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They tried to trade him in a package for Vince Carter right before they got RJefferson. I just think he's a tradeable asset ... not that he's horrible. I also think his atrocious D in the postseason didn't do him any favors.
SenorSpur,
Just because some Spurs fans doesn't want him.....
FO may still want him and he gets free money!!!!!!
They tried to trade him in a package for Vince Carter right before they got RJefferson. I just think he's a tradeable asset ... not that he's horrible. I also think his atrocious D in the postseason didn't do him any favors.
I was referring to Finley getting the hint direct from the FO, not Spurs fans. We don't count.
I know....
I know.....
I was just needling you!!!
I think Kori is the closest with predictions.
I think Ginobli gets the minutes behind Jefferson allowing more time for Hill.
I think Mason and Bonner will be packaged if possible.
His defense heavily sagged midway through the season, but hopefully that changes in '09...either way we've kept gunners with less than stellar defense on championship teams in past season (hence the guy at the center of this post). Would be cool to see Hill and Mase (NJ's trade targets) wind up playing with Jefferson after all because of a trade....one that didn't involve them. Come on back Bruce!!!
Surely someone wants a veteran who shoots over 40% from three and a little cap relief at the end of the season.
Didn't they know that when the got him? Unless, of course, somehow Pop misjudged Mason's defensive abilities. After all, he was the one who thought Mason would thrive as a backup PG. At any rate, I'd be concerned with them giving up on the guy so soon - unless of course, they can obtain an upgrade.
I feel the same way about them trying to ship out G Hill by way of a trade package, when the rook had only played a half a season. Again, Pop didn't think the rook was ready for prime time - turns out he was.
If Fin is coming back, Spurs fans better get out their rosary beads and pray that Sheed signs. I'm pretty damn sure Pop will use Finley as his PF closer in any other situation. Pop always goes with shooters on the court down the stretch and he trusts Finley's shot as much as anyone's on the team.
I'd like to believe that Pop knows Finley should be sitting on the bench in crunch time ... but this past season I saw Pop put Finley on the court at the end of games even when Finley had been sitting for a long time and had been sucking. When the clock strikes four minutes, Finley would almost always enter the game.
Please sign, Sheed.
Remember Pop chose Finley over Bowen, when it was Bowen who was the most productive wing player versus the Mavs in the playoffs.
Defense. I think if Mason Jr is traded it's because of defensive reasons. I really started getting on RMJ about his defense around January or so when everyone else was still talking about his offense.
I really like Roger, but I don't know if I'd even want him on the court at the end of the game with his defense being so poor.
Last edited by Ice009; 06-29-2009 at 11:36 PM.
I thought I heard him say it, but I can't find where. I must be creating my own false memories.
Exactly Kori. His D is too poor for him to be in any of my crunch time line ups. If he stays on the team I'd have Roger out there mainly for offensive reasons in the first, second, third quarters and maybe at the start of the 4th for a few minutes, but other than that I don't think he is good enough on D to be out there in the 4th.
He really has to improve his D, but I don't know if he has the physical tools to do so?
btw do you think the Spurs wanted Carter more Kori? Any idea what happened with that trade? Was the RJ one available before then or did the Spurs look at other trades because the Nets asked for too much?
Last edited by Ice009; 06-29-2009 at 11:37 PM.
I can't agree more!
Finley's defense is just as poor, probably worse - and his shooting is even streakier. Yet he's on the court at crunch time. It's pointless to expose RMJ's flaws, when Finley's on-court presence is counterproductive.
I like to think the Spurs learned from their mistakes. A couple signs of that is the trade for Jefferson and the move to get younger.
The idea that they're willing to pay the LT if it means making this team a contender for the last couple years of Duncan/Ginobli's careers.
Hopefully we can package he and Bonner's expiring deal for something. Pietrus? Raja Bell?
If the defense around a shooter is strong and also solid at the rim, you can live with trade-off IMO. If you sub Bowen for Fin I think that task is accomplished.
Ok man that was last season. I DO NOT think either of them will be this season. I think Pop has smartened up.
I think the reason Mason's defense is pointed out more than Finley's is because he wasn't even guarding the other teams best player.
Of course Finley was going to look like a clown having to guard Lebron, Durant, Pierce, Howard, and so on.
Finley was supposed to be the fifth wing last year and we know how well that ended up.
There is no chance in Finley would be the 15th man as long as Pop is calling the shots.
Let's clasp our hands, click our heels, and pray that this is the case.
All the more reason to upgrade the defense at that position on the wing.
EDIT: That position being Finley's.
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