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Yi is actually a much, much worse player than Bonner..
I do not think they would be willing to give him up for Bonner and a 2nd rounder. Even it they were, I would not want him.
Maybe if it was for Bonner and a 2nd rounder then I would, lol.
Yi is actually a much, much worse player than Bonner..
HITA > Bonner > Yi
I'm hoping that adding Jefferson could be the deciding factor for someone like Wallace or McDyess (heck, why not both?) looking to sign up somewhere to chase a ring. Our rumored compe ion for Wallace's services is Cleveland, and if Rasheed looks at LeBron vs. Duncan, Parker, Manu, and Jefferson, I think we'll hold up pretty well in that comparison.
It would be awesome if we could somehow get Splitter to come over this year.
But...LeBron is LeBron. Everyone wants to play with LeBron, no matter how good a Duncan/Jefferson/Ginobili/Parker lineup might be.
I'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'. I'd love Rasheed here, though.
Do you think he has any reasonable improvement left? It might be worth the trade even if he doesn't just for all the jersey sales we'd get out of China.
Lebron is Lebron, but anyone who chooses to sign with Cleveland is risking only getting to play with Lebron for 1 year. Sure would suck for Sheed to sign a multi year deal with Cleveland to end up seeing Lebron bolt for New York.
Now that the Spurs have fired the first shot over the trade frontier, I can't wait to see what other deals they have up their sleeve. I just know that somehow a deal of a big is eminent.
I would only be interested in him if he was still spitting on kids asking him how the weather was up there.I'd only be interested if he's still sporting the mullet.
Theo Ratliff
Any chance of getting Kaman?
Only if Manu is in the deal. The Spurs used up too many of their cap filler pieces to get Jefferson.
All this talk of using the MLE is really interesting, but I have to wonder just how far into the luxury tax Mr Holt is willing to stray. The Jefferson trade surprised most of us...is the team at this point ready to sign a FA for 5 mil and wind up paying 10 mil for him?
This trade works: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...tradeId=lg348z
The Knicks are desperate to dump Jeffries' salary, which extends to the 2010 season. The Spurs get Wilson Chandler, who at 6'8" might be the next Stephen Jackson and can play and guard the 2,3, and 4 positions. They also get the 6'11' Jeffries, who is an excellent defender with little offensive game. Jeffries is overpaid, but Chandler is underpaid, so it's more or less a wash. Sign a low cost deal with a Frye/ Shelden Williams/Solomon Jones/Mihm type, draft Taj Gibson or the next available bigger body, and you've got:
Parker/Hill
Chandler/Manu
Jefferson/Gist/ Bowen (if he is waived & returns)
Duncan/Jeffries/Gibson
Frye, etc/ Mahinmi/Thomas (if bought out & returns)
Eh. Mason + Bonner = 7 million
Finley agrees to get paid and traded = additional 2.5 mil.
7 mil, let alone 9.5 mil, will let you get some nice pieces. The challenge for the Spurs would then be filling out the roster to get to the mandated amount of filled roster spots.
Depending on Finley's inclusion, that would give them 6-7 players under contract and needing to get to 13 spots.
Of course, if Oberto and Bowen are bought out they can come back and be on the payroll for the vet minimum, and the league paying part of their salaries to boot.
So say Finley wasn't included (and didn't re-sign). That gets you to eight guys, you have to sign five more.
I guess you bring in:
Gist
Javtokas
Sanikidze
2009 second round pick
Summer league project to sit at the end of the pine
Javtokas
is afraid someone might beat him out
because he is mentally weak
leave his ass off the spurs
It seems like the spurs will be way over the luxury tax once they fill the roster in if they use the MLE. I like Rasho if he could be signed for relatively cheap.
I think the Spurs have a plan to replace Thomas and Oberto or they wouldn't have traded both. Maybe they get Oberto back. But really I don't think he has looked good for a long time.
Im not sold on Gortat. I honestly think he's a one hit wonder... and will probably ask for too much money.
What about Zaza?
I would really like Ike Diogu or Zaza. Those feel the most realistic.
ZaZa has the kind of at ude to help the Spurs but he is a fierce turnover machine. You can't even trust him to swing the ball around.
ZaZa wasn't intimidated by Garnett.
My preferences in order
1.Sheed
2.Gooden
3.Birdman
I really like Sheed in this situation. Despite his on-court theatrics, he's a solid low-post defender who can shoot it from anywhere. Sheed can camp outside allowing Tim more operating room in the paint. With Tony improving his 3 point shot, there will be many times when the Spurs would be able to surround Tim with 4 legit threats from downtown. This would go a long way towards preserving Timmy for a few more years at the top of his game.It would also force teams into weird matchups. W/ Sheed at center, who in the do you leave to double Tim??? Play Zone?? I don't think you want to play zone against a team with Parker/Manu/RJeff at the 1,2,3 positions. I'm salivating at the thought of that!
I suppose the only thing I really want is a big who can be solid defensively and rebound. Gooden is a bit lacking in the defensive department, but he's an energetic and athletic guy who can improve under Pops tutelage.
And Birdman...Well, I guess I'm just a fan. He's as raw as Bonners pasty-white skin with a sunburn, but his shot-blocking and rebounding are good. Plus he's athletic. We saw him lapse mentally sometimes in the laker series, but I would lapse mentally if I played for George Karl too.
"Let's get back to playing championship, soul-crushing defense"
GO SPURS!
I just wonder if all this may be moot. Does anyone have any reason to think Pop isn't still going to try more of his dumb-as-fukk small ball crap? , he may try Jefferson as the new PF.
Most everyone here, including me, would like a real big man to play next to Tim. But I think it's at least 50% sure thing that next season's starting C will be..... Bonner. Hope I'm wrong.
Trading two of our bigs means Spurs have something up their sleeves or confidence in getting a big man. A lot of Splitter talk is emerging; he won't get paid like he does in Tau but he could become an instant starter for us.
A. Oberto + Thomas are bought out and return to the Spurs.
B. Going all out to pursue a free agent (Dice, Wallace, Zaza, Gortat).
C. Mahinmi and/or Drew Gooden
D. Drafting bigs that can come in and contribute next season.
E. Splitter or another Euro player
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