(Hoopsworld Top Shelf Journalism) : McDycess agreed to join Spurs

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It was Hoopsworld. There is no other source.
They're known to be completely unreliable.

So, this is contrary to what actually occurred.

And we're trying to prevent extra / stupid McDyess threads that aren't necessary.

This isn't rocket science here.

No whats not rocket science is making up bull about 'community' to try and justify being a jerk to people.

I know that hoopsworld/hype or whatever trash they want to call themselves is not a credible news outlet. I could go on about sports journalists and their accuracy as a whole but I digress. I wouldn't cry a tear if its gone but this entire thing about giving people their lumps, board defense, caring and 'community' is straight bull .

[benefactor]

Still not telling the difference. Theres a difference between an individual preferring a particular at ude and an individual acting as if you have any authority to say what is acceptable and what is not acceptable.

Your strawman is pretty flimsy here.

[Mavs<Spurs]

Where in the rules/FAQ thread does it say you can only have one thread about a marquee FA every spursfan is interested in? Who's to say the owners don't mind many threads right now, until he signs with someone? Nowhere. In fact, Kori goes out of her way to specify there really aren't any set rules.

In case you forgot, a portion of our championship hopes are riding on a quality big like McDyess signing here. God forbid Spurfan be interested in a few threads on the subject matter, instead of a voluminous 30 pager with a thousand replies to read through to find any information.

zosa, had it been a reliable source of information, you would probably not have many complaints. It wasn't. So, this was an egregious example. Hence, the reaction.

And Kori and timvp do merge threads regularly.

Let's keep in mind this particular example - citing Hoopsworld.

This would be on the far side of the spectrum- an obvious bad call.
Others might be closer. This wasn't close.

[Mavs<Spurs]

And now this is turning into a meta thread.

But since Hoopsworld is so unreliable, it might as well be used for something.

[z0sa]

zosa, had it been a reliable source of information, you would probably not have many complaints. It wasn't. So, this was an egregious example. Hence, the reaction.

And Kori and timvp do merge threads regularly.

Let's keep in mind this particular example - citing Hoopsworld.

This would be on the far side of the spectrum- an obvious bad call.
Others might be closer. This wasn't close.

Agreed. Just leave the bull to the mods...

[Mavs<Spurs]

Who in the is McDycess ?

Is this a new free agent that we are also going after in addition to Antonio ?

[Mavs<Spurs]

Agreed. Just leave the bull to the mods...

Fine. It's over.

peace.

[da_suns_fan]

Im glad that Spurs fans seem to acknowledge the hoopsworld is total garbage.

Laker fans (check out how they worship Eric "Emplay" Picnus over at Lakersground.net) and Suns fans have yet to figure this out and drives me crazy.

Hoopsworld is total amateur hour.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Where in the rules/FAQ thread does it say you can only have one thread about a marquee FA every spursfan is interested in? Who's to say the owners don't mind many threads right now, until he signs with someone? Nowhere. In fact, Kori goes out of her way to specify there really aren't any set rules.

I know it's hard to miss, it's a sticky at the top of the forum:

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93855

4. Deleting/Locking/Merging - Sometimes threads get deleted if it's blatant trolling. But most of the time a thread gets deleted is when it's repe ious. If you think your thread got deleted, it might have just got merged. So look around. When I lock a thread, I usually leave an explanation why - so if you have further questions, you can PM. Again, starting another thread to ask why your thread get locked isn't the best method. Just PM me.

In case you forgot, a portion of our championship hopes are riding on a quality big like McDyess signing here. God forbid Spurfan be interested in a few threads on the subject matter, instead of a voluminous 30 pager with a thousand replies to read through to find any information.

We all know we need a quality big.

That doesn't mean there should be 500 threads on it, including posting trash from Hoopsworld.

[Spursmania]

Agreed. Just leave the bull to the mods...

So, you do agree that this thread fails due to the source? Which was my point. What was yours? You seem to be calling out my failure pic. Or was I mistaken?

[Mavs<Spurs]

Im glad that Spurs fans seem to acknowledge the hoopsworld is total garbage.

Laker fans (check out how they worship Eric "Emplay" Picnus over at Lakersground.net) and Suns fans have yet to figure this out and drives me crazy.

Hoopsworld is total amateur hour.

Our first clue not to read this thread was in the le.
If the op can't figure out how to spell the name of the player,
he/she may prove to be an unreliable source of information or
quoting from an unreliable source.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I'm not being an ass...its something that happens all the damn time. Some noob reads and article and comes in here and posts it without even taking the time to see if it was already posted or if there is already a thread about the situation. It clutters up the forum with tons of threads about the same thing and wastes the time of those who run this place. It's also a pain in the ass when we lose and a bunch of fans come on here in a suicidal state and post cliff jumping threads.

This is a community. Be a productive part of it or GTFO.

Dumbass newbies who don't follow the rules of common sense and start threads with useless rehashed and unconfirmed information deserve to get ridiculed, as do dumbass newbies who step in to defend the original dumbass newbies.

You're just a dumbass. Nothing serious. Someone was making a joke about the 100 post minimum before wading in and starting a thread, particularly one with inaccurate information that's a repost anyway. The mods shouldn't have to constantly be in here with a ing scooper cleaning up whatever some dip decides to step in here and start throwing around. Part of being a community means understanding how things work and showing some respect for it. People who start a thousand useless threads are either not part of that community or are Sequ after a three or four Zimas.

People who were actually following the information saw the article when I posted it in the thread. It wasn't five pages deep, it was on the last page, which is where the latest information is.

If people learned how to use a goddamn message board then other people wouldn't have to play forum police all the ing time. The only thing I like less than having to do that is to have to defend it from idiots like you that wade in, bumping the thread with useless opinions about it.

Your strawman is pretty flimsy here.

You were saying?

[z0sa]

I know it's hard to miss, it's a sticky at the top of the forum:

more forum police. Not only that, you misconstrue their intentions about topic starting. They realize many repe ious topics are posted, not that the topics themselves aren't necessary. Many times, new information is merged into the larger threads. Not every time.

And like I said, why should you care as long as you don't do whatever they did? There is no such thing as "taking your lumps" on a sports team message board. That s for kids who don't partake in real discussion anyway.

[IronheadSpur]

Part of being a community means understanding how things work and showing some respect for it.

You mean like being polite to newcomers?

[Mavs<Spurs]

You were saying?

Your post doesn't seem to communicate your intended meaning very well, whatever it may be.

Bertrand Russell's paradox on Set Theory was interesting.I studied it in undergraduate school.

"All Knowledge is built upon instinctive belief, failing that there is nothing left." -Bertrand Russell

To be logically consistent, Bertrand Russell must also believe that "The knowledge that there is no knowledge outside of instinctive belief is also built upon instinctive belief." Otherwise, he engages in self-contradiction. Now, if he finds instinctive belief unreliable, then the knowledge spoken above must be found unreliable by him. If he is less than certain about it (instinctive belief as a source of knowledge) , then he is less than certain about the truthfulness of his statement. If he is certain about it, then he may avoid some self-contradictions in the statement.

[Ignignokt]

Did i miss something, is there a job opening for mods, becuase a lot of a holes are acting like it.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

more forum police. Not only that, you misconstrue their intentions about topic starting. They realize many repe ious topics are posted, not that the topics themselves aren't necessary. Many times, new information is merged into the larger threads. Not every time.

And like I said, why should you care as long as you don't do whatever they did? There is no such thing as "taking your lumps" on a sports team message board. That s for kids who don't partake in real discussion anyway.

It's not called forum police. There's a 36 page thread on Dice and someone feels the need to open up a new one that is a link to a site that copies news from other sources (and that info was already in the 36 pager).

I care because I come to get news and stay up to date on things, not sort through 30 pages of crap threads.

Look, this may be your first off-season here or something... there is a reason there is a discussion thread for each FA/target. That's where the discussion takes place, and then if the player signs a new thread gets opened up on the forum.

If you're going to piss and moan about the regulars trying to reign in some of the stupidity and redundant threads, maybe this isn't the place for you...

[BlackBellamy]

Your post doesn't seem to communicate your intended meaning very well, whatever it may be.

Bertrand Russell's paradox on Set Theory was interesting.I studied it in undergraduate school.

"All Knowledge is built upon instinctive belief, failing that there is nothing left." -Bertrand Russell

To be logically consistent, Bertrand Russell must also believe that "The knowledge that there is no knowledge outside of instinctive belief is also built upon instinctive belief." Otherwise, he engages in self-contradiction. Now, if he finds instinctive belief unreliable, then the knowledge spoken above must be found unreliable by him. If he is less than certain about it (instinctive belief as a source of knowledge) , then he is less than certain about the truthfulness of his statement. If he is certain about it, then he may avoid some self-contradictions in the statement.

Great mind, I loved reading "Why I am Not A Christian" and "A History of Western Philosophy". He makes it all very easy to relate to yourself.

[Mavs<Spurs]

And now the Sporting News claims that McDyess has signed a deal with the Spurs, but they cite HoopsWorld.

No one wants to be last on these things.

And the Sporting News might be cited by Sports Illustrated.

And the only people who wouldn't know would be the Spurs, Antonio McDyess, and the real sports journalists.




Thanks for that link. That was depressing.

[Mavs<Spurs]

Great mind, I loved reading "Why I am Not A Christian" and "A History of Western Philosophy". He makes it all very easy to relate to yourself.

He was a great scholar and a mathematician (my field).

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Your post doesn't seem to communicate your intended meaning very well, whatever it may be.

Bertrand Russell's paradox on Set Theory was interesting.I studied it in undergraduate school.

"All Knowledge is built upon instinctive belief, failing that there is nothing left." -Bertrand Russell

To be logically consistent, Bertrand Russell must also believe that "The knowledge that there is no knowledge outside of instinctive belief is also built upon instinctive belief." Otherwise, he engages in self-contradiction. Now, if he finds instinctive belief unreliable, then the knowledge spoken above must be found unreliable by him. If he is less than certain about it (instinctive belief as a source of knowledge) , then he is less than certain about the truthfulness of his statement. If he is certain about it, then he may avoid some self-contradictions in the statement.

Youve been failing to grasp a lot. Its pretty obvious that youre wanting to be intentionally obtuse.

As for the latter. You can infinitley regress all day long but at the end of the day I fail to see how saying that applying a negative to the statement attributes doubt. Youre inferring something that isn't there although he does agree with Hume's views on knowledge and causality when push comes to shove.

[z0sa]

If you're going to piss and moan about the regulars trying to reign in some of the stupidity and redundant threads, maybe this isn't the place for you...

The regulars? My first off-season? I've been registered on this forum over four years, and lurked for several months before. Just because my post count isn't nearly as high as yours doesn't mean I'm any less one of the 'regulars' than yourself, dumbass.

[Obstructed_View]

Clearly don't value? defending? Youre pure awesomesauce you paragon of forum virtue.

Here's a question: if it was FSSW reporting it then it would merit its own thread right? See in the world I come from when a FA goes from being pursued to having agreed to terms, it gets its own thread. But hey if we don't read the three either Dice threads and ask you if its okay then we don't care about the forum.

that does deserve a .

If it were a legitimate news source I would have started a new thread when I posted THE EXACT SAME ARTICLE FIVE MINUTES EARLIER. In the world you come from, logic and common sense don't matter.

[Obstructed_View]

You mean like being polite to newcomers?

And making fun of the stupid ones, yeah. That's our right.

PS Hi, Mouse.

[BlackBellamy]

He was a great scholar and a mathematician (my field).

I saw a Noam Chomsky lecture at MIT and he quoted Russell quite a bit (not to mention Kant, Hegel, Trotsky, Sitting Bull, ect...). I ended up just randomly, outside of school, picking up his Western Philosophy book and found it comprehensive and without obvious bias. I am not a philosophy or math major, but he had a way of getting the point across in mostly plain English, which I certainly appreciated.