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    Malik could shoot, he had the 15-17 ft shot...whick is what Big Dawg has now. Malike was twice the rebounder, twice the defender and a better FT shooter..that is what I am saying.

    Everyone in here should admit that I was right in it being one of the worst moves in Spurs history to make that trade, and if they are still saying that Nazr and 2 draft picks was a good move, then they are insane.


    BTW, Rose could play the 3, he did when he had too and could play pretty good defense against a lot of 3s in his day.
    Was I the only one that grimaced when Rose took a jumper? Rose guarding a 3 is NOT a good matchup for him. Rose was quick for a 4, but it's basically a mismatch for the other team to exploit.

    I will agree that Rose could guard a 3 better than an out of shape Robinson. But I don't know how important that is right now. I'm not sure how many times Rose had the sole defensive responibilities of guarding a 3 in a game.

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    Whottt, you guys are thinking about Big Dawg 2-3 yrs ago.

    This guy has not played in forever, he is an alcoholic and we all know what that does to your muscles and muscle memory. This move is as I said neither going to help or hinder the Spurs. Robinson will not even average 4 pts a game.

    I seriously doubt if he can still hit a 3 pointer with any decent regularity(38-40%)

    My point is, SA does not make this move, had they not traded Rose.

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    I am thinking about him last year...on a Philly team with no one healthy...I distinctly remember him having a big game against us last season in SA with Philly...I distinctly remember him smoking us in the 3rd and 4th quarters.

    This guy shoots well against good teams and against good defenders...even last season...he is an A list scorer...if not an A list human being.

    If he sucks we cut him...he took the min to get a ring...the Spurs rep will be forever tarnished but Pop was determined to do that sooner or later...it's either live with it or stop being a SpurFan...I can live with this team being like any other team...all my other teams are...but I will miss the standards the team tried to live up to in the Drob era...it was a one of kind type deal though.

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    Was I the only one that grimaced when Rose took a jumper? Rose guarding a 3 is NOT a good matchup for him. Rose was quick for a 4, but it's basically a mismatch for the other team to exploit.

    I will agree that Rose could guard a 3 better than an out of shape Robinson. But I don't know how important that is right now. I'm not sure how many times Rose had the sole defensive responibilities of guarding a 3 in a game.

    Both Malik and Robinson are career 45% shooters.

    Glen's 3 pt % is around 33% the last few yrs, and it is surely to be worse now, so what is your point about Rose not hitting the 3???

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    I am thinking about him last year...on a Philly team with no one healthy...I distinctly remember him having a big game against us last season in SA with Philly...I distinctly remember him smoking us in the 3rd and 4th quarters.

    This guy shoots well against good teams and against good defenders...even last season...he is an A list scorer...if not an A list human being.

    If he sucks we cut him...he took the min to get a ring...the Spurs rep will be forever tarnished but Pop was determined to do that sooner or later...it's either live with it or stop being a SpurFan...I can live with this team being like any other team...all my other teams are...but I will miss the standards the team tried to live up to in the Drob era...it was a one of kind type deal though.
    That was last year, he is older, his body has been torn up by alcohol, he was on a weak team where they needed his offense. 34% shooting from downtown will not help SA, that is just 1 in 100 better than Tim Duncan for God's sake.


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    The team average for SA from the arc is 36% and you are excited about a 34% shooter from 1 yr ago???


    He will be lucky to get to 34%, I would say it will be more like 28% this yr.

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    That was last year, he is older, his body has been torn up by alcohol, he was on a weak team where they needed his offense. 34% shooting from downtown will not help SA, that is just 1 in 100 better than Tim Duncan for God's sake.

    Um...what was Glover shooting?

    What are Marks and Mohammed shooting?

    Boy you guys are spoiled...34% is not that bad(unless you are Brent Barry and then you will get death threats)...

    He may be older and his body may be torn up but it's not like we are going to play him 45 mins a game.

    I bet he's still got that shot...and he shoots well against good teams and defenders.

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    Um...what was Glover shooting?

    What are Marks and Mohammed shooting?

    Boy you guys are spoiled...34% is not that bad(unless you are Brent Barry and then you will get death threats)...

    He may be older and his body may be torn up but it's not like we are going to play him 45 mins a game.
    I know, Whottt, as I said for the 4th time, this move will not hinder, nor help us...so why all the fuss????

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    Who cares what his 3-point percentage is. Imagine spot minutes knocking down a few mid-range J's. That's it. This isn't a big deal. He can help out a little. And he can't really hurt unless he's a locker room problem. I doubt he will be, seeing as the guy is looking to continue his NBA career. If he's trouble, he's gone.

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    Who cares what his 3-point percentage is. Imagine spot minutes knocking down a few mid-range J's. That's it. This isn't a big deal. He can help out a little. And he can't really hurt unless he's a locker room problem. I doubt he will be, seeing as the guy is looking to continue his NBA career. If he's trouble, he's gone.
    Kori, it is going to hurt a little on defense, unless we have TD in the middle to clean up his mess.

    But as you say, he is going to play in garbage time probably so it matters not.

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    First you go and say this...

    Whottt, you guys are thinking about Big Dawg 2-3 yrs ago.

    This guy has not played in forever, he is an alcoholic and we all know what that does to your muscles and muscle memory
    and then you say this...

    That was last year, he is older, his body has been torn up by alcohol, he was on a weak team where they needed his offense. 34% shooting from downtown will not help SA, that is just 1 in 100 better than Tim Duncan for God's sake
    I mean make up your mind, is it 2-3 years or just last year?? There's a big difference. Sounds to me you just don't like the guy and you're looking for any excuse to dismiss the trade as a tragedy. Whottt just mentioned he was playing quality ball last year, no reason to believe he can't do it now (with a little conditioning that is)

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    Ok forget the thing with the wife beating and gun....

    You guys are seriously under-rating this guys scoring ability...this guy has torn us up in his career, even last season, did no one pay attention?

    He's a much better scorer than any big on our roster and he can be used at PF.

    As for his on the court cancer rep...

    Let's see...he hates Ray Allen...so do we.

    He got sick of George Karl...name a player of Karls that hasn't....

    He didn't mesh with AI...what bigman has?

    Look past the fact that he is a s bag(which I can now do thanks to Pop)...and this guy is a huge pick up if he gets time on the court...

    Huge...mark it down here...let me be the first to say it...if he gets PT he will score and he will score big.

    And if he doesn't pan out we can always try to pick up Shawn Kemp or someone like that...Jayson Williams could shore up our rebounding....Pop has set us free of trying to live up to a high character standard so we may as well go after the le hard.

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    Ok forget the thing with the wife beating and gun....

    You guys are seriously under-rating this guys scoring ability...this guy has torn us up in his career, even last season, did no one pay attention?

    He's a much better scorer than any big on our roster and he can be used at PF.

    As for his on the court cancer rep...

    Let's see...he hates Ray Allen...so do we.

    He got sick of George Karl...name a player of Karls that hasn't....

    He didn't mesh with AI...what bigman has?

    Look past the fact that he is a s bag(which I can now do thanks to Pop)...and this guy is a huge pick up if he gets time on the court...

    Huge...mark it down here...let me be the first to say it...if he gets PT he will score and he will score big.

    And if he doesn't pan out we can always try to pick up Shawn Kemp or someone like that...Jayson Williams could shore up our rebounding....
    Yeah, and finish destroying whatever respectable reputation we have left lol

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    First you go and say this...


    and then you say this...


    I mean make up your mind, is it 2-3 years or just last year?? There's a big difference. Sounds to me you just don't like the guy and you're looking for any excuse to dismiss the trade as a tragedy. Whottt just mentioned he was playing quality ball last year, no reason to believe he can't do it now (with a little conditioning that is)
    Last year, he was passable, 2-3 yrs agao, he was really good. I neither like him or dislike him.

    You people worry too much about liking or disliking...I do not really dislike anyone. If you are a Spur, I love you, if you are not, I root against you during Spurs games and then I could care less what you do.

    You missing my point...what did I say??????

    I said this move neither helps nor hinders the Spurs...totally unlike the Rose trade which hurt the Spurs.

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    This has nothing to do with Rose, and everything to do with Devin Brown and LJ III.

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    My point is, SA does not make this move, had they not traded Rose.
    Bull .

    They tried getting a shooter this time last year too. Had GRob been available then, he would've been a Spur.

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    Was there this much ing from JimCS when we signed Glover?

    Jimminy Crickets.
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    Was there this much ing from JimCS when we signed Glover?

    Jimminy Crickets.
    Glover deserved a chance.

    Glen has had his chance, a 2nd and a 3rd chance.

    And I am not ing. As I have said a half dozen times, this trade does not matter one iota, it neither helps or hinders the Spurs.

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    Both Malik and Robinson are career 45% shooters.

    Glen's 3 pt % is around 33% the last few yrs, and it is surely to be worse now, so what is your point about Rose not hitting the 3???
    I believe you misread what I wrote.

    I didn't say Rose couldn't hit the three. I said I cringed when he took a jumper. When I mentioned the number three, it was in reference to the position he would be playing and guarding.

    If Rose's shoots at 45% from inside the arc, and Robinson shoots 45% from the floor with only shooting 34% from three, who is making a higher % of shots from inside the arc?
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    I didn't say he Rose couldn't hit the three. I said I cringed when he took a jumper. When I mentioned the number three, it was in reference to the position he would be playing and guarding.
    Rose was better from 15-17 ft than Nazr, Rasho, Massenburgh, and Marks, I'll tell you that much.

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    I like this move
    because the spurs will be able to rest manu now some because they will want to see what big dog can do and manu will be more rested for playoffs

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    I like this move
    because the spurs will be able to rest manu now some because they will want to see what big dog can do and manu will be more rested for playoffs
    Having Robinson will not allow Manu to rest. They will not share any minutes.

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    if big dog can help maintain the lead it will help him rest

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    oh oh he might wear rose's number.....

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    Rose was better from 15-17 ft than Nazr, Rasho, Massenburgh, and Marks, I'll tell you that much.
    So what Jim? That has nothing to with what I posted about Robinson and Rose.

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