Navy all the way.
Active duty USAF, almost 10 years now. Depends on your personality, I guess. AF seems more tech-heavy, and we're pretty laidback. Navy can be laidback too, depends on where you go I guess. Navy almost seems to travel more, especially if you get on a ship.
What job do you plan on doing?
I love my job, personally, and I really enjoy the military.
Intel is fun and has a RIDICULOUS bonus right now. I'd go for that.
I tried going in EOD and failed out. Lots of fun, but a demanding job. (EOD = Explosive Ordnance Disposal, or Bomb Squad.)
I got reclassed into 3C2, Tech Control. We deal with a wide variety of networking equipment, so I'll be relatively set with a job on the outside whenever I get out.
If you're going AF, I'd say to either get an exciting job, or a technical one. Don't go SF or services unless you want to be a cop or hand out towels, respectively.
At work, you must wear whatever the UOD is (uniform of the day). The old AF uniform was the same as the army, the BDU (battle dress uniform), otherwise known as the green cammies.
The new AF uniform looks like the new Marine and Army digital camo, except ours is a digital tiger stripe. You can find it online.
You'll be wearing your uniform all through basic and through the first part of tech school. Once you get to the 'real' AF, you only have to wear your uniform at work. In fact, you're not allowed to wear your "work" uniform to off-base functions unless approved. (You're allowed to wear your dress blues anywhere off-base.)
THe AF equivalent is pararescue or combat control.
Air Force guys are cuties
Unless you mean the Men's Department of the Navy, you're dead to me.
Jesus - we had a waiter at Joe's Crab Shack give my husband some sh*t one night because my old man is AF and the waiter is former Army. Luckily he's much more even-tempered than I am and laughed most of it away
I will add my agreement to the multiple posters who mentioned the AF having the highest quality of life. For the most part we've got pretty decent benefits, recreational opportunities and family resources. We have had one or two pretty crappy doctors, but not many complaints otherwise.
I was stationed at Nellis for 2 months for training and the people in the cafeteria clean up after you, for you. I mean you just leave your tray and they take it away for you. Our jaws dropped when we saw that.
AF for quality of life, avoid the Navy like its the plague, don't know much about the army at all. join the corps if you want to be a badass
As far as jobs, the AF has pretty much any job you could probably think of. Think of it this way...the military is self sufficient. by this I mean everything has to be able to be fixed by its own service pretty much. Though their are civilian contractors too.
Do not, and I repeat and cannot stress this enough, DO NOT let the recruiters talk you into a job you dont want to do. I would recomend coming back to this board and asking anyone who is still active AF about the things the recruiters tell you about AF in general and job specificially. Or talk to someone in person who is active. Do not take everything the liars, I mean recruiters, say at face value.
My experience in the Navy was great and I thought I had it pretty damn good. Great training and educational opportunities. Nice housing and excellent medical care. No complaints at all. Traveled to places I probably would never have gone to. I'd recommend the Navy but the AF is good too. You get out of it what you put into it.
Tonight when your looking at yourself in the mirror , check inside your boxers and see if you can see an outline of where your balls used to be. After you locate them do the right thang!
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Last edited by Re-Animator; 06-03-2009 at 04:49 PM.
Avoid the Navy like the plague? Ignorant ing post of the day award.
By the way he isn't gonna get into the Chair Force they do not take GED's period. In 96 I was first recruited heavily by the air force because of my 93 asvab score only to be told sorry son we don't take GED. So I then joined the Navy as an ET and went in as an E-3.
E-4 right out of A-school.
There are always exception to policies that can be made. The GED is not a solid recruitment policy, but the recruiters can only ask and get granted so many exceptions. Score a 97 or better, and there's a good change. You just have to be good enough to be wanted. Sorry, but a 93 isn't high enough for them to work with you. The Air Force has enough people wanting to join, they can be that selective over the other services.
I don't know about now, but the Army worked the same way when I was in. You entered as an E-3 if you had two or more years of college, and received your E-4 upon completion of your schools (or was it a year later?) Works nice, because you can get authorization to live off base as an E-4 and receive the housing allowance rather than living in the barracks.
Yeah because there are so many people who score a 97.... dipshipt. They were practically begging me to join, assuming I had a diploma, they told me I could have any school in the air force (as did the navy) they did not accept them even on waivers period and very seldom ever have because they have done a pretty decent job recruiting over the years and can be selective. Kind of how it is now for all branches. All 4 branches are at 90 percent or more of their recruiting goals for the year which is why all 4 branches have closed GED waivers and most of their criminal waivers. However as I previously stated that is subject to change on a weekly or even daily basis.
If you join the Army right now its 6-9 months before boot camp.
They simply don't want "quitters." they will only take quitters who have exceptional scores. Apparently, they don't even want that any more.
Before you spew ignorant insinuating that I was a quitter Ill let you know I did not drop out of high school, my senior year I was in a school for boys because of cir stances at home beyond my control I was in foster care. The school for boys had school however not some of the classes I needed to fulfill all of my credits, and it was reccomended I get my G.E.D. so that I could start college sooner (which the school paid for). I took one semester of college before deciding to join the Navy.
Feel free to continue with your ignorant insinuations. And a 93 is an exceptional score the last time I looked. The score tops out at 99.
For your reading enjoyment.
Source
http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/genjo...vabminimum.htm
Air Force
ASVAB Score - Air Force recruits must score at least 36 points the 99-point ASVAB (Note: The "Overall" ASVAB Score is known as the "AFQT Score," or "Armed Forces Qualification Test Score"). Exceptions are made, however, for a handful of high school graduates who can score as low as 31. In actuality, the vast majority (over 70 percent) of those accepted for an Air Force enlistment score 50 or above.
Education - You're more likely to be struck by lightning than enlist in the Air Force without a high school diploma. Even with a GED, the chances are not good. Only about 1/2 of a percent of all Air Force enlistments each year are GED-Holders. To even be considered for one of these very few slots, a GED-holder must score a minimum of 65 on the AFQT. The Air Force allows a higher enlistment rank for recruits with college credit.
Wow... I was a bit rude at pointing out the Air Force's perspective, but that's how they think. Looks like you had a good case to present for an exception to policy.
Yes, I know it tops out at 99. I forget my score, but I had remembered I maxed all categories but one. The AFQT is only based on four of the ten test sections. The AFQT score uses a table based on AR + MK + (2 x VE), where VE is the combined raw scores of PC and WK.
Here's the ASVAB example from wiki, for reference:
Some day, I'll request my records. I'm curious now. Maybe I scored a 99. Right now, I have too small of a place for everything I already have.
My AFQT Percentile Score was 93, if you maxed out your score would be reflected in that score. 80 is still a damn good score making you elligible for most schools in any branch pending any clearances you might need.
I'm not disagreeing with that at all. 70 is a good score too. If the Air Force is only allowing 0.5% with GED's, that's their business, and I say with almost certainty that it's because unless they otherwise know better, they see it as a 'quitter' at ude if you don't finish high school. They would love to have all Category I enlistees if they could, I bet.
I took my test when President Carter was in office...
Semper Fi!!
The Navy promotes people so quick... crazy lol
<--- scored a 99 overall
Which is weird, because I'm not sure how it calculated my scores, which were
Mechanical - 93
Admin - 99
General - 99
Electrical - 80
Not sure quite how that works out to 99. *shrug*
They pretty much gave me the book and said pick what you want to do. Originally was going to be Air Traffic Control until I realized I had to wait a few months since I was 17 (they only allow 18 yr olds into that job.)
Then they said, "What about blowing stuff up?" I went EOD and failed out about haflway through; got reclassed into this job (Tech Control).
AIR FORCE dude. They pay for your housing.
In the navy you'd have to spend like 3 months at sea (or something, I forget) every year no matter what. Lame.
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