New camera angle on Kobe elbow to Artest throat

[Ninja]

Natural basketball move or not? Intentional or not? The answer to both questions couldn't be more obvious.

[YellowFever]

...and of course nobody even mentioned the fact that Artest had HIS elbow pressed upon the back of kobe's neck at the start of that gif.

Take off the homer/hate glasses, people...it's blinding you.

[LakerHater]

...and of course nobody even mentioned the fact that Artest had HIS elbow pressed upon the back of kobe's neck at the start of that gif.

Take off the homer/hate glasses, people...it's blinding you.

They Did!!
If you've played ball you'd know that is a natural basketball position since, Kobe is trying to block out but, Ron is too strong as you can see in these GIFs he moves Kobe easily!!!

[JamStone]

That doesn't justify an intentional elbow by Kobe. You can argue Artest still deserved a foul there, but that doesn't excuse Kobe from his flagrant.

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Lakers fans keep saying fouls happen in basketball, this is the playoffs, blah blah blah. They are implying Kobe's elbow was a natural basketball move, but they won't actually come right out and say it.

Ill say it, Throwing an elbow back at the guy draped all over your back, the very same guy that 2 seconds earlier had his forearm and "ELBOW" in the back of your neck and side of your head IS A NATURAL BASKETBALL MOVE while jostling for position in the paint.

Enough already... what a buch of sissy little pussies!

[cobbler]

LOL...Horry was suspended 2 games for a "hockey check" that wasn't even this hard...but there is an elbow..if you can't see that...you're blind as a ing bat.

Horry shouldnt have been. One game Max. Nash overplayed it and was the darling MVP boy at the time. Not to mention that because Amare and Diaw got suspended they felt the need to even it out some.

If you think Fishers check was hard enough to throw Scola back with the force that it did then you are a moron. Scola played it up and everyone knows it. A truck wouldnt have sent Scola flying through the air like that. Wake up!

The was no elbow on Fishers part. Enough already. I will no longer reply to your ignorant and moronic posts that have no basis in reality.

Watch the flippin replays pussy!

[mavs>spurs2]

Horry shouldnt have been. One game Max. Nash overplayed it and was the darling MVP boy at the time. Not to mention that because Amare and Diaw got suspended they felt the need to even it out some.

If you think Fishers check was hard enough to throw Scola back with the force that it did then you are a moron. Scola played it up and everyone knows it. A truck wouldnt have sent Scola flying through the air like that. Wake up!

The was no elbow on Fishers part. Enough already. I will no longer reply to your ignorant and moronic posts that have no basis in reality.

Watch the flippin replays pussy!

Lol @ you always calling everyone a pussy like you're some big hardass. Fisher did a move. I'm not sure if Scola flopped or not, he doesn't strike me as a strong dude, so he could have easily gotten laid out. Who cares, the one game suspension was appropriate, it's not like you guys need him defending Brookes anyway. Brown is a much better option for this series.

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Lol @ you always calling everyone a pussy like you're some big hardass. Fisher did a move. I'm not sure if Scola flopped or not, he doesn't strike me as a strong dude, so he could have easily gotten laid out. Who cares, the one game suspension was appropriate, it's not like you guys need him defending Brookes anyway. Brown is a much better option for this series.

I never said he didnt deserve a suspension. It was a hard foul and Fish premeditated it and lined him up. I have no problem with the 1 game suspension. I have issues with guys saying it was so much more. That there should be multiple games. That Fish meant to harm and actually threw an ELBOW which he cleary DID NOT. Come on.

And I am calling several posters pussies... because they are. They post over and over about elbows and such that just NEVER happened no matter how clear it is on tape. It has nothing to do with me being a hard ass or not.

The game has gotten so soft with all these flagrants its absurd. If a guy goes to the rim and get hit its a foul. He goes to the rim out of control and lands awkward... its a flagrant. Total absurdity and I believe personally a lot of it can be attributed to at ude and acting. In past decades if a player picked you hard you stood your ground and would never consider hitting the floor. You wouldn't give them the satisfaction of knowing they got the best of you. If they actually hit the floor you knew it was a good shot and even then they would jump back up and get in the opponents face. Men were men. That's why I love hockey.

Now, they fly 10 feet backas if they got bulldozed by a car and hit the floor all contorted. They lay there in supposed agony only to pop up when its called and suddenly be ok to take the free throws. It's tainted the game and made the job of the official even more difficult than it is. The flopping in basketball is out of control and ruining the game.

And hardass or not, all these posts condemning physical plays in a contact sport as if they are criminal assults or intent to injure are "pussy" comments. I'm willing to bet the majority of them come from guys who have never played a sport at any high level ever in thier lives.

Should be a good game 3... and I am actually glad Fish is sitting as i want to see Shannon get more time. Regardless, there was no elbow or intent to injure. Simple as that...

[mavs>spurs2]

I never said he didnt deserve a suspension. It was a hard foul and Fish premeditated it and lined him up. I have no problem with the 1 game suspension. I have issues with guys saying it was so much more. That there should be multiple games. That Fish meant to harm and actually threw an ELBOW which he cleary DID NOT. Come on.

And I am calling several posters pussies... because they are. They post over and over about elbows and such that just NEVER happened no matter how clear it is on tape. It has nothing to do with me being a hard ass or not.

The game has gotten so soft with all these flagrants its absurd. If a guy goes to the rim and get hit its a foul. He goes to the rim out of control and lands awkward... its a flagrant. Total absurdity and I believe personally a lot of it can be attributed to at ude and acting. In past decades if a player picked you hard you stood your ground and would never consider hitting the floor. You wouldn't give them the satisfaction of knowing they got the best of you. If they actually hit the floor you knew it was a good shot and even then they would jump back up and get in the opponents face. Men were men. That's why I love hockey.

Now, they fly 10 feet backas if they got bulldozed by a car and hit the floor all contorted. They lay there in supposed agony only to pop up when its called and suddenly be ok to take the free throws. It's tainted the game and made the job of the official even more difficult than it is. The flopping in basketball is out of control and ruining the game.

And hardass or not, all these posts condemning physical plays in a contact sport as if they are criminal assults or intent to injure are "pussy" comments. I'm willing to bet the majority of them come from guys who have never played a sport at any high level ever in thier lives.

Should be a good game 3... and I am actually glad Fish is sitting as i want to see Shannon get more time. Regardless, there was no elbow or intent to injure. Simple as that...

That's pretty much what I've been saying all this time. I'm just ready to watch a damn good game and hoping the game is called fairly.

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That's pretty much what I've been saying all this time. I'm just ready to watch a damn good game and hoping the game is called fairly.