107 degrees today!

[Extra Stout]

One other thing about Portland: its vaunted "smart growth." They claim that due to their enlightened liberal thinking, they have less sprawl than other American cities. It actually looked more spread out to me.

I checked the data -- not only does Portland have vastly lower population density than places like New York, Los Angeles, and Chicago, its density is barely half that of cities Oregonians like to look down their noses at, like Atlanta, Dallas, and Houston. Its density is three-fourths that of San Antonio. Its sprawl is worse than just about any other major city in America.

I also like their light rail, which nobody outside the downtown area rides, and their bike lanes on the freeways, which nobody outside downtown uses. Contrast with, for example, Denver, which is most frequently seen from the perch of a bike seat. Portlanders apparently are big on spending tax money to give the appearance that they believe in things they don't actually ever do.

I also like how they brag about their alleged diversity when their city is whiter than Sweden. Having sushi restaurants doesn't make you diverse, you idiots.

Portlanders overall are some of the unfriendliest, most sniveling, whiny hypocrites on the continent. They are the tiest people I have ever met in America, hands down. The rest of Oregon is much better.

Screw you, Portland.

[Extra Stout]

To any of you thinking of visiting the area -- they hate Texans and don't make any pretenses otherwise. If somebody in Portland is being polite to you, either you are paying them for a service, or they recently moved there from somewhere else. Otherwise, they are at best indifferent and at worst openly hostile.

I don't buy that it's just because of political differences. Seattle is not exactly a bastion of conservatism, but the people there are like an order of magnitude better human beings.

[JudynTX]

To any of you thinking of visiting the area -- they hate Texans and don't make any pretenses otherwise. If somebody in Portland is being polite to you, either you are paying them for a service, or they recently moved there from somewhere else. Otherwise, they are at best indifferent and at worst openly hostile.

I don't buy that it's just because of political differences. Seattle is not exactly a bastion of conservatism, but the people there are like an order of magnitude better human beings.

Good to know, I won't ever travel to Portland. When I think of Portland, I think of it as the Meth capitol of the world.

[tlongII]

Extra Stout is on a roll!

[Wild Cobra]

One other thing about Portland: its vaunted "smart growth." They claim that due to their enlightened liberal thinking, they have less sprawl than other American cities. It actually looked more spread out to me.

I checked the data -- not only does Portland have vastly lower population density than places like New York, Los Angeles, and Chicago, its density is barely half that of cities Oregonians like to look down their noses at, like Atlanta, Dallas, and Houston. Its density is three-fourths that of San Antonio. Its sprawl is worse than just about any other major city in America.

Well, they started that mindset after the city grew to the current boundaries. Population density will grow over time. However, their plans are causing all kinds of havoc because of zoning.

I also like their light rail, which nobody outside the downtown area rides, and their bike lanes on the freeways, which nobody outside downtown uses. Contrast with, for example, Denver, which is most frequently seen from the perch of a bike seat. Portlanders apparently are big on spending tax money to give the appearance that they believe in things they don't actually ever do.

Yep, it's a ed up city in that regard. Out city planners are always high or something, I think. The TriMet system is subsidized to a real high rate. Ever since the first rail was installed, voters never approve more construction, but we get it somehow anyway.

I also like how they brag about their alleged diversity when their city is whiter than Sweden. Having sushi restaurants doesn't make you diverse, you idiots.

"The City that Dreams." I think that was one entry for the new city motto.

We were real diversified in the 1800's. Portland was the port of entry for so many "Shanghai" orientals!

wiki: Shanghaiing

The role of crimps and the practice of shanghaiing resulted from a combination of laws, economic conditions, and practical considerations that existed on the American west coast in the mid-1800s. Crimps flourished in port cities like San Francisco in California, Portland and Astoria in Oregon, and Seattle and Port Townsend in Washington.

There are all kinds of old tunnels under the city.

Portlanders overall are some of the unfriendliest, most sniveling, whiny hypocrites on the continent. They are the tiest people I have ever met in America, hands down. The rest of Oregon is much better.

Yes, there are many who are just like that. Like I always point out, the Capitol of the North Left coat!

Avoid downtown. Go to an outlying town, or the outskirts of Portland.

To any of you thinking of visiting the area -- they hate Texans and don't make any pretenses otherwise. If somebody in Portland is being polite to you, either you are paying them for a service, or they recently moved there from somewhere else. Otherwise, they are at best indifferent and at worst openly hostile.

Wow, what part of town were you in. It's not quite that bad.

Good to know, I won't ever travel to Portland. When I think of Portland, I think of it as the Meth capitol of the world.

It is that too. Gotta love the motto: "The City that Works." We have more strip clubs per capita in the USA and more breweries per capita in the world. At least we have some good things too.

[CubanMustGo]

At least we have some good things too.

The weather is nice, it's scenic, there are plenty of things to do outdoors, and they pump your gas for you.

[Extra Stout]

and they pump your gas for you.

You pay handsomely for the privilege -- probably 20 cents a gallon. You don't have the option of self-service; if you pump your own gas, it's a $1500 fine.

[SAGambler]

Dude, no. It's never a 65-70% average. It's that high early in the morning but the temps are low.

When it's hot, in the mid 90's, the humdity is mid 40's and lower. When it's near 100 or over the humidity is much lower, between 20-28% or even lower.

I suspect he meant "dew point" which is entirely different than humidity.

[Wild Cobra]

You pay handsomely for the privilege -- probably 20 cents a gallon. You don't have the option of self-service; if you pump your own gas, it's a $1500 fine.

No, it probably adds 3 to 5 cents a gallon at the most. The primary difference I think is the state tax of fuel, then Portland has a city tax too. I get my gas in Gresham, and it's cheaper than Portland. Then I can walk to Gresham city center faster than into the Portland city center also. Since we have a price per gallon tax, and no sales tax, when gas was near $4.00 a gallon, we were cheaper than most places in the nation!