You know what Im thinking?
Im thinking half these posters are kids who were too young to even remember how unblievable Pippen was in the 90s.
Fantastic athlete. Unbelievable basketball IQ. Great defender. Very fluid.
One of the best ever. LMAO at "Bill Walton", "Jason Kidd", "Clyde Drexler", "Patrick Ewing", and half the players from the 60s who were playing against a bunch of white stiffs.
it's really close beetween these two. I'd take Hondo because he was very clutch, which was never Pippen's forte.
Huh? Jason Terry comes off the bench and he averaged more minutes than Josh Howard last season.
I'm too young to remember him (as you would know), I'm just blindly defending him cause it's not fair how ordinary people think he was just cause he wasn't able to put up great offensive stats when he played on the same team as the greatest player of all time.
Pippen vs. Havlicek one on one, who wins?
Bill Walton didn't play in the 60's, and for his first few years in the league he put up some good numbers.
Additionally, I think Pippen was a great player. I'm just putting it out there to see if we can name 50 better players.
Tough to say... but it'd probably take them 3 hours to win a game to 21. They both were great defenders.
This was an idea brought up in the Kobe vs MJ thread...
Can this board name 50 players better than Pippen?
I'll start off with some easy ones:
1) Michael Jordan
2) Magic Johnson
3) Larry Bird
4) Bill Russell
5) Wilt Chamberlain
6) Shaquille O' Neal
7) Kobe Bryant
8) Jerry West - FALSE!
9) Bob Cousy - FALSE!
10) Hakeem Olajuwon
11) Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
12) John Havlicek - FALSE!
13) Rick Barry - FALSE!
14) Tim Duncan
15) Karl Malone
16) John Stockton - FALSE!
17) Julius Erving
18) George Gervin - FALSE!
19) David Robinson - FALSE!
20) Oscar Robertson - FALSE!
21) George Mikan - FALSE! Are you ig kidding me?
22) Elgin Baylor
23) Kevin McHale - FALSE!
24) Pete Maravich - FALSE!
25) Nate Archibald - FALSE!
26) Bill Walton - FALSE!
26 and counting... I'll put disputed names near the bottom of the list.
This list is pathetic. However, I think LeBron probably needs to be on there.
If they were going to 11 by 1's, Havlicek would be lucky to score 4.
West is clearly better
I'd love to see Havlicek's defense if he had to guard the players Pippen did.
I didnt say he played in the 60s.
I think you are confused. What I was saying was the players that I listed IN ADDITION to half those players from the 60s couldnt touch Pippen.
Comparing George Mikan and Jerry West and Oscar Robertson to Scottie Pippen is like comparing an English Spitfire to an F-14.
Last edited by da_suns_fan; 08-03-2009 at 03:36 PM.
For the era he was in, George Mikan was a heck of a player. Jerry West would be an amazing player TODAY. He averaged 27 PPG, 5.8 RPG, and 6.7 APG, plus he was clutch. Stockton is the all-time assists leader (and steals I believe as well). Kevin McHale was a beast.
And yet, you'd put LEBRON on there? After how many years in the league, and no rings yet?
Here's the thing both guys were like point forwards out there. Both guys are arguably the top two defenders at the small forward position ever. But Hondo in time was the number one scoring option for the Celtics.
And Hondo was really clutch compared to Pippen.
Yeah so? you're not refuting my point with that comment.
vs.
I certainly know who'd get picked before the other in a pickup game
Yeah he did. You're under some idiotic misconception that coming off the bench limits the minutes you can play.
Have any of you guys watched the old games? The game is different, but some of those players from the 60's could hold their own with players today. The biggest difference is that players today are much stronger and athletic than in the 60's. Players from the 50's and 60's had equal 'skill' compared to the majority of today's players though.
A question like "Could Havlicek defend Pippen?" is impossible to determine one way or another... no one could really answer it. given that they were both recognized as some of the best defenders of their days, I'm inclined to say they could both defend each other.
The biggest change in the NBA is the increased strength of players... that wouldn't factor in as much for a Havlicek/Pippen matchup, I think.
DAF, I was looking at Manu's splits, and yeah he averages more minutes when he starts, but his FG% is a lot better coming off the bench which results in very similar stats.
Well they both have six rings, so I guess if we're looking for an inane way to compare players, we should go by styles of the time they played in.
I certainly know who'd get picked before the other in a pickup game
Well they both have six rings, so I guess if we're looking for an inane way to compare players, we should go by styles of the time they played in.
My post was just a joke.
I know... hence my smiley face
He averages more points per game shooting at a lower percent when he starts, simply 'cause he plays more minutes. I think my point is made.
Robinson>>Pippen.
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