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Dambass. Can't you pick up on sarcasm. I wouldn't be disprespectful to any officer, regardless of their color. Doing so is an act of utter stupidity.
Poor, oppressed whitey.
Dambass. Can't you pick up on sarcasm. I wouldn't be disprespectful to any officer, regardless of their color. Doing so is an act of utter stupidity.
Thanks, I don't listen to everything all the time.
Was that in the police report?
Just as not apologizing to this man and leaving quickly when they found out they were completely in the wrong were acts of utter stupidity.
They seriously thought cuffing him and parading him in cuffs in public and incarcerating him were great ideas?
They were wrong.
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then why were the police called
I don't remember. I do remember that it seemed pretty clear what happened. Gates was being a and insulting the officer. Officer got pissed and asked Gates to come outside, Gates went outside and continued yelling insults so the cop arrested him for disorderly conduct. Pretty sneaky of the cop to get him to come outside so he could get him for disorderly conduct. I would guess that there is probably a verbal assualt on an officer law that he could have used also.
I actually agree with you that the cop should have just walked away but they're human and 9 times out of 10 if your a big enough to a cop they're gonna you over.
NONE of that is the issue in this case though. The issue is that Gates, Sharpton, and THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES are making the claim that this is a case of racism and racial profiling. The evidence doesn't back them up and actually contradicts that IMO.
Was there a separate complaint related to this, or did Cambridge PD determine all on their own that Gates was being too loud in his own front yard?
I didn't see Obama calling this a direct case of profiling by the police -- but I can understand your confusion.
Why are you so far up Obama's ass? Seriously, it's pathetic.
BTW, Obama just gave his apology press conference.
Right. He didn't call it a direct case of profiling and I understand your confusion. Simple folk like you couldn't make the distinction since, as I said, it wasn't a great idea to connect the two in the same answer.Why are you so far up Obama's ass? Seriously, it's pathetic.
BTW, Obama just gave his apology press conference.
So clarification and nonapology apology it is.
I just heard today the Police Officer is thinking of suing Gates!
So you are against tort reform now, too.
If it's so clear, why did Cambridge drop the charges? If they were bona fide, they'd be obligated to prosecute, wouldn't they?
Are you kidding me? Have you ever heard of prosecutorial discretion?
Prosecutions cost money, resources are scarce, so prosecutors offices must make these kinds of decisions all the time. I wonder what the actual rate is of disorderly conduct arrests resulting in prosecution.
Sure. I wish the Cambridge PD had been as considerate of scarce LE manpower/resources as the DA.Are you kidding me? Have you ever heard of prosecutorial discretion?
The point of prosecutorial discretion is to manage resources and to reflect the view of the state regarding its view of justice and it penological objectives. Police don't have that same mission. Police have a stronger duty to enforce the law when they see the law being broken. And I doubt it cost a whole lot to haul Gates in and keep him away from home for a few hours.
Look, the cop could have ignored him and gone home. And Gates could have stayed indoors when the cop left. But he didn't, he caused a scene, broke the law, and got arrested. Like so many others arrested for disorderly conduct, he won't get prosecuted. BFD.
So what was the point of arresting him?
Go up to a cop and start yelling insults towards him and his momma. You'll see the point then.
What would be the point of my being arrested in that case?
Try it and find out. Go on do it.
Explain to me what would be the point of arresting me and booking me and jailing me in that case. What purpose would it serve?
Arresting Gates ended the disturbance he was creating.
As would simply leaving -- with the added benefit of not making things worse.
That's not guaranteed.
You don't know what Gates would have done if the officer had simply ignored him and walked away. I could see that exacerbating the situation.
Why not give it a shot?
Just tell him you are leaving the acoustically dangerous kitchen and if you have any complaints you can come down to the station of your own accord and make them.
Why invite him into an area where he could then be arrested for the same behavior he was exhibiting in the acoustically dangerous kitchen with no risk of arrest?
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