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    Orange Whip? Orange Whip? Viva Las Espuelas's Avatar
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    food for thought

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    Oh, and go in her room again and get all your stuff back that's left before she's given the heave ho!
    Yes, I shall!

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    You definatly shouldn't feel bad about firing her and not paying for a vacation. The vacation is a reward, and she certainly did not earn it. It's nice of you to let her have the week to get set up to return home, although I agree with the others that it could be a risk. Plus, does she really deserve the courtesy? Anyway, hopfully it all works out for you and ends smoothly.

    and on another note... wanna be my sugarmama? lol :p

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    If someone was stealing from me I couldn't let them stay, even if I didn't have real 'proof'. You know she stole from your kids, that would be enough for me to get her out of my house. I'd supervise her packing to be sure nothing else is mine and I'd show her the door. Be sure to change the locks if she had a key. All trust is gone, so no need to stand on courtesy.

    She doesn't deserve any kindness, she stole from you. Violated your trust in your own house.

    Paying for her vacation time is out of the question. She's no longer an employee and she's getting fired. There's no severance pay.

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    if someone was stealing from me i couldn't let them stay, even if i didn't have real 'proof'. You know she stole from your kids, that would be enough for me to get her out of my house. I'd supervise her packing to be sure nothing else is mine and i'd show her the door. Be sure to change the locks if she had a key. All trust is gone, so no need to stand on courtesy.

    She doesn't deserve any kindness, she stole from you. Violated your trust in your own house.
    +1

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    If someone was stealing from me I couldn't let them stay, even if I didn't have real 'proof'. You know she stole from your kids, that would be enough for me to get her out of my house. I'd supervise her packing to be sure nothing else is mine and I'd show her the door. Be sure to change the locks if she had a key. All trust is gone, so no need to stand on courtesy.

    She doesn't deserve any kindness, she stole from you. Violated your trust in your own house.

    Paying for her vacation time is out of the question. She's no longer an employee and she's getting fired. There's no severance pay.

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    if someone was stealing from me i couldn't let them stay, even if i didn't have real 'proof'. You know she stole from your kids, that would be enough for me to get her out of my house. I'd supervise her packing to be sure nothing else is mine and i'd show her the door. Be sure to change the locks if she had a key. All trust is gone, so no need to stand on courtesy.

    She doesn't deserve any kindness, she stole from you. Violated your trust in your own house.

    Paying for her vacation time is out of the question. She's no longer an employee and she's getting fired. There's no severance pay.
    harummmmmph!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    If you are going to be so unbelieveably nice (naive?) to let her stay a week, then at the very least:

    Change the locks to the main house. She can stay in the garage apartment but no acess to anything else valuable.

    To be honest, out of concern for my kids safety, I would insist on her being out right away. If she was willing to risk stealing BIG ticket items before, now that she knows she's out in a week what if she gets desperate and does something worse?

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    Thanks everybody, I'll let you know how it panned out.

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    I didn't read this whole thread but I think putting a camera in her room is a horribly bad idea, why wouldn't you put it in your own room where the items being stolen are located?

    I'd just get her out and cut my losses, and next time invest in a safe.

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    I didn't read this whole thread but I think putting a camera in her room is a horribly bad idea, why wouldn't you put it in your own room where the items being stolen are located?

    I'd just get her out and cut my losses, and next time invest in a safe.

    Yeah, you're right, the camera should be in my room not hers. But, it's not going to change anything now, so I'm just going to fire her.

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    Yeah, you're right, the camera should be in my room not hers. But, it's not going to change anything now, so I'm just going to fire her.
    Yeah I just get the feeling that if you put up with it for so long, it's not a big deal to just cut your losses.

    LMK if you need a new maid.....

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    Oh yeah and Texas is an "at will" employment state so just tell her to get the out....














    (J.K.)

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    Well it looks like you got plenty of money so I guess losing those expensive items aren't making you want to kill someone but geez.. THAT ! Give her the boot, call the police.. make a big deal out of it. So far she's taken you for basicly a new car and not to mention going through ALL your private stuff at home looking for goods to gank.

    Problem is, even if I were to call the police, I can't prove it. The items are gone. And, yes I've been real pissed about it, but what can you do? Aside from firing her, nothing. I mean, I'm not a Soprano or anything.

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    Others have said it, but I'll go ahead and repeat it, I think it's a terrible idea to allow her to stay for an additional week after you fire her. There's no telling what might happen. Keep emotions out of it. She's already betrayed any personal trust there was. Firing her is a simple business decision, no need for you to feel bad or guilty. She put herself in whatever predicament she finds herself in. Your sympathy for her is misplaced.

    And I'd strongly suggest you change all the locks to the house. You have no idea if she's made copies over the years.

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    Don't pay.

    And yeah, change the locks -- and monitor your credit and accounts for awhile if you don't already do so regularly. There's no telling what she had access to.

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    So tell me, do I pay her for the vacation week or not when I fire her?
    No
    So, does everyone think she did it?
    Yes

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    Don't pay.

    And yeah, change the locks -- and monitor your credit and accounts for awhile if you don't already do so regularly. There's no telling what she had access to.
    I'd actually put a credit hold on for all 3 credit report bureaus to call and approve all applications for credit.

    As for the vacation, my company made us all sign something that says that they won't even pay us vacation we've accrued if we are let go. If it's good enough for the corporate world, it's good enough for you.

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    Problem is, even if I were to call the police, I can't prove it. The items are gone. And, yes I've been real pissed about it, but what can you do? Aside from firing her, nothing. I mean, I'm not a Soprano or anything.
    You don't have to prove anything to fire her. Do it. Boot her immediately. Change the locks. Put holds on your credit reports.

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    You might want to consult an attorney before you follow all the "great" advice here.

    You may find you have broken the law and infringed on her right to privacy, when you took it upon youself to "search" her quarters without proof of anything.

    You also may be required to give her at least 30 days notice to vacate her quarters.

    Don't go off half- ed and leave yourself wide open to a lawsuit.

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    Problem is, even if I were to call the police, I can't prove it. The items are gone. And, yes I've been real pissed about it, but what can you do? Aside from firing her, nothing. I mean, I'm not a Soprano or anything.
    Why don't you tell her that you've had a spy cam in your bedroom for years and see what her reaction is? Maybe she'll fess up. Yea right, what the am I thinking?

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    You might want to consult an attorney before you follow all the "great" advice here.

    You may find you have broken the law and infringed on her right to privacy, when you took it upon youself to "search" her quarters without proof of anything.

    You also may be required to give her at least 30 days notice to vacate her quarters.

    Don't go off half- ed and leave yourself wide open to a lawsuit.
    Thanks for looking out, but I'm definitely okay on the legal side--I'm pretty well versed in it since I have a JD

    My question was really a moral one. I wanted to know if people thought it would be okay if I didn't give her money for a paid vacation that she usually takes in August and I'm sure she is expecting. Just a moral question. Many of my friends always thought I was too nice but she was like family. She lived with us for 6 years, and she helped us during a lot of crazy times. I'm more disappointed than anything else. There are no contractual agreements between us. So, I am not worried about any legal ramifications.
    Last edited by Spursmania; 07-31-2009 at 09:40 AM.

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    Is she hot?

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    Give her one of these and tell her to get the out!

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