Gortat or Sheed?

[4RINGS]

This is the difference--- Teams are after Sheed and teams will settle for Gortat... no one is after Gortat, except WEB GM's

[jj cain]

Sheed has been a 12 & 7 guy for the last 3 years & made around 14 mil last year. He will get the full MLE more than likely. So, for the 5.5 mil you get 12 & 7 w/the positives (jumper, spreading the floor, good D) & negatives (age, typical sheed oncourt bs, lazyness at times).

Gortat will cost between 3 & the MLE & you will get 9-10 points, 9-10 rebounds & a shot blocker with positives (athletic & very active, size down low, take the load off Tim, finisher at the rim) & negatives (lack of mid-range game, not a veteran, not someone a D has to follow outside of 12-15 feet).

I agree that I'd rather have Sheed in a clutch series, but over the course of a season Gortat will take a lot of wear & tear off of Duncan.

I'd love to have Sheed, but Gortat is a of a backup plan if we can swing it.

[spursbird]

I want ZaZa. He can defend, and he averaged 12 pts and 8 boards when he was a starter for the Hawks during the season of 05-06.

[jj cain]

Boston & New York will go after Gortat, that's no secret

[Pistons < Spurs]

im talking about a 7 game series against the lakers where Sheed would totally disrupt Pau and give the spurs another outside shooter when they pack in the lane to try and stop Parker.

This is exactly where we diasagree. I think Gasol would excel in that matchup. His athleticism would be tough for him to go against in a playoff series. Gasol would be the one who could better respond to Sheeds D. His skill set would allow him to react to Sheed's weaskneeses.

And IMO you don't need Sheed on offense at all. And especially not outside. You've got plenty of perimeter threats. But you could use another banger inside getting putbacks and sloppy points. And that's something you will get zero of from Sheed.

Whatever though, either way you guys should be one of the premier teams and I'm curious to see what other moves the team does make and anxious to watch them play .... more than I have been the last year or 2.

[4RINGS]

Boston & New York will go after Gortat, that's no secret

He will be a great fit for the Knicks. :wgaf:

[Chieflion]

Boston & New York will go after Gortat, that's no secret

New York can go themselves.

[4RINGS]

If we sign Gortat it will make the HEADLINES in the local Thrifty Nickel.

[4RINGS]

Sheed is the more likely addition, simply because it's more substantiated to be a possibility.

The Magic need to try to retain Gortat or else they'll be thin in the front-court even with D12.

I agree, they should give their money to Gortat and play him next to D. Howard. start him.

[Thompson]

Since Rasheed played in college with Carter, and has said he wants to play for a contender in the EAST, that puts Orlando at the top of his wish list.

I remember an article earlier this year by Marc Stein saying Rasheed wanted to come to the Spurs to play with Duncan, and others have mentioned he likes Pop. I also remember seeing your assertion that he wants to play for a contender in the east somewhere, but I wasn't sure at the time how reliable that information was.

[Pucho!!!]

I like Gortat, but the only problem I have with gettn him is havin too many inexperienced players on the frontcourt (haha never thought I'd be sayin that about a Spurs team). Plus I do think Sheed would fit better. His outside shooting, although erratic, is much better than Gortat by far and if u look @ the make up of this team, we're gonna need a shooting Big on the floor esp against the Lakers who like to pack the lane.

[Chieflion]

I like Gortat, but the only problem I have with gettn him is havin too many inexperienced players on the frontcourt (haha never thought I'd be sayin that about a Spurs team). Plus I do think Sheed would fit better. His outside shooting, although erratic, is much better than Gortat by far and if u look @ the make up of this team, we're gonna need a shooting Big on the floor esp against the Lakers who like to pack the lane.

I like Gortat as a rugged rebounder and defender, but inexperienced is not really the word to use for Gortat. He has been in the finals just recently.

[4RINGS]

I like Gortat as a rugged rebounder and defender, but inexperienced is not really the word to use for Gortat. He has been in the finals just recently.

5 quick games is not exactly great experiance.

[yavozerb]

11 minutes a game, 3pts, 3 rebs, .5 blocks a game in the playoffs (which is the reason everyone likes this guy cause his reg. #'s are even worse) Do you really want to give this guy anywhere near our mle?

[benefactor]

Boston & New York will go after Gortat, that's no secret

The Knicks just traded QRich for Darko...so I doubt they will be spending anything on Gortat.

It's not secret that I have been pulling pretty hard for Gortat since the first round of the playoffs. The fact that he continued to excel throughout the playoffs really sold me on him. He played big on a big stage and that makes paying him close to MLE money worth it...probably somewhere in the neighborhood of 5 million a year. As I said in the other thread, good bigs are not just falling out of trees. Ones that can run the floor, rebound and defend like Gortat are going to be paid by someone...and with Holt seemingly ready to dole out the cash he is a pretty good option.

Remember...there is not an overabundance of bigs out there this offseason. Our team getting going from elite team to elite le contender hinges on us getting bigger and tougher up front. IMO, Gortat is the best option out there to accomplish this.

[benefactor]

11 minutes a game, 3pts, 3 rebs, .5 blocks a game in the playoffs (which is the reason everyone likes this guy cause his reg. #'s are even worse) Do you really want to give this guy anywhere near our mle?

Why don't you try watching the games instead of quoting a bunch of stats.

[SpursFan0728]

For me,

I'll choose Dice, Sheed, Gortat.

[Pucho!!!]

I like Gortat as a rugged rebounder and defender, but inexperienced is not really the word to use for Gortat. He has been in the finals just recently.

He's got alito finals experience and an effective rebounder, but he's still relatively inexperienced and this would be his 1st yr on the team. Ur gonna leave Tim to be the lone vet Big, I doubt the Spurs will let that happen. besides Pop likes Bigmen who can shoot. We've got plenty of youth, now we need experience. Sheed brings all that we need with the final piece (i.e. championship pedigree, 10+ yrs nba experience, etc). Him and tim mentoring all those young bigs, wooo weee watch out!

[4RINGS]

Why don't you try watching the games instead of quoting a bunch of stats.

The only stat that counts is wins... Sheed will get us wins.

[200 miles]

Gortat >>> Rasheed
Zaza >> Rasheed
Dice > Rasheed

That is all.

[Pucho!!!]

Gortat >>> Rasheed
Zaza >> Rasheed
Dice > Rasheed

That is all.

haha Naw, man, ZaZa is alright, but he's not an NBA starter. Gortat can be one but his offensive game is limited to interior play. A motivated Sheed (if he plays for a contender hopefully the Spurs) will outplay both, u shall see, but if the Spurs do go after Gortat, I won't mind.

[smrattler]

Ok, in the event that both of these things happen:

1) We do sign Wallace

2) Blair does what I think he can do, provide energy and rebounding and hustle on the offensive boards and DESERVES to play more.

I hope Pop doesn't go "hopelessly devoted" for Wallace, like he did with NVE, like he did some with Horry when he shouldn't have, like he has with Finley and NOT play a "rookie" as much as he should because he's force-feeding the vet more minutes.

I think he'd play Wallace regardless of how bad he plays or doesn't adapt or fits in and he would play a rookie less to get that done, even if that rookie was deserving of more minutes.

I bet he wouldn't do that for Gortat.

[Pucho!!!]

Ok, in the event that both of these things happen:

1) We do sign Wallace

2) Blair does what I think he can do, provide energy and rebounding and hustle on the offensive boards and DESERVES to play more.

I hope Pop doesn't go "hopelessly devoted" for Wallace, like he did with NVE, like he did some with Horry when he shouldn't have, like he has with Finley and NOT play a "rookie" as much as he should because he's force-feeding the vet more minutes.

I think he'd play Wallace regardless of how bad he plays or doesn't adapt or fits in and he would play a rookie less to get that done, even if that rookie was deserving of more minutes.

I bet he wouldn't do that for Gortat.

Y would the Spurs devote so much time, energy and resources to gather all these young players to do the same mistake they did last year and leave them rotting on the bench? Pops smart (although sumtimes stubborn) , he learned from his priar mistakes. At least I hope haha As long as Bonner's not playin 30+ min a game, I'm happy.

[phyzik]

For my part, I like Sheeds experience but I also like Gortat's youth. I think the Spurs need some at ude though, not to mention some verteran experience up front, so Im leaning towards Sheed.

[EmantheSpursFan]

Ok, in the event that both of these things happen:

1) We do sign Wallace

2) Blair does what I think he can do, provide energy and rebounding and hustle on the offensive boards and DESERVES to play more.

I hope Pop doesn't go "hopelessly devoted" for Wallace, like he did with NVE, like he did some with Horry when he shouldn't have, like he has with Finley and NOT play a "rookie" as much as he should because he's force-feeding the vet more minutes.

I think he'd play Wallace regardless of how bad he plays or doesn't adapt or fits in and he would play a rookie less to get that done, even if that rookie was deserving of more minutes.

I bet he wouldn't do that for Gortat.

well he would if Gortat proved he can play well, who would've thought mason would be a starter this last season. anything can happen!