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    Parker - Hill
    Mason - Ginobili - Hairston
    Bowen - Gist - Williams
    Duncan - Bonner
    Mahinmi - Thomas - Oberto

    - I know Finley isn't there, but I'm hoping he'll decide to spare us and not pick up his option. If he does, Pop needs to get over butt-hurting him and only play him out of desperation (give him the Hill treatment).
    - Oberto and Bonner's expiring contracts could be traded for a PF or C. I'd like to keep Bonner too (for certain matchups), but if the Spurs can get a "sure thing," then it's a no-brainer.
    - I'd keep Thomas since the Spurs don't have another big with his toughness (needed at times).
    - Sign another PF/C in FA. I don't trust Gooden, so I'd look elsewhere first. If they can sign someone (Wallace, etc.) and possibly carry out the previously mentioned trade, I'd feel much better about the frontline next year. , maybe they can get Splitter. Whatever.

    Basically, lose the older guys except Bowen and Thomas (defense), bring in some new bigs, and develop the youth. All of them. Pre-season, early in the season, find out who can deliver, how they can deliver. Put them in the best position to help the team. When the second half comes around, they'll be in form and hopefully in rhythm that can carry over into the playoffs, regardless of seed.

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    Parker - Hill
    Mason - Ginobili - Hairston
    Bowen - Gist - Williams
    Duncan - Bonner
    Mahinmi - Thomas - Oberto
    Those two have to go. You also need to find a replacement for Bowen out of pure necessity. He just ain't going to be around forever.

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    POP isn't going anywhere.



    You people are nuts. This team is the suck and he still got it to the 3 seed. I trust him. If we are 1 and done in the playoffs this off season going to be telling though

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    Popovich is the most respected coach in the NBA by his peers and the players according to the voting..a big reason for anybody to come here in the off-season would be partly due to him..he's made a lot of questionable decisions, but that's the case with every coach..

    his system hasn't been "figured out" at all..if you can rank 5th defensively with Matt Bonner, Michael Finley, Roger Mason, and Tony Parker playing D in the starting lineup, I think the system is still great..

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    Those two have to go. You also need to find a replacement for Bowen out of pure necessity. He just ain't going to be around forever.
    I know. I mentioned a trade, and I hope Gist can play SF. From what I've seen, he has the quickness to do so, and his size would be ideal.

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    5) Be nice to see us grab someone like a G Green who is young and talented and may blossom with the right team, if we could grab him on the cheep that would help our bench.
    I love Gerald Green's skills too. He can really fill it up. Super athletic. His downsides are that he plays selfishly, shoots too much, and loafs on defense. He carries himself like he's an established NBA star. There's a reason Carlisle doesn't trust him enough to give him any time.

    Knowing how hard Pop is already on young players and how much he prefers players who have "gotten over themselves", do you really believe Pop would ever be interested in a talented, but very raw and unrefined kid like Green?

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    1) Keep Duncan, Parker
    2) Only trade for GOOD offers Manu, Mason, Hill
    3) Do not resign Udoka, Vaughn
    4) Trade/Buyout Oberto and Bowen (both contracts have only partial guarantees next season - high value with declining Lux Tax values...)
    5) Trade if at all practical - Bonner, Finley.
    6) Don't expect any long term contracts brought on between the economic situation, and revelations about expanded possibilities to offer Splitter a contract in 2010 (ie not the rookie scale), I expect the 2010 plan to be still on

    Optimally, Players whom we would have afterwards:
    Parker, Hill
    Mason, Manu, Williams
    Hairston, Gist
    Mahinmi,
    Duncan, KT

    Add 3ed PG - Jason Hart for the Vet Min
    Add a Big - Javtokas for the LLE
    Add a SF or A Big - traded for (Mike Miller, Hedo Turkeyglue, Kyle Korver, Okur , Brendan Haywood. All would not screw up 2010 and have decentish talent, as well as being in the right contract range for some mix of Bowen, Oberto, Finley, and Bonner)
    Draft a usable Big or SF

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    New coach please!!
    POP isn't going anywhere.

    You people are nuts. This team is the suck and he still got it to the 3 seed. I trust him. If we are 1 and done in the playoffs this off season going to be telling though
    Popovich is the most respected coach in the NBA by his peers and the players according to the voting..a big reason for anybody to come here in the off-season would be partly due to him..he's made a lot of questionable decisions, but that's the case with every coach..

    his system hasn't been "figured out" at all..if you can rank 5th defensively with Matt Bonner, Michael Finley, Roger Mason, and Tony Parker playing D in the starting lineup, I think the system is still great..
    Pop will retire with Tim in 2012, I'm pretty sure of that. The people calling for his head are insane - it's (mostly) not his fault the team faltered this year.

    However, he's got to get over his distrust of youth - it's time for the Spurs to go young, and that means he's going to have to change his stripes a little and play the kids.

    Spurs need to..
    1) Take all the MLE and give it to one player, we need a quality 4th guy. I would like to see Ariza, Artest, R Wallace, R Carney, Von Wafer all could add scoring, athletic ablity and be an upgrade on D.
    2) We need to see if we could grab a quality guy on the cheep, G Hill, M Barnes R Swift.
    3) Gist must be a spur next year, he would be a great defender and could add 8-10ppg as well as a solid shot blocker from the 3-4 spot.
    4) We need to find a way to get into the first round or make that GS pick pay. We need someone who could give us something off the bench next year.
    5) Be nice to see us grab someone like a G Green who is young and talented and may blossom with the right team, if we could grab him on the cheep that would help our bench.
    6) Fin, Bonner, Bowen, Oberto, Thomas ....your time has come, we need to trade them for a guy like RJ, Maggette, K Hienrich, M Miller, E Brand........any star player teams are looking to deal to relieve cap stress.

    If we can do 3-4 of these things we have a shot to win it all next year.

    One more thing, go get home court, stop telling us it does not matter........we need to go out and win 65 games and make sure if anyone wants a ring it must go thru SA.
    1) Yes to Ariza, maybe to Carney/Wafer (but not full MLE), no to Sheed (he's mostly done, and the last thing we need is another slow, old big) and Artest (no way he'd fit here - he and Pop would strangle each other).

    2) We could have had Barnes for the vet min last offseason, no idea why we didn't grab him. Swift is a basketball moron. Hill is too old (we need another Finley?).

    3) Yes.

    4) The FO traded away our 2009 1st rounder because they didn't want to add another guaranteed salary past 2010 - they won't go back on that now. We get to look at 3 second rounders, lets hope at least one of them sticks.

    5) Yes.

    6) The team will not add salary past 2010 - that is a fact. They've been working on the 2010 plan since the 2007 trophy, so like it or not they won't change now. They are all signed for next year and will be back. The best we can hope for is that Oberto retires and we find a taker for Bonner/Finley/Bowen. Thomas has done little this series (poor matchups) but was otherwise our second or third best player this year - I like having him around one more year.

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    JV, Bowen, Oberto, Finley should and need to all be gone.

    That said, here are some possible, unrestricted FA options that will be available this summer:

    PG
    Jason Hart (Clippers)
    Mike Wilks (Grizzlies)
    Tyronn Lue (Magic)
    Ronnie Price (Jazz)

    SG
    Ben Gordon (Bulls)
    Dhantay Jones (Nuggets)
    Devin Brown (Hornets)

    SF
    Ron Artest (Rockets)
    Lamar Odom (Fakers)
    Jamario Moon (Heat)
    Trevor Ariza (Fakers)
    Luc Mbah A Moute (Bucks)
    Matt Barnes (Suns)
    Walter Hermann (Pistons)
    Anthony Tolliver (Hornets)

    PF
    Drew Gooden (Spurs)
    Rasheed Wallace (Pistons)
    Chris Andersen (Nuggets)
    Antonio McDyess (Pistons)
    Josh Powell (Fakers)
    Stromile Swift (Suns)
    Melvin Ely (Hornets)
    Chris Wilcox (Thunder)
    Pops Mensa Bonsu (Raptors)
    Michael Ruffin (Blazers)

    C
    Ryan Hollins (Mavs)
    Rasho Nestervic (Pacers)
    Courtney Sims (Suns)

    For purposes of this thread, I left omitted the obvious UFA options that do not make sense (i.e. Shawn Marion, Grant Hill):
    The Fakers would NOT trade any of their players to us, so all you Ariza and Odom fans need to quit dreaming.

    None of those point guards listed seem appealing, and besides, we have a backup point already as long as Pop wakes up and realizes that he needs to play Hill.

    After watching the Nuggets/Hornets series, I've determined that Dahntay Jones would be a quality pickup for the Spurs. I'm impressed by the way he's gotten under CP3's skin. He'd be an ideal backup for Mason.

    At small forward, I think Moon and Mbah a Moute would be the most realistic options for us. Both are versatile players, Moon a little more so as he can hit the occasional 3. Tolliver already failed here, and Barnes, while talented, has an at ude that would not fit with "the Spurs way."

    In the 4 spot, I don't see why we shouldn't try to keep Gooden. He has been a good pickup for us and is still relatively young. Wallce and McDyess are on their last legs, so no thanks there. I've always thought Birdman would be an AWESOME addition to the Silver and Black. He's an outstanding shot blocker and always plays his ass off. TD and Birdman down low would be a tough thing for opposing teams.

    I would not be opposed to bringing Nesterovic back (but not for the same ridiculous amount of money that he received before, lol) For all that Spurs fans griped about his lack of aggression, he's probably the best 5 we had after Robinson in our championship runs.

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    I actually wouldn't mind Shaq at all, but we have nothing to give Phoenix..he's an expiring contract, and all we can offer is expiring contracts..

    the only way you'll see Shaq in a Spurs jersey is if Phoenix buys him out following next year's trade deadline, and he decides to sign with the Spurs..

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