yeah..my bad..when I said Senior year, I meant his last year...I forgot..lol..oops...truth is, Vince has a lot of talent, and will start somewhere again...and will make Tennessee either glad they held on to him, or sorry they let him go.
He will be...this coming from a Horns fan. McGee will be better than McNeal..and that won't take much. He was a below standard WR for Cincinnati and a 3rd string QB only because Wright was hurt. McNeal was not successful...McGee is fast..and has a cannon. Blake..do you even think before you hate, or does it come second nature?
lol steven mcgee > mcneal
They ain't going to win a championship with Kerry Collins and/or a healthy Pats/Steelers team. Put Young in and hope he stops being a freaking and can improve.
The Texans don't need help with ticket sales. They sale out all of their home games. And why pick a player that is overrated and not a need for the team just to sell tickets? You must think the Texans are owned by Jerry Jones and not a smart owner that cares about winning more than just media whoring.
yeah...cuz Jerry doesn't have 3 Super Bowl Rings...more than most owners ever get...you're an idiot.
Everyone knows those are Jimmy Johnson's rings. If he was such a great owner and football genius why has he not won a playoff game in over a decade?
it also helps when a team like the vikings throws 100 draft picks the Cowboys way in exchange for an overthehill herschel...
thanks to the trade, after 1992, the Cowboys ultimately ended up with guys like:
RB Emmitt Smith
DT Russell Maryland
CB Kevin Smith
S Darren Woodson
CB Clayton Holmes
while the Vikes best player from that deal ended up being WR Jake Reed.
But Jerry Jones is a smart owner! He made a big new stadium!
I agree with young though as a ans fan I want him to start over the crypt keeper collins. And if you look at it the ans record is great with young then over collins despite last year.Vince got a ans team that had nowhere near the talent it had last year to the playoffs the year before,and were one win away from going to the playoffs the previous year.
Last time I checked, Jerry doesn't play on the field. The reason they haven't won is because of lack of talent, and then guys not playing up to their potential. Jerry signs the checks, the players are the one's doing the playing. Sure Jerry has not made some great pick ups, but the recent failures aren't all Jerry's fault. He's given this team chances to win, but injuries and mental lapses have kept this team from producing in the post-season.
That's a result of picking up players that are mentally weak and have character issues. That's on the GM to pick up strong team players and smart players. Jerry is the GM. So it's his fault he picked up players that choke in the playoffs.
I think he has picked up smart players. It's not that they choked, they've just been outplayed in the playoffs. Anyone can see that they have had the talent. Is it on the players, most definitely. You can't put the loss on the GM/Owner when the players don't play up to standards. You can put it on the coaching staff for not having their players ready, but the GM/Owner did his job. He gave the coaching staff a team good enough to win in the playoffs. The players/coaching staff didn't come through.
So you are saying the Jerry Jones is a good GM?
Thats not totally true the reason they havent won was because the last time they won there wasnt a salary cap. Jerry Jones spent like George Steinbrenner.
Back to topic, Vince sucks as a pro.
So you're saying you liked having David Carr as your starting QB along with Sage Rosenfels? Vince Young is a better QB than both of those. Houston should have taken a chance on their hometown guy. He led the Longhorns to and won the National Championship game. He was a guy the team NEEDED. Vince Young would have helped the Texans in ways that Carr and Rosenfels couldn't.
He's willing to put together a winning team no matter what. So yes he is. If it costs him money, if he has to risks, he does it. He wants to win. Sometimes there's a huge failure in the risks, but that is a chance you take with a risk. I'd rather have Jerry Jones run my team than most other Owners/GM's.
Mario has proven so far to be the better pick.
Very true.
Although I think Vince would have been more successful had he been picked by Houston. I don't think he would have been micromanaged the way he was in Tennessee, being forced to play outside of his comfort zone. Im sure they would have let him just go out and be a playmaker, kinda like how Tennessee did in his first year, and he looked quite good. Plus, having Andre Johnson there would have likely helped a lot too...
How's that not true? In the 2000-2003 there wasn't a great deal of talent on the Cowboys team. Bill Parcells and Jerry Jones started to bring in guys/draft guys that were better players. In 2007, the Cowboys had the players/talent to make a deep run in the playoffs. They didn't. Why? It wasn't because of Jerry Jones, which is my point. It's because they didn't execute and the Giants did. The same in 2006 against the Seahawks. The Cowboys could and should have won the game, but a bobbled snap and the Seahawks doing a better job overall kept the Cowboys from winning. How is that Jerry's fault? He didn't make Romo bobble the snap on a field goal attempt.
Plus he was a Legit pro bowler not a 10th alternate.
Id rather have a def studd. After all what wins championships? DEF!! Had the Texas def not stopped USC vince wouldnt have ran that last TD in.
Yes, we can say that now, but three years ago? I doubt it. I know many Texans fans who were pissed because the Texans "screwed up" in the draft by selecting Mario. They wanted either Vince Young or Reggie Bush. Can you blame them? It's easy to sit here now and say that Mario is the better player, but looking back to 2006 at putting yourself in THAT time period Vince Young would have been a damn good choice and would have helped the Texans better than Carr or Rosenfels.
Oh I don't argue that one bit. I think Williams has turned out to be a fantastic pick and is one of the best DEs in football. I'm just saying, I think that Vince would have turned out a lot better in Houston than he would have in Tennessee. I think Houston would have let him play his way, as opposed to Norm Chow in Tennessee trying to turn VY into Matt Leinart.
Well yes a lot of guys either wanted VY or Reggie. I didnt however. I had a feeling VY couldnt transition his game over and Reggie well we is great in the open field but as a premire back, no thanks. Anything was an upgrade over Carr, but Schaub when healthy has been pretty damn good. with Schaub and Rosencopter our off was top 3 in the league last year. Its easy to sit here and say Mario is better right now and could get better!! He should have gotten a pro bowl his 2nd year but got robbed. Sorry but we cant play what if games when facts prove Mario is the better choice.
2006 there was no Schaub on the Texans. Look back to what Vince Young accomplished his rookie season, with no go to wide receiver. Now look at what the Texans accomplished on offense with Carr and a go to receiver. You want facts, in 2006 Vince Young was better than Mario Williams.
VY 2006:
Completed 51% of his passes. Threw 12 TD's and 13 INT'S with no go to receiver. Threw for 2,199 yards, again with no real go to receiver. He also rushed 83 times for 552 yards and 7 TD's.
David Carr: Completed 68% of his passes. Threw 11 TD's and 12 INT's with a legitimate got to receiver. Threw for 2,767 yards, again with a legitimate go to receiver. He rushed 53 times for 195 yards and 2 TD's.
Mario Williams:
Tackles: 47 Solo: 35 Assists: 12 Sacks: 4 Forced Fumbles: 1
Those aren't really great numbers for a number one pick. Again, I say that putting myself in 2006, Vince Young was the better choice. If Vince Young had a legitimate go to receiver like an Andre Johnson, he would have been a better QB. Now looking back, when we've seen how the career paths have gone, it's easier to say that Mario Williams was the better choice. Actually putting yourself there at the time, it's a risk that the Texans made. Vince Young, at that time, looked like he would have been a better choice.
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