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According to that article, Batum is basically untouchable unless a team has a lot to offer.
Trail Blazers: Don't expect any of those Nicolas Batum trade rumors to become reality
http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/in...xpect_any.html
According to that article, Batum is basically untouchable unless a team has a lot to offer.
Trouble is, they seem to feel that way about most of their players!
There's no question that it's a talented bunch, but if things aren't working and they have ambitions to compete at some point in the near future, they need to stop waiting for unbalanced trade scenarios to favor them and get down to brass tacks (which isn't to say that I think we have a ghost's chance to nab Batum, JMO)
I wonder if they would consider trading him now that they have Gerald Wallace.
They'll have to wait to hire a new GM. Paul Allen just fired Cho in the last few days, less than a year into his contract.
Yeah I heard about that......hopefully the new GM won't deem Nic Batum untouchable like the ones before him did.
3 General Managers in less than one year? It's an absolute joke. As long as Paul Allen, and his yes men (the Vulcanites) are calling the shots, no GM, worth his salt, will want to go there and work because he will have NO automony or decision-making authority.
Good luck Blazers. Go ahead and ship us Nic Batum. He doesn't deserve to undergo the mess of this instability.
Blazers has a big hole at the PG spot. Andre Miller is 35 years old and they don't have single good point guard behind him. Providing they don't see Hill as an undersized SG, they can be really interested in him.
There is a simple trade that can be done after June 16: Hill and Green for Batum. You can also imagine more complicate scenarios like Hill and Bonner for Batum and Babbitt or Williams.
I have stated this before, but I would not mind trading TP for Batum+one year rental for Miller (only has 1 year on contract left if picked up)..The problem with my trade though is RJ would have to have a destination somewhere cause you cannot have that salary sitting on the bench most of the game. Both starting lineups would be:
SAS- Miller, Manu, Batum, TD, Splitter - This lineup gets much bigger is more a half-court offense once again..
Port- TP,Mathews,Wallace, ALdridge, Camby - This lineup looks sick and pretty much run any team in NBA off the floor with fast breaks..
Just a thought
I wouldn't
Parker has much more value than Batum and Miller's corpse. We would miss a lot Parker, especially the scoring part, because Miller can't shoot to save his life.
The only trade for Batum that i would consider is a Hill/Batum swap.
Use the amnesty that the new will probably have to waive RJ. May as well since this is little more than a salary dump of Tony's contract. There's an argument to be made to go in that direction, but I don't like it.
Yeah, if they're going to trade Tony, I'd like to see them get something approaching fair value in return. If Tony is to be traded, the target has to be a big, not a SF.
Ya, I would agree that a big would be top priority, but how many teams have good bigs and better yet what teams would want to get rid of the rarest type player in the NBA..Batum is young, still very good contract, fills a need, and in my opinion has all-star caliber ceiling.
I understand where you're going and there is definitely a good argument to go in that direction. I'd rather see them get something closer to full value in return, but I wouldn't be upset to see them start the rebuilding by shedding a long-term contract and getting a good young player in return.
Good god does Spurfan think so lightly of TP that they'd trade him and his great contract for a one year rental of Andre Miller?
Good god does Muser never read an entire post before replying? Miller+Batum does 2 things:1. It provides a 22 year old SF who is already an above average NBA player who is only owed 5 mil. for 2 more years. 2. Miller is included to simply close the deal financially and is still an average NBA pg. 3. With millers deal onl for 1 year this deal would free up at least 26 mil. over the next 2 seasons.
I am happy with TP running the show but if he does indeed get trades I want more than a player that replaces his skill level. I want either large cap relief or young prospects or both..
Tony and Richard for Batum, Camby and Miller.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=3dhrblq
Also, let's not forget that San Antonio is where Nic Batum wanted to be all along.
So you want to blow the team up basically? In 2 seasons Duncan will be gone and it will be time to rebuild.
Sorry, but I do not think by weakining one position and strengthening another is blowing up a team. Miller-Manu-Batum-Duncan-Splitter as a starting 5 next season would hardly be blowing up a team and in fact I would gurantee 50+ win season again. I would rather the spurs do a gradual rebuild by bringing in young players now than a complete rebuild in 2-3 years. Trading parker would bring back a very good young prospect and would save the spurs $ as well as to pursue good young NBA fa's. With all this said I think the possibilty of trading parker is less than 10% so I am tired of talking about it.
I still would love to have this guy on the team but it still holds true that Portland is the last team in the NBA to ever deal with the Spurs. Maybe there at ude towards the Spurs have changed with their new GM changes over the past year, I hope so.
At this point I do not see all-star potential in Batum. Aldridge played out of his mind this season and could not make it. A lot of great forwards could not make it.
Batum started most of the year this season and did show any kind of all-star ceiling.
12.4/4.5/1.5 playing 31.5mpg. It is Jefferson numbers.
He regressed IMO. All his percentages decreased and his numbers did not increase as much as you would expect playing more minutes as a starter. And Portland fans complain a lot about Batum playing way too passive, the same kind of complaints we have about Hill.
I would never trade Parker for Batum. The "Pippen" potential is totally delusional. I know many Spurs fans have a crush on him, but he does not have this kind of value.
I am not against trading Parker, but not for this kind of value.
A Parker to Blazers trade without Aldridge going to SA is a bad trade. It's as simple as that.
So, I guess Spurs and Blazers aren't good trade partners for a trade that feature Parker which isn't at all a problem given that keeping Parker is a damn good option for Spurs.
No, it is the worst option.
Unless you get an amazing offer, you don't trade the player who has been your starting PG for 10 years, who has been great in this decade, with who you've had a lot of success, who has still something left in the tank, who is under a reasonable contract and who wants to stay with the team.
I don't know why you are so eager with trading Parker for years but, like it or not, trading him makes very few sense for Spurs.
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