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Every playoff team in the West has to stare the reality in the face that they just don't have the horses as is to take out the Lakers in a seven-game series. Perhaps Pop saw this as an ideal year to mix things up and take risks?
well, i can only agree about Mason ing badly the team rythm. you've got a point here.
i guess IF tim is on the court and the offense runs a lot through him , Hill could do a decent job with tony on the bench. better than Mason.
The thing i liked about him is that he doesn't seem scared to play. that's a good point in PO for a rookie, especially considering the shy play of some others role players.
Every playoff team in the West has to stare the reality in the face that they just don't have the horses as is to take out the Lakers in a seven-game series. Perhaps Pop saw this as an ideal year to mix things up and take risks?
Kori and LJ knew they jinxed the Spurs by going to Dallas but they still went to game four!
Kori and LJ knew they jinxed the Spurs by going to Dallas but they still went to game four!
They better not go to Cedar Creek!!
Where would you to asshats be if not for me? LJ Pm me if you need a sip!
What is Pop's email so i can send this to him?Originally Posted by Warlord23
And it's not like this thing came out of the blue. Late in the regular season, Pop's mind-boggling experiment with Mason as the back up PG was ing us over repeatedly. He had the time to admit he was wrong and get Hill back in. Also, while Bonner shot a great % against the teams, his deficiencies on defense, rebounding and shooting were being exposed against the better teams.
Why shorten the rotation unnecessarily and put players in uncomfortable roles?
Why bench the one sub who could guard fleet-footed guards, and get to the rim off the dribble, even as you watch Barea carve you up?
Why continue to run the second unit's offense through a 2-guard with shaky handles, who is clearly struggling and and losing his shooting touch while he's at it?
Why cut Bowen's minutes and relegate him to the bench, when he was the one defender who could still guard 3-4 positions?
Why continue to give minutes to the soft redhead when he isn't doing the one thing (shooting) he could do, and was sucking worse at the other things (D, rebounding) which he anyway wasn't good at?
Mason/Hill in their correct roles were the one reason why we were the #2 seed without Manu. Pop ed up their roles, sat Bowen and narrowly escaped falling to the # 5 seed, and now one the verge of a first round exit.
First , let me say that originally I was intrigued by the Mason experiment and what it potentially could bring, but early on it was obvious that it was not meant to be.
But on your point on running the o through Duncan with Hill on the floor , I agree fully. Today ,when Parker sat in the first quarter and Mason took over ,I found myself wondering why in the world with the way the offense looks so panic stricken with Mason in charge and Duncan on the floor,would you ever do any thing other than get the ball past halfcourt and get it inside to Duncan and let him run the show.
I mean I would get on the PA and announce to everyone that when a guy named Tony is out of the game and a guy named Tim is in the game , that we are going to come down and get it to the guy named Tim and let him be in charge of things. No matter who the backup point is. That is what just confused me. In that situation to with it. Maybe, just maybe, an occaional high pic n roll with Tim looking for the roll or the pop out, but basically initiate through Tim every time! I mean every time.
PS, I am not a POP hater, actually quite the opposite.
Last edited by rogcl1; 04-26-2009 at 01:41 AM.
3rd best player?
Those were called (i.e., set) plays. We didn't need a three. And we sure as didn't need captain anti-clutch (Bonner) shooting them.
I find it funny how the prized rookie, who Pop pegged as "not ready for prime time playoff action" was the only player, besides Parker and Duncan, that played like a veteran. Hit a couple of big shots and played tenacious defense. These rest of the rotation guys (save for TD and TP), played as if they were seeing their first playoff action. They played like some straight-up punks.
Note to Pop:
You can take your finger out of your butt now. Admit it. Your assessment of yet another PG has been about as wrong as the 5-day forecast.
Last edited by SenorSpur; 04-26-2009 at 09:15 AM.
Taking my rambling to the next step ,I will say if Tim and Tony are out of the game at the same time and Mason is the point, then we are screwed. Period.
Maybe just maybe some combo of Hill at the point running pic n rolls with Thomas mixed with going inside to Gooden with Mason freeing up for an occasional 3. Not any room for errors.
Don't forget Marcus Williams has a good shot a perhaps making the roster next season. In fact, I'd like to see both he and Hairston make it. Let's get this youth transition going full tilt.
So Pop decided to go ahead and hamstring what horses he had just enough to get whipped by Dallas? The Mavs hit their stride late, and entered the playoffs playing the best and most consistent ball of the year, but the Spurs have shot themselves in the foot in many respects during this series. Manu's absence shouldn't have been a factor.
I am pretty mad at Pop too...
THE ONLY THING I HOPE NOW IS THAT HE CAN SWALLOW HIS PRIDE AND ACTUALLY TRY WHAT OBVIOUSLLY WORKED
Meaning:
-play Hill much more
-play Bonner less (and dont get me wrong... i love the guy, he just doesnt produce)
-play Bowen a lot
Tony ing Parker is not a machine and cannot play 48 minutes a game at the same pace!
I have been frustrated by the lack of playing time from Hill. Not just in this series but for the past couple of months. Mason at PG is painfull to watch. He just doesn't have the handle neccessary to perform at that position. I have to agree with the many in this thread that believe Pop's experimentation with Mason and Hill has been a disaster. And we may not have enough time to rectify the situation. I just hope that Pop asmits his mistake and plays both at their apropriate positions.
Not holding my breath or betting the farm on this one.
I agree. I'm sure I had him on the list of players, but just left him out in that part.
I'd say that Hairston's going to be picked up by someone else, but if even Popovich can't see the value of a good defender, why would the rest of the NBA?
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What part of playing George Hill does Pop not understand? Takes him 16 minutes to get into the game when the rest of the offensive role players are sucking azz?
Got damn.
Let's hope Pop just misreads the 3 on Hill's back for a 4.
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