mavs need to turn water into wine.
not water into water.
dirk is a 1.25 option, not a 1.5 option.
Lebron is the only player on the planet who could've led this years' mavs to a le in place of Dirk.
exactly, Kaman sucks and won't be a significant upgrade over Dampier. Stack's expiring contract should be used on Maggette who can play as 6th man, to put Antonie Wright back on bench. Or we can also start Maggette at SF to replace Josh, after Donnie trades Josh packed with fillers for a real good center like Shaq.
Eww Maggette?
Same mentality as Howard and Dampier. Play well, get a fat contract, quit.
Maggette sucks, unless he's playing for a contract.
Our expiring contracts can only bring us Maggette, or Kaman&Davis as a package. Obviously the later choice would be a big gamble, so the former one should be our first option.
After adding Maggette to our squad, we will have much more flexibility making other trades. The acquirement of Maggette will make Josh Howard pretty tradable, and we can also put JET into some negotiations if we have to, as Maggette is also a pretty good sixth man.
hahahaha winner
Davis sucks too. same thing. play well, fat contract, quit.
I want some bad ass mutha as on this team, like my signature. not soft lazy scrubs who don't give a (Kaman, Davis, Chandler, Heinrich, Maggette, etc).
We would have to offer Nets Josh Howard if we want them to spit out Carter, and Josh Howard may still not be enough. Carter is the only thing the Nets can use to attract some attention from audiences, I'm afraid the Nets have already labelized Carter "untradable". The Spurs and Rockets both tried such deals with the Nets before the deadline, but neither of them succeeded. Gerald Wallace is almost of the same value as Josh, so he might be an income from a trade involving Josh.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...tradeId=onel6o
What we can put out are just hands of expiring contracts owned by trashy players, and we don't have any talent to draw any attention from those rebuilding teams, which makes it even more difficult for Donnie to cook some good-tasting dishes with those ingredients.
At some point, the Gasol trade was not totally a robery. Kwame Brown was just a container in that trade, what the Grizzlies wanted were the fresh fruits carried by the No.1 draft basket. Marc Gasol may run over his brother in a couple of years, the Lakers just traded some potential for instant power. But we don't have any 1st rounder or unsigned draft to gain more weight onto those garbage contracts.
Question: Do the Mavs have Kidd's Bird Rights? Here is the start of my Mav assessment:
As far as the Mavs are concerned they have a lot of tough decisions and also a lot of possibilities. Thanks in large part to some bad contracts that are expiring and having an owner that will open up his wallet to bring in pieces, they should be able to make some moves. In my opinion they are not that far off from being a legit contender. The thing is, Cuban is in love with his players and is personally close to them, so will he make the changes? He passed up on a lot of trades this year that I believe would have made his team better.
The first big decision is with regard to Jason Kidd. He had a pretty good year, but I just do not know how much he wants to be in Dallas or how much Dallas wants him. It will probably depend on that and how much he commands in Free Agency which is any ones guess. I could see him going to the Lakers, but they would only be able to offer him the MLE (Mid-Level Exception) since they are over the salary cap. To me that is the biggest compe or, especially if he is chasing a ring. I personally think they will try and sign him.
If they do not re-sign Kidd, it is hard for me to imagine who they could obtain as a point guard. Great point guards are hard to come by, and people are not just giving them away. Mavs are in the same boat as the Spurs, win now. They have a 2-3 year window with Dirk, just like the Spurs with Tim. So, if they trade for a young point guard, it could hinder their winning ability.
If you look at the point guards in the league, you have a few tiers:
Tier 1: Chris Paul, Tony Parker, Deron Williams
Tier 2: Mo Williams, Jason Kidd, Billups, Jameer Nelson
Tier 3: Mike Bibby, Jose Calderon, Baron Davis, Steve Nash, Andre Miller, Jamal Crawford plus a bunch of other guys as the tiers go down for various reasons.
Obviously, Tier 1 guys are untouchable. This is because Tier 1 are legit stars of their team and are young and proven and the best at their position. Tier 2 guys are guys who are very, good players but a step below the other guys, but on any given night can be right on par with Tier 1. Out of the Tier 2 guys, only 1 (Kidd) has a legit shot at being had. Billups is doing great in Denver, Mo Williams might win a le with Lebron this year and was an All-Star, and Jameer Nelson was having a sick year before he got hurt. Tier 3 is where I can see the Mavs looking to make a deal, and there are some to be had, so lets look at them more closely.
Bibby: kind of like Kidd (with regards to veteran, playoff tested...) and fits with the win now mentality. He is definitely more of a score first PG, but that is not a bad thing for the Mavs. He is kind of old (like Kidd) and his defense is not great. But if they let Kidd go, I would not be surprised to see them make a run at Bibby.
Jose Calderon: PG for the Raptors. He is more like Kidd, but younger. He is a pass first PG that is good at controlling tempo and has a great assist/to ratio. He has some playoff experience. He is a TERRIBLE defender though and if the Mavs run into TP or CP3 or D-Will or anyone like that, it will even be worse than Kidd trying to guard them (and TP had 2 40 point games against the Mavs in the playoffs). Also, he is really the only PG Toronto has, so I do not see a high likely hood of a trade, especially because he is getting better.
Baron Davis: This is one of the trades that Cuban turned down this year. It was Davis + Kaman for Kidd. The reason he turned it down was because he did not want the bad contracts of the 2 that extended beyond 2010. It would not surprise me to see them make a run for him in isolation, maybe through a sign and trade. He would fit well, but there is serious questions about his health, desire and motivation. Big risk, but could be the best option.
Steve Nash: This is something I could see from the Mavs point of view. Cuban loves him, Dirk loves him and is in need of some friends in light of all the off-court drama. He has experience and is clutch. I just do not know if the Suns would be willing to do a trade. Nash has a super friendly contract that is not guaranteed and that expires in 2010 so he is an extremely valuable trade asset. If this could happen, that would make letting Kidd go a non issue
There are a bunch of other players they can go after that are pretty solid pg's (Kirk, Jack..) that could probably be had, but then that would make acquiring other big pieces to make up the difference.
I think Donnie and Cuban will make the deals. They gave the team 1 1/2 years after the Finals year to show progress and when they didn't, they made the huge Kidd deal. Now it's been basically 1 1/2 years and they've given Kidd a full year. The team showed progress but it's also apparent that the roster isn't a championship roster anymore.
They have enticing contracts for owners that are either looking to simply save money or snatch up expiring contracts for the 2010 free agent gangbang and they will do something. They've always made moves and never been afraid to pull the trigger. Just gotta hope they get something good.
Damp should be gone, there's simply no way you can enter the 2009/2010 season with Dampier as your starting center.
Hopefully they can resign Kidd. He's always went with the money so if Dallas can offer him a better contract than a team that wants him to come chase a ring then hopefully he will be back.
Dirk gets better and better every year and if he can finally take the last step he showed in games 4 and 5 against Denver and be a post player a majority of the time then another big man with some post game and a little defense would be vital. Kaman would fill that role. No, he's not an elite center but why would any team trade a top tier center? He is 5 times as good as Erika.
I don't have any problems with keeping Josh and JET. Just have to get a real SG.
There's no reason Damp should be back when he sucks and has a team option for 10/11. No team will pick that up, so he is in effect an expiring.
if the mavs can dump stack/damp/pick for Shaq, resign Kidd, Bass, Hollins... the Mavs could be really really good. Shaq would fit a lot better in a slower, more controlled system. the rebounding would be ridiculously good with Shaq, Dirk, Kidd, and Howard. i would honestly start Matt Carroll as it would give them a 2 with size, and shooting ability, along with an offseason and training camp to fit in better.
then you have barea, terry, bass, hollins off the bench... all good energy guys, which is what you need off the bench. if the mavs could find a way to get a swingman with energy/scoring ability, that would help a lot too.
at that point, you just gotta hope the team stays healthy. i know a lot of people want Howard out, but he was injured a lot this year, and still played through them and really tried hard in the playoffs, even though he wasn't great against Denver, i gotta give him credit for putting forth a lot of effort. it seems that having Armstrong on the staff has helped him a lot too. and i dont think the Mavs could get a lot in return for Howard, not as much as some people think. perhaps im wrong. someone some people dont have a very high opinion of, is Shawn Marion, but I think he would be great, and if we could find a way to get Marion, perhaps having Toronto do a sign-and-trade of Howard for Marion and some role players or picks, that would be nice. he would fit great with Kidd, defends well, great rebounder, runs the floor, finishes well, hits open 3s, and plays with non-stop energy. his athleticism would be a great asset against teams like the Nuggets, Lakers, and Hornets.
a reasonable lineup i would like to see is something like this...
Kidd/Barea
Carroll/Terry
Marion/athletic swingman
Dirk/Bass
Shaq/Hollins
I'd cry if Marion ended up on Dallas, shaq is great, but I miss that guy's defense.
Do the Mavs have Kidd's Bird Rights?
he is not the same player anymore and should never be referred to as "The Matrix" again
kill me with death if the Mavs get Marion. I'd rather have Josh Howard, and we all know how little I think of Smokey.
yes
If he leaves Dallas, it won't be because of money.
I don't understand the Marion hate. He hustles. He rebounds. He defends. He runs the floor well. He doesn't need the ball to be effective. If you have Kidd running the offense, Dirk being the #1 option, and Shaq being the guy inside, a guy like Marion would be perfect.
The problem is marion thinks he is a #1 scoring option. he is now on the otherside of 30...as far as his D and rebounding, it isnt pre 2007 anymore
He may have in the past, but I'm sure after having been bounced around, he has realized by now, its not about him. And even if he thinks so, he has never been a guy to go forcing a bunch of stupid shots either. He has always been a pretty smart player. Not having to deal with Howard's bonehead plays every game would be a nice thing.
Howard > Marion
Matt ing Carroll?
Shawn ing Marion?
I thought we were trying to win a championship here, not finish 9th and watch NJ get a lottery pick.
I agree Howard is a better basketball player overall. But I think Marion may fit the Mavs better, especially if they got Shaq. It depends on Howard. If he plays like he is capable of, the way he was back from 05-07, I'll take him, no question. But he hasn't consistently done that for some time now. I hope he can get back to that point though.
This is the Lebron James era.
No team w/ Matt ing Carroll in the starting 5 is gonna beat the 2nd best player of all time.
Vince Carter, Dirk, Shaq, and Gerald Wallace sharing shots?
GTFO
the offense still needs to be ran through Dirk. He just needs a better post presence, and guys who can knock down open shots.
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