pretty long, "but you could say that about any player in the league right now."
Cuban kidded that his recent Twitter tweetfest with Shaq was a case of them trying to date, "but his wife got in the way."
"I haven't had a man crush," Cuban claimed. "Shaq and I and Phil Jackson, for that matter, always would have these fun verbal sparring matches. It was always just fun and entertaining, and I think people extended that with Shaq to think that we were madly in love. We haven't even dated."
Would you have interest in further flirting?
"As long as it's not about basketball," Cuban said.
shaq is becoming a journeyman.
Yeah OK and Eric Dampier does so much for an up-tempo offense Dallas is gonna miss him.
And for all the people that say Shaq killed the run and gun, I have a few questions:
1) How effective was the run and gun in May and June?
2) How did Shaq kill the run and gun if in 2008 the Suns averaged more fast break points per game after the Shaq trade rather than prior to?
3) At the time of the Shaq trade, the Suns were 4-12 against the other 8 good west teams that year.......what was this "great team" Shaq killed?
4) How on god's green earth is anyone dumb enough to say going from Dampier to Shaq hurts Dallas?
to both of the above
I agree, but I still want one of these Spurs fans like BenJarvus to explain how Dampier > Shaq.
i dont understand it either.
its basically Dampier for Shaq since Stackhouse doesnt do anything anyway,
and some people here think that its a big mistale for Dallas?
actually im thinking the opposite.I thought you guys were referring to the country song: " I'm going through the Big D and I don't mean Dallas.
The last thing a sinking ship needs is to add Shaq to it.
if a sinking ship is sinking and their fate is pretty much certain as it stands, what does it hurt to shake things up a bit?
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