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  1. #76
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    Lakers are officially the worst fans to ever set foot in a Spurstalk forum.

    "Cleveland has no chance against us. They just don't matchup well."

    - not 12 hours after being taken to the limit by a lottery team with a 6'6" center.

    You guys make Phoenix fans look like a relatively even-keeled, realistic fanbase. I have never read such collective idiocy from any group of fans on ST to date.

    Wow. If your players feel the way you do about how badly you're going to beat the Cavs, the Denver Nuggets are going to thrash the out of you.
    Don't take my word for it, have a look at a Cavaliers fan forum, it looks like it's on suicide watch with all the doom and gloom threads. You'd think the Magic had already beaten them.

    They're locking up threads like crazy because people don't want to talk about the obvious mismatches. Only "positive" threads aren't getting Mod Locked there right now.

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    Don't take my word for it, have a look at a Cavaliers forum, it looks like it's on suicide watch with all the doom and gloom threads. They're locking up threads like crazy because people don't want to talk about the obvious mismatch
    Good to know you Lakers fans are already convinced the Nuggets aren't worth worrying about.

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    It's not that the Cavs are not good defensively, it's that they are bad defensively where it matters most. Lakers and Magic are very much alike. Both teams have a huge frontcourt and back court.

    Meanwhile, the Cavs are small outside of Big Z who is 35 years old. And to add to that failure, they have a midget back court.

    How would the Cavs counter this linenup?

    DHo/Batie/Turkoglu/Lewis/Alston or Bynum/Pau/Ariza/Kobe/Fisher? Both the Magic and Lakers have too much size and talent for the Cavs at their weakest areas.

    Having a starting back court of 6' Mo Williams and 6'2 Delonte West will be the downfall of the Cavs this year because both are way too small to guard Rashard Lewis and Kobe Bryant.

    It's not about how great the Cavs defense is, it's about the matchups and the Lakers & Magic are the worst the Cavs could get in the entire NBA.
    Varejao is 6-11 the same height as Howard and Battie. I'd also trust that Joe Smith and Ben Wallace could handle Tony Battie.

    The Magic have no one who is a legit 7 footer.

    Z and the other old fellas have had plenty of rest because they have put away box teams. They will be ready.

    So LeBron switches over to Lewis and have Delonte guard Hedo. I'm sure that magic line-up would have numerable defensive problems.

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    Good to know you Lakers fans are already convinced the Nuggets aren't worth worrying about.
    This is true, I don't worry about the Nuggets, Rockets were a much better matchup. Lakers blew out the Nuggets just a couple of weeks ago.

    I'll gladly eat crow if the Lakers lose but I highly doubt it.

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    Varejao is 6-11 the same height as Howard and Battie. I'd also trust that Joe Smith and Ben Wallace could handle Tony Battie.

    The Magic have no one who is a legit 7 footer.

    Z and the other old fellas have had plenty of rest because they have put away box teams. They will be ready.

    So LeBron switches over to Lewis and have Delonte guard Hedo. I'm sure that magic line-up would have numerable defensive problems.
    You want 6'10 Hedo versus 6'2 Delonte? Rashard Lewis is the problem cuz LeBron will probably get Hedo

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    This is true, I don't worry about the Nuggets, Rockets were a much better matchup. Lakers blew out the Nuggets just a couple of weeks ago.

    I'll gladly eat crow if the Lakers lose but I highly doubt it.
    lol regular season forum

    lol getting taken to 7 by a lottery team

    lol Kobe sucking in crunch time again

    lol Lakers

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    Lakers fans are just scared. They have no one to guard Mo Williams, as the Houston series just displayed, and absolutely NO one to even think about slowing down LeBron James.

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    Kobe's is in my mouth
    DHo >>>>> Big Z
    Hedo >>>> Verejao
    Gortat >> Joe Smith (Joe's only 225 pounds, Gortat is 6'11 240 and young)
    Battie > Ben Wallace (Ben Wallace is not even 6'9...maybe with his Fro)

    LeBron would have to go up against a taller and quick Rashard Lewis and tire himself out or take the bigger Hedo and let Rashard Lewis destroy Verajao.

    Either Hedo or Lewis have the length and size to guard LeBron without double-teams.

    Magic have a huge inside presence compared to the Cavs.

    Back Court
    Delonte West is 6'2, Re is 6'4
    Mo Williams is 6'0, Alston is 6'2

    Again more lost size.

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    No and Chris Rocks Little brother Aaron ing blazed that vaunted lakers "giant" back court the whole series... wait till they have to deal with Mo Williams or Delonte West...did you see his sick Jam against the Hawks.. that's a little guy... ing s\\
    That's why the worst is over for the Lakers Neither Mo or Delonte are speed demons. They're both regular speed guards which don't give the Lakers any problems.

    Lakers only get killed by the Tony Parkers and Aaron Brooks of the world; penetrating guards that are quick as .

    Mo Williams and Delonte West are midget jumpshooters and one of 'em has to guard Kobe

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    Lakers fans are just scared. They have no one to guard Mo Williams, as the Houston series just displayed, and absolutely NO one to even think about slowing down LeBron James.
    Mo Williams is a jumpshooter...if it was Tony Parker or Aaron Brooks, I'd be worried.

    LeBron has no post-up game .... Trevor Ariza/Lamar & Kobe will keep him to his sub 40% shooting.

    I'm rooting for the Cavs to beat the Magic cuz I sure as am afraid of the Magic

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    as for the "small back court" WHAAAT... Aside from kobe what back court player is a real ovensive threat.
    Who is going to guard Kobe?

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    Like I said I wasnt gonna change your mind... They don't need to be speed demons but they are quick enough.. I posted a video...never mind continue on with you're next "trade kobe" thread in a few days..
    Hahah, quick enough doesn't cut it.

    Aaron Brooks is probably the fastest player in the NBA...Mo and Delonte are turtles compared to him you dumb .

    And btw, who on the Cavs is going to guard Kobe?

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    Duh, I think Magic are going to win in 6. Really the only match-up the own is Lebron-Courtney Lee and MAYBE Mo Williams-Rafer Alston. Other than that Magic owns them in everything else including bench.
    LOL... that's like saying the Suns should have beaten the Spurs all those times because the only matchups the Spurs owned were Duncan over Marion and Ginobili over Bell.

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    Hahah, quick enough doesn't cut it.

    Aaron Brooks is probably the fastest player in the NBA...Mo and Delonte are turtles compared to him you dumb .

    And btw, who on the Cavs is going to guard Kobe?
    Have to get their first Son, so all this is Premi, Talk about it if Lakers are up in the series 3-0 or 3-1 against the Nuggz....Peace

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    Have to get their first Son, so all this is Premi, Talk about it if Lakers are up in the series 3-0 or 3-1 against the Nuggz....Peace
    I agree sons. Lakers and Cavs have to get their first.

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    Did you seriously just list JJ Re as a reason why the Magic are going to beat the Cavs?

    Stop.

    No really, stop. Most of the time you have some pretty objective takes, but this is absolutely insane. No matter what else you post, you are utter fail from this point on.

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    You want 6'10 Hedo versus 6'2 Delonte? Rashard Lewis is the problem cuz LeBron will probably get Hedo
    Yes.

    On Cavs-Magic.

    I think the the 29 point blow-out in early April showed us that the Magic can exploit some weaknesses well. The Magic shot 48% from 3pt land whilst making 13 and shot 53% overall. The problems that were exposed were the lazy transitional defense by the Cavaliers and the Match-up problem with Rashard Lewis.

    Talking starting units here. Lewis draws Varejao out to the 3pt line. This is a problem as Varejao is Cleveland best rotating big so if they Magic are passing well around double teams they can get some easy scores inside as Z is slow.

    The transitional defense shouldn't be as much of a problem. I'm assuming they would have worked on this in practice the last few weeks in between rounds and that poor defense was a result of them being lazy. I don't think they will be lazy in the playoffs.

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    LOL... that's like saying the Suns should have beaten the Spurs all those times because the only matchups the Spurs owned were Duncan over Marion and Ginobili over Bell.

    Son tell me about it, these laker clowns are funny....lets hear what the comeback is to your post in comparing to Cavs

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    Did you seriously just list JJ Re as a reason why the Magic are going to beat the Cavs?

    Stop.

    No really, stop. Most of the time you have some pretty objective takes, but this is absolutely insane. No matter what else you post, you are utter fail from this point on.
    Nah, I didn't want to leave him out and make it look biased conveniently leaving out a starter. He sucks.

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    Yes.

    On Cavs-Magic.

    I think the the 29 point blow-out in early April showed us that the Magic can exploit some weaknesses well. The Magic shot 48% from 3pt land whilst making 13 and shot 53% overall. The problems that were exposed were the lazy transitional defense by the Cavaliers and the Match-up problem with Rashard Lewis.

    Talking starting units here. Lewis draws Varejao out to the 3pt line. This is a problem as Varejao is Cleveland best rotating big so if they Magic are passing well around double teams they can get some easy scores inside as Z is slow.

    The transitional defense shouldn't be as much of a problem. I'm assuming they would have worked on this in practice the last few weeks in between rounds and that poor defense was a result of them being lazy. I don't think they will be lazy in the playoffs.
    That's the problem right there... Rashard Lewis. He's too tall for any of the starting guards to take him and he draws out Andy. And if it's a pick and roll with Rashard, the Cavs have a problem.

    This is where having such a short starting guard pair hurts the Cavs. Cavs are gonna have to sit either Delonte or Mo in favor of Pavlovic. I can't see Delonte being able to guard Rashard.

    And if the Magic run as you mentioned, BigZ can't keep up with Howard. If the Magic run and don't let the Cavs get into their defense, the Cavs are not nearly as good defensively.

    I'm rooting for your team to beat the Magic, but it's going to be a tough series.

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    How come you haven't been banned yet... Are you a paraplegic or a shut in.. how it seems you go to various team boards just to illuminate the rest of the world on how pathetic a human you actully are.
    You started this stupid flaming , , don't start crying for mommy now.

    So go yourself and let me your mom you sad piece of .

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    DHo >>>>> Big Z
    Hedo >>>> Verejao
    Gortat >> Joe Smith (Joe's only 225 pounds, Gortat is 6'11 240 and young)
    Battie > Ben Wallace (Ben Wallace is not even 6'9...maybe with his Fro)

    LeBron would have to go up against a taller and quick Rashard Lewis and tire himself out or take the bigger Hedo and let Rashard Lewis destroy Verajao.

    Either Hedo or Lewis have the length and size to guard LeBron without double-teams.

    Magic have a huge inside presence compared to the Cavs.

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    Delonte West is 6'2, Re is 6'4
    Mo Williams is 6'0, Alston is 6'2

    Again more lost size.
    Hedo is not playing on Varejao and Varejao will not play on him. Hedo is not quick enough and he would be the one tiring himself out trying to stay in touch with LeBron. Same with Lewis. They doubled Pierce enough but they won't double LeBron?

    If your are going to list the correct heights of the Magic guards, why not the Cavaliers guards?

    Mo 6'1
    West 6'3

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    That's the problem right there... Rashard Lewis. He's too tall for any of the starting guards to take him and he draws out Andy. And if it's a pick and roll with Rashard, the Cavs have a problem.

    This is where having such a short starting guard pair hurts the Cavs. Cavs are gonna have to sit either Delonte or Mo in favor of Pavlovic. I can't see Delonte being able to guard Rashard.

    And if the Magic run as you mentioned, BigZ can't keep up with Howard. If the Magic run and don't let the Cavs get into their defense, the Cavs are not nearly as good defensively.

    I'm rooting for your team to beat the Magic, but it's going to be a tough series.
    Shard isn't a guard but. He is their starting PF.

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    Rashard. plays forward not Guard.. but I know you're not in our reality...

    and in 3 games against the Cav these are his numbers

    Against CLE 3 3 103 15-41 8-25 9-9 2 11 13 8 2 1 47

    15 pts a game 4 boards... and what is that 38 % shooting and 8-25 in threes..

    those are some overwhelming numbers dude... again I know it makes no impact on your sieve of a mind
    You're so naive, maybe you should take some stupid medicine if they have it. Rashard doesn't have to put up 50 points for the Magic to beat the Cavs.

    Rashard causes a mismatch which in turn breaks down the defense. Other players have to help on it. As a result, the Magic went up 40 on the Cavs and overall beat them 2-1 with the one loss coming on a BS call in the 4th quarter and a miracle 3 point shot.

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    Hedo is not playing on Varejao and Varejao will not play on him. Hedo is not quick enough and he would be the one tiring himself out trying to stay in touch with LeBron. Same with Lewis. They doubled Pierce enough but they won't double LeBron?

    If your are going to list the correct heights of the Magic guards, why not the Cavaliers guards?

    Mo 6'1
    West 6'3
    My bad, I was going on heights by memory. The Magic and Laker starting guards are still bigger than the Cleveland guards.

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