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[jack sommerset]

Why the would the police get witness statments for this bull . He was arrested for disturbing the peace and later dropped. This is not CSI gots. Noone was murdered. Some racist pig needed to be arrested so that he would not hurt himself or hurt someone else. Gates was going nuts calling a good officer a racist for doing his job. For making sure noone was robbing the guy or raping him. He was there to help Gates without even knowing him.

For those s that don't get that you are ing stupid and/or you jerk off to Obama videos and/or you just like to argue. Maybe all 3 in Chumpys case.

With that said the girl who called 911 said through her lawyer she could only hear one man and that was Gates calling the pig a racist.

[clambake]

oh well, time to go.

some cops, and people in this thread, aren't very good at altering the truth......even when they think it will justify their actions..

[ChumpDumper]

Why the would the police get witness statments for this bull . He was arrested for disturbing the peace and later dropped. This is not CSI gots. Noone was murdered. Some racist pig needed to be arrested so that he would not hurt himself or hurt someone else.

What indication was there that he would hurt anybody?

He was going nuts calling a good officer a racist for doing his job. For making sure noone was robbing the guy or raping him. He was there to help Gates without evenn knowing him.

That's what police should do.

They shouldn't throw people in jail for embarrassing them in front of other cops.

For those s that don't get that you are ing stupid and/or you jerk off to Obama videos and/or you just like to argue. Maybe all 3 in Chumpsys case.

For the last time, you can't have sex with me. You need to take out a personal ad if you need to keep it on the down low.

With that said the girl who called 911 said through her lawyer she could only hear one man and that was Gates calling the pig a racist.

That isn't against the law.

[Yonivore]

It's only a matter of judgment on this one; and I would never expect to see cops willing give up their ability to throw someone in jail that was getting on their nerves.

A matter of poor judgment, then.

You act as if they did occur and would have occurred to justify an arrest because nothing in any record justified an arrest. You simply let your bias fill in the blanks for you.

No, I surmised that those may, I repeat MAY, have been some of the things Sgt. Crowley was considering as the even progressed. I never said it occurred or would occur.

I would like to ask you what it means.

What does tumultuous behavior mean?

I'd only give you a the Webster definition and you can look that up. The word doesn't appear in the Texas disorderly conduct statute. I defer to Massachusetts authorities on this one. Again, a question I'd like to see asked.

What escalation?

We'll never know if the incident would have escalated, will we? Sgt. Crowley put a stop to it with his arrest of Professor Gates.

Of course you have. It's the only way you can justify the arrest.

What have I made up? I've made several informed suppositions based on my experience in law enforcement. I've never claimed that's what actually occurred at that scene but, I can certainly imagine it did. Just like you imagine some conspiracy among the Cambridge Police to cover for a false arrest.

So you say they should hide whatever information they have.

Why? You claim they did nothing wrong? Why do they have to hide all the information they have?

Nothing in their reports and interviews show he committed that crime. You think they would have said something that would have justified the arrest.

Here's where you try to inject race into the argument again.

So they are hiding information. Ok.

But they have nothing to hide except all the information you say they are hiding.

Hiding is your characterization. If they were being asked for the information and refusing to release it, you'd have a point.

They have no reason to speak to the issue any further. Besides, it wouldn't satisfy you anyway.

Seriously though, I really would like for someone to ask the question; "What, in Professor Gates' actions, cons uted disorderly conduct." I would seriously like to hear the answer to that question.

Why is no one asking it?

[Yonivore]

oh well, time to go.

some cops, and people in this thread, aren't very good at altering the truth......even when they think it will justify their actions..

So, I didn't change anything in my story. Okay.

[ChumpDumper]

A matter of poor judgment, then.

Exaclty! Crowley showed poor judgment when he arrested Gates.

No, I surmised that those may, I repeat MAY, have been some of the things Sgt. Crowley was considering as the even progressed. I never said it occurred or would occur.

You chose to treat them as fact when the actual facts of the case showed an arrest for disorderly conduct was not warranted.

I'd only give you a the Webster definition and you can look that up. The word doesn't appear in the Texas disorderly conduct statute. I defer to Massachusetts authorities on this one. Again, a question I'd like to see asked.

At least you admit your ignorance this time.

We'll never know if the incident would have escalated, will we? Sgt. Crowley put a stop to it with his arrest of Professor Gates.

Who knows how many people Gates would have killed?

What have I made up? I've made several informed suppositions based on my experience in law enforcement. I've never claimed that's what actually occurred at that scene but, I can certainly imagine it did. Just like you imagine some conspiracy among the Cambridge Police to cover for a false arrest.

Your imagination is the only justification for the arrest.

Hiding is your characterization. If they were being asked for the information and refusing to release it, you'd have a point.

They have omitted it when according to you it is the actual reason for the arrest. That's hiding it.

They have no reason to speak to the issue any further.

Integrity.

Besides, it wouldn't satisfy you anyway.

I definitely would be satisfied if an officer described an action by Gates that could have actually been prosecuted under Massachusetts law and was corroborated by the citizens at the scene. That's my whole point. Everything everyone at the scene has said provides no justification for the arrest. You want to make up justification using your imagination.

Seriously though, I really would like for someone to ask the question; "What, in Professor Gates' actions, cons uted disorderly conduct." I would seriously like to hear the answer to that question.

Seriously, if it is a matter of police integrity, they already would have set the record straight. I believe the police have actually stated their reasons for arresting Gates -- they just weren't good enough reasons to satisfy the law. Your imaginary reasons may be, but no one said any of that happened.

[jack sommerset]

What indication was there that he would hurt anybody?That's what police should do

He followed the cop after the cop told him to stop. Gates did not stop and kept calling him a racist then he talked about the cops mamma. I think u said he had a cane.

They shouldn't throw people in jail for embarrassing them in front of other cops

Please share with the rest of ur s how you know this.

For the last time, you can't have sex with me. You need to take out a personal ad if you need to keep it on the down low.

Who is dreaming? I never ask or implied or would do a dude...Liar Liar Pants on fire,

That isn't against the law.

It shows who was being irrational. And that would be Gates.

[ChumpDumper]

He followed the cop after the cop told him to stop. Gates did not stop and kept calling him a racist then he talked about the cops mamma. I think u said he had a cane.

That's not against the law.

Please share with the rest of ur s how you know this.

I can only speculate, since there was no legal justification for the arrest given what the cops and witnesses said took place.

Who is dreaming? I never ask or implied or would do a dude...Liar Liar Pants on fire,

You ask for it every time you bring up gay sex, which is all the time. So again, I must refuse your advances. Someday your prince will come -- over your back I suppose.

It shows who was being irrational. And that would be Gates.

That's not against the law.

[jack sommerset]

That's not against the law.

I can only speculate, since there was no legal justification for the arrest given what the cops and witnesses said took place.

You ask for it every time you bring up gay sex, which is all the time. So again, I must refuse your advances. Someday your prince will come -- over your back I suppose.

That's not against the law.

It backs the cops story Gates was disturbing the peace. And Yes disturbing the peace is breaking the law. The guy following him out the door making fun of his mamma and calling him a racist could escalate into violence but he was arrested for disturbing the peace and should have been. I say this because you keep saying it was a stupid arrest. I say nope, the cop had every right to arrest him and it appears the guy was leaning towards violence acting in that crazy way. HAHAHA The cop was there to serve and protect only to be chased out the dudes house.

...I know you know all this. Good night..........

[ChumpDumper]

It backs the cops story Gates was disturbing the peace. And Yes disturbing the peace is breaking the law.

Nothing the cops said he did broke the law.

The guy following him out the door making fun of his mamma and calling him a racist could escalate into violence but he was arrested for disturbing the peace and should have been.

That wasn't against the law.

I say this because you keep saying it was a stupid arrest.

It was.

I say nope, the cop had every right to arrest him

Not according to what they said Gates did.

and it appears the guy was leaning towards violence acting in that crazy way.

There is nothing in the police report or statements or in those of the witnesses that suggest anything like that. You simply made it up.

HAHAHA The cop was there to serve and protect only to be chased out the dudes house.

The cop said he exited the house because he couldn't hear his radio. He was not chased.

...I know you know all this. Good night..........

I know you are into men. You need to accept that and be the sexual you know you need to be. Good night.

[Yonivore]

Nothing the cops said he did broke the law.

The report said he committed the crime of disorderly conduct. He was arrested for disorderly conduct. I would say the cops spoke pretty loudly on the fact he broke the law.

[Wild Cobra]

Anyone gag on a hop pellet yet?

[ChumpDumper]

The report said he committed the crime of disorderly conduct.

Nothing they said he did was against Massachusetts law. You are only left with acts Gates committed in your imagination alone.

[Yonivore]

3 amigos get suds; she gets scorn


I don't think this is over for Obama , yet.

[Yonivore]

Nothing they said he did was against Massachusetts law. You are only left with acts Gates committed in your imagination alone.

Well, by the way the report read, his conduct met the elements of disorderly conduct; including tumultuous behavior and all.

[Spursmania]

Well, if Gates was truly wronged as he may believe, then he will file a civil lawsuit.The verdict in and of itself would say a lot. A preponderance of the evidence is all you need in civil suits. My money is on the police department.

[ChumpDumper]

Well, by the way the report read, his conduct met the elements of disorderly conduct; including tumultuous behavior and all.

What tumultuous behavior?

[Wild Cobra]

Nothing they said he did was against Massachusetts law. You are only left with acts Gates committed in your imagination alone.

He's the only one laid up and has nothing better to do than amuse himself with your asinine hard hardheadedness. I think most of us have better things to do than mess with your idiocy. I know I do.

[ChumpDumper]

Well, if Gates was truly wronged as he may believe, then he will file a civil lawsuit.The verdict in and of itself would say a lot. A preponderance of the evidence is all you need in civil suits. My money is on the police department.

I'm not even sure if it could even reach the courts, given the facts. The cops could certainly claim to be ignorant of the finer points of the law as Yoni has proven over and over again.

[ChumpDumper]

He's the only one laid up and has nothing better to do than amuse himself with your asinine hard hardheadedness. I think most of us have better things to do than mess with your idiocy. I know I do.

Then off, flaglot.

[Spursmania]

Yeah, Gates was just so wronged. Poor guy. The Police department should have been so much nicer to him, and when he started yelling, they should have just give him some apple juice and sung "hush little baby don't you cry."

Give me a ing break...

[Yonivore]

What tumultuous behavior?

Somebody should ask. But, until they do, you are no more informed about what happened than I am.

Look, we choose to believe two different things...why are you so tedious and willing to rehash the same argument?

[ChumpDumper]

Yeah, Gates was just so wronged. Poor guy. The Police department should have been so much nicer to him, and when he started yelling, they should have just give him some apple juice and sung "hush little baby don't you cry."

Give me a ing break...

He shouldn't have been thrown in jail for yelling at the police from his porch. It's not against the law.

[Wild Cobra]

Then off, flaglot.

Wow... I'm surprised that took you so long!

[ChumpDumper]

Somebody should ask. But, until they do, you are no more informed about what happened than I am.

Which is why you have to imagine Gates did something to warrant his arrest. The facts that are known don't support you, so you ahve to make up.

Look, we choose to believe two different things...why are you so tedious and willing to rehash the same argument?

As long as you keep making up , I'll just keep giving you the facts.